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Derrick Rose Superthread, Update: Not playing much in the 4th quarters of late.

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sholditch2 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:00 PM Post #1
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 23-October 08 Member No.: 20,855	I really think this kid is going to rock as a rookie. I'm sure the TOs will be high, and the %s low, but make no mistake, this kid can ball and is the most promising #1 pick since Dwight Howard. He is going to be dropping dimes in bunches all year long, and can score as well. People, we could be looking at the next Chris Paul. -------------------- h2h, 9 cat with 3pt% and a/t ratio, start nba five+util PG: Rose, Duhon, Nate Robinson, SG: JoeJ(pg), Maggette, Miller SF: Salmons, Jason Thompson PF: Gooden(C), Haslem(C), C: Camby, Lopez, Turiaf

NUPE_1911 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:02 PM Post #2
Allstar Group: Established Members Posts: 881 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Washington D.C. by way of Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 10,174	QUOTE (sholditch2 @ Oct 28 2008, 02:00 PM) I really think this kid is going to rock as a rookie. I'm sure the TOs will be high, and the %s low, but make no mistake, this kid can ball and is the most promising #1 pick since Dwight Howard. He is going to be dropping dimes in bunches all year long, and can score as well. People, we could be looking at the next Chris Paul. Rose is not even the best player in his draft class let alone the most promising #1 since whenever. -------------------- 09-10 12 Cat. (Standard 9 cats + FTM, 3PT% & FGM) Fantasy Team: D. Wade G. Wallace Jason Richardson Ray Allen Al. Horford E. Oakafor T.J. Ford J.R. Smith Mario Chalmers Marc Gasol C. Landry Mike Conley Danilo Gallinari

EsTiLO View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:11 PM Post #3
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 1,046 Joined: 7-May 08 From: New Jersey Member No.: 16,837	This year , Rose will be a good real life player but not a really good fantasy player Hmm I can see him putting a line of 15 ppg 47 fg% 5 apg 0.7 spg . That's a Tony Parker / Andre Miller line. He'll be fun to watch though if you catch a Bulls game... This post has been edited by EsTiLO: Oct 28 2008, 01:12 PM

bballshinobi View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:28 PM Post #4
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 4-February 07 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 43	I think your prediction is about right - except the steals. A guy with his speed and quickness will probably average about 1.4-1.7 steals. -------------------- 10 Team League: Standard 9 cat + FTM + 3PT% PG: Leandro Barbosa SG: Kevin Martin G: Michael Redd SF: Danny Granger PF: Amare Stoudemire F: Dirk Nowitzki C: Andrew Bynum C: Chris Kaman Util: Jason Terry Util: Corey Maggette Bn: Jamal Crawford Bn: Carlos Boozer Bn: JR Smith

Denbo32 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:31 PM Post #5
Hall of Famer Group: Established Members Posts: 5,765 Joined: 16-April 07 From: Brooklyn, Member No.: 1,754	If he could repeat durant numbers last year with assists instead of rebounds it would be pretty good. -------------------- 12 team 9 Cat H2H Money league PG - Billups - Ellis SG - Granger - Battier SF - Ariza - G. Wallace PF - Aldridge - T. Thomas C - Camby - C. Andersen Bench - E. Gordon - Love - Haywood Rotoworld League 12 team 9 cat Roto PG - Billups - Westbrook SG - A. Parker - R. Brewer SF - J. Smith - Melo - Turkoglu PF - Dirk C - Duncan - J. Oneal Bench - Redd - Bogut - R. Bell

acton_00 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:35 PM Post #6
Allstar Group: Established Members Posts: 792 Joined: 6-February 07 Member No.: 185	QUOTE (EsTiLO @ Oct 28 2008, 02:11 PM) This year , Rose will be a good real life player but not a really good fantasy player Hmm I can see him putting a line of 15 ppg 47 fg% 5 apg 0.7 spg . That's a Tony Parker / Andre Miller line. He'll be fun to watch though if you catch a Bulls game... yep.. actually i'd be happy with those numbers. i'd say closer to 13 ppg.... i don't know what to make of his stls...he averaged about 1.3 in college, but got just 2 all preseason... This post has been edited by acton_00: Oct 28 2008, 01:37 PM

MustacheToes View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:40 PM Post #7
All-Time Great Group: Moderators Posts: 19,432 Joined: 7-February 07 Member No.: 273	QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Oct 28 2008, 02:31 PM) If he could repeat durant numbers last year with assists instead of rebounds it would be pretty good. He isn't that kind of scoring threat. I don't see him averaging more then 15 PPG this year. I am extremely excited to see him and Sefolosha in the starting backcourt today. Unfortunately, that doesn't go well for the Bulls chances. I was one of the few idiots who believe Hinrich had a rebound season in him, along with the rest of the Bulls team.

joedog1010 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 01:48 PM Post #8
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 403 Joined: 23-May 07 From: Chicago, IL Member No.: 2,750	QUOTE (NUPE_1911 @ Oct 28 2008, 01:02 PM) Rose is not even the best player in his draft class. Hmmm - Care to expand on that? --------------------

monkeyzonSteroid... monkeyzonSteroids View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 02:02 PM Post #9
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 2,731 Joined: 5-May 08 From: Seattle Member No.: 16,805	QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Oct 28 2008, 11:31 AM) If he could repeat durant numbers last year with assists instead of rebounds it would be pretty good. what? this makes no sense. They are 2 different players playing 2 different positions. Rose wont get the threes, blocks, points, reb, ft% like durant. I see 13.3/3.6reb/5.2assists/2.8TO/1.1stls/45.5%/73% or so.

sholditch2 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 02:54 PM Post #10
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 23-October 08 Member No.: 20,855	You guys are way off: 23 ppg, 3 rpg, 9 apg, 45%fg, 75%ft, 35% 3pt, 2 spg, 3 topg ROY and MVP as leads Bulls over the Lakers in the finals. Mark it. -------------------- h2h, 9 cat with 3pt% and a/t ratio, start nba five+util PG: Rose, Duhon, Nate Robinson, SG: JoeJ(pg), Maggette, Miller SF: Salmons, Jason Thompson PF: Gooden(C), Haslem(C), C: Camby, Lopez, Turiaf

Irish View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:40 PM Post #11
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 3,254 Joined: 31-October 07 Member No.: 10,394	QUOTE (sholditch2 @ Oct 28 2008, 03:54 PM) You guys are way off: 23 ppg, 3 rpg, 9 apg, 45%fg, 75%ft, 35% 3pt, 2 spg, 3 topg ROY and MVP as leads Bulls over the Lakers in the finals. Mark it. That's nowhere near accurate, but I am high on him and grabbed him in the ninth round of my draft. He has been blowing up in the preseason and is the starter. He reminds me of Paul from a few years ago, but a better scorer/weaker defender. I think he has the most rookie upside by far. Rather him then "I only get Points and Boards" Beasley.

NUPE_1911 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:42 PM Post #12
Allstar Group: Established Members Posts: 881 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Washington D.C. by way of Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 10,174	QUOTE (joedog1010 @ Oct 28 2008, 02:48 PM) Hmmm - Care to expand on that? Beasley is better. -------------------- 09-10 12 Cat. (Standard 9 cats + FTM, 3PT% & FGM) Fantasy Team: D. Wade G. Wallace Jason Richardson Ray Allen Al. Horford E. Oakafor T.J. Ford J.R. Smith Mario Chalmers Marc Gasol C. Landry Mike Conley Danilo Gallinari

NUPE_1911 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:43 PM Post #13
Allstar Group: Established Members Posts: 881 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Washington D.C. by way of Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 10,174	QUOTE (sholditch2 @ Oct 28 2008, 03:54 PM) You guys are way off: 23 ppg, 3 rpg, 9 apg, 45%fg, 75%ft, 35% 3pt, 2 spg, 3 topg ROY and MVP as leads Bulls over the Lakers in the finals. Mark it. -------------------- 09-10 12 Cat. (Standard 9 cats + FTM, 3PT% & FGM) Fantasy Team: D. Wade G. Wallace Jason Richardson Ray Allen Al. Horford E. Oakafor T.J. Ford J.R. Smith Mario Chalmers Marc Gasol C. Landry Mike Conley Danilo Gallinari

MustacheToes View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:47 PM Post #14
All-Time Great Group: Moderators Posts: 19,432 Joined: 7-February 07 Member No.: 273	QUOTE (NUPE_1911 @ Oct 28 2008, 04:42 PM) Beasley is better. I think it's a little early to say who is better. I mean, they haven't even played 10 preseeason games let alone a real game. Keep in mind, the Heat were the ones who seriously considered trading out of that spot since they were not on Beasley.

sholditch2 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:52 PM Post #15
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 23-October 08 Member No.: 20,855	sarcasm meters down? -------------------- h2h, 9 cat with 3pt% and a/t ratio, start nba five+util PG: Rose, Duhon, Nate Robinson, SG: JoeJ(pg), Maggette, Miller SF: Salmons, Jason Thompson PF: Gooden(C), Haslem(C), C: Camby, Lopez, Turiaf

Jared_03 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:56 PM Post #16
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 437 Joined: 4-February 08 Member No.: 15,137	Is it really on WGN, wasn't listed last I checked..........thanks!

sholditch2 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 03:57 PM Post #17
Veteran Group: Members Posts: 343 Joined: 23-October 08 Member No.: 20,855	i actually didn't put that there. no idea -------------------- h2h, 9 cat with 3pt% and a/t ratio, start nba five+util PG: Rose, Duhon, Nate Robinson, SG: JoeJ(pg), Maggette, Miller SF: Salmons, Jason Thompson PF: Gooden(C), Haslem(C), C: Camby, Lopez, Turiaf

NUPE_1911 View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 04:10 PM Post #18
Allstar Group: Established Members Posts: 881 Joined: 28-October 07 From: Washington D.C. by way of Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 10,174	QUOTE (MustacheToes @ Oct 28 2008, 04:47 PM) I think it's a little early to say who is better. I mean, they haven't even played 10 preseeason games let alone a real game. Keep in mind, the Heat were the ones who seriously considered trading out of that spot since they were not on Beasley. I'll stand by my statement. If I am wrong then I will glady eat crow -------------------- 09-10 12 Cat. (Standard 9 cats + FTM, 3PT% & FGM) Fantasy Team: D. Wade G. Wallace Jason Richardson Ray Allen Al. Horford E. Oakafor T.J. Ford J.R. Smith Mario Chalmers Marc Gasol C. Landry Mike Conley Danilo Gallinari

bballshinobi View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 04:38 PM Post #19
Superstar Group: Established Members Posts: 1,366 Joined: 4-February 07 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 43	Beasley = Derrick Coleman's skill set in Glen Robinson's body Derrick Rose = Steve Francis' athelticism & skills + Jason Kidd's brains -------------------- 10 Team League: Standard 9 cat + FTM + 3PT% PG: Leandro Barbosa SG: Kevin Martin G: Michael Redd SF: Danny Granger PF: Amare Stoudemire F: Dirk Nowitzki C: Andrew Bynum C: Chris Kaman Util: Jason Terry Util: Corey Maggette Bn: Jamal Crawford Bn: Carlos Boozer Bn: JR Smith

Irish View Member Profile	Oct 28 2008, 06:07 PM Post #20
On the Ballot Group: Established Members Posts: 3,254 Joined: 31-October 07 Member No.: 10,394	Fantasy wise and reality wise Rose will be the valuable player by far 5 years from now. I'm not even a fan of either guy, but Rose's skillset is much more valuable to a team and fantasy owner.

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