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Pat Venditteambidextrous pitcher


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#1 elemenohpee

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 01:45 PM

in case you haven't already heard about this guy...here's a clip on youtube on what this guy does...



I think every single pitcher has had dreams about being able to do that!!!
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#2 Gargz

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 01:54 PM

i read about this cat last yr. very interesting talent, but i cant see him making it to the bigs. by all accounts his stuff kinda sucks from both sides (although i think i saw a nice little splittter from the right side). i guess he could maybe make it as a trick pitcher out of the bullpen, kinda like a sidewinder or submarine pitcher. other than that hes just an anomaly who prolly wont make it.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 02:11 PM

thats some jerky motion from the left side... crazy to think he could blow out his elbow have tommy john and pitch the week after surgery
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 04:07 PM

It didn't sound or look like he had dominating stuff from either side. I don't think he'll make it. It's a great story, though.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 08:40 PM

He only throws high 80's righty and high 70's lefty.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 08:44 PM

Always wondered why more pitchers dont attempt this.  Would come in handy...
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 08:44 PM

Wow, very cool...
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 08:59 PM

its prolly the most obscure baseball rule ever, but can a pitcher switch up during an at bat? the batter can so i dont see why not.
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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:02 PM

That guy would get blown up in the bigs, but it's a fun novelty for high A ball, if he were to get drafted.

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Posted 07 June 2007 - 09:14 PM

View PostGargz, on Jun 7 2007, 06:59 PM, said:

its prolly the most obscure baseball rule ever, but can a pitcher switch up during an at bat? the batter can so i dont see why not.


He has to declare which arm to use before the at-bat begins and cannot change until the next hitter.

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 03:17 PM

Have you heard of this guy Pat Venditte?  He's a Yankees minor league pitcher who can throw from both the left and right.

This is great.  There is video on USA today under MLB section that you can find here:  http://usatoday.feedroom.com/  

I wish I could post the direct link but its not available.  

Enjoy!

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 03:27 PM

That video is old.  

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 04:27 PM

View PostXue, on May 5 2008, 04:27 PM, said:

That video is old.  

Greg Harris did also.  http://www.baseballl...reg_Harris_1955

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 04:32 PM

He actually didn't sign with the Yankees, and he will be in this year's draft as well.   Probably nothing more than someone who is a career minor league player,  but always fun to see.

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 04:37 PM

That glove is amazing
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Posted 05 May 2008 - 04:51 PM

I can actually throw ambidextrously,  but I can't get the ball to break from the left side,  it just stays straight unless I loop it like a softball pitch.  

This still doesn't really help with switch hitters, because I think by MLB rules,  the pitcher has to establish what side he is pitching from before the batter does I believe.

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 04:55 PM

View Postgringo2112, on May 5 2008, 02:27 PM, said:


Tim Kurkjian writes a chapter about ambidexterity in his book Is This a Great Game, or What?.  I have not read it, but read reviews on it and he mentions there have been four ambidextrous pitchers in MLB history.  In addition, Victor Martinez can throw 75 MPH left-handed.

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Posted 05 May 2008 - 06:14 PM

Should allow him to have a longer career.  If he blows out his right elbow, he can then throw lefty, or vice versa.
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Posted 04 September 2008 - 10:33 PM

Interviewed Pat Venditte the other night when his Staten Island Yankees were in Aberdeen to play the Aberdeen. It's a Q&A and I probably won't run it for about two weeks - column is twice weekly and I've got LaPorta and Austin Jackson ahead of him on the pecking order - but what the heck, for anyone who's interested:

Q: What was your reaction when you learned you'd been drafted by the Yankees? Did you know in advance that they were looking to pick you? A: No, I didn't have too much contact with them throughout the year. A few days before the draft they called me, and I was kind of surprised, but I'm very grateful to be with them now.

Q: Growing up, did your coaches encourage your switch-pitching, or did you sometimes face resistance?

A: There was no resistance growing up, and I was very fortunate to have that. My coaches were very supportive all the way throughout.

Q: Most switch-hitters are stronger from one side than the other. Is that the case for you on the mound?

A: You know, I am stronger from my right side. I throw fairly harder, and because of that I have to rely more on locating my fastball and especially locating my off-speed pitches from the left side.

Q: Could you talk about the different pitches you throw and how you like to use them? And does the arm you're throwing with affect that?

A: From the right side I throw over the top all the time with a fastball, curveball and occasional changeup. From the left I drop down to a sidearm angle and predominantly throw sliders. I've just been sticking with that and you know, occasionally I'll go to a fastball, but it's predominantly sliders from the left side.

Q: How did you find a glove you could use on either hand? They don't sell those at Modell's.

A: (Laughs) My dad faxed the Mizuno company when I was seven. He had traced my hand and he just faxed the imprint of my hand over there, and two or three months later I had a glove.

Q: To what do you attribute your immediate success as a pro?

A: I've been keeping the ball down in the zone. I've been very fortunate so far; it's been a good season so far, but we've still got a couple weeks left here and a lot more work to do.

Q: Any plans for fall ball or winter ball?

A: No, I've got to go back to finish school. I've got my homework here already, so yeah, classes have already started and I've got 18 more credit hours to graduate, so I'll be done in December.

Q: How soon do you think you'll be ready to help the Yankees?

A: (Laughs) That's a ways off. I've got a lot of work to do. We'll see what happens.
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Posted 05 September 2008 - 10:09 AM

View PostThe King Maker, on May 5 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

I can actually throw ambidextrously, but I can't get the ball to break from the left side, it just stays straight unless I loop it like a softball pitch.

This still doesn't really help with switch hitters, because I think by MLB rules, the pitcher has to establish what side he is pitching from before the batter does I believe.


this came up in a game.  they decided that the pitcher can declare last.

edit: obviously in an MILB game...not sure the MLB rules

Edited by Shamrocks, 05 September 2008 - 10:10 AM.

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