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#1 phillies2626

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 11:07 PM

any word on how fast this kid will move up in the system?
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:37 AM

Since there hasn't been an update since 2009, here we go:

2010
He spent all season in the Sally League where pitched to the tune of 3.99 ERA through 21 Games and a 70/38 K/BB ratio over 58.2 IP.

He began the year as a starter, throwing 8 games with less than stellar results. He ended those 8 games with a 5.21 ERA and 1.45 WHIP over 27.2 IP. The lone bright side was his K/BB ratio of 36/17, but he did show a ton of promise. He had three lights-out games where he combined for 15.2 IP, 0.00 ERA, 0.96 WHIP and 20/7 K/BB.

He then transitioned to a relief role for 8 games: 9 IP, 2.00 ERA, 1.56 WHIP, 9/8 K/BB

Finally he ended the year as a starter for 5 more games going 22 IP with 3.27 ERA, 1.41 WHIP and 25/13 K/BB

Overall it was an okay season for the 20 yr old, but there was definitely room for improvement, as shown by his .320 BABIP and 3.11 FIP

2011
Currently Wheeler is in the hitter-friendly California League as a full-time starter. Results thus far are much improved over his rookie season.

His ERA, WHIP and BB/9 have all been lowered (3.70 / 1.25 / 4.62, respectively) while simultaneously increasing his K/9 (11.47). His K/BB is at 62/25 over 48.2 IP.

For an in-depth scouting report on him, Adam Foster from Project Prospect wrote one on 5/23. You can find it here: http://projectprospe...scouting-report

Basically this kid sounds like the next great Giants starting pitcher in the same mold as a younger version of Tim Lincecum
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Posted 10 June 2011 - 08:42 AM

Eric Surkamp will get to the show faster a may surprise a lot of people by ending up as a more dominate pitcher than Wheeler.
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Posted 10 June 2011 - 02:36 PM

Eric Surkamp will get to the show faster a may surprise a lot of people by ending up as a more dominate pitcher than Wheeler.



Surkamp probably will get to the majors faster.... he's also three years older than Wheeler and at Double-A, while Wheeler is at High-A....
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 08:28 PM

Feels like it's a good time to bump his thread(maybe get it edited to note that he's with the Mets now)

Dude is dominating in AA this year. HAd another stellar outing today. 7 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 8 K's

He's got a 1.88 ERA on the year.

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Posted 31 May 2012 - 09:21 PM

Stats are good. Still relatively inexperienced though. High draft pick. The Mets have already emphasized that they are not rushing their young pitchers. I think Matt Harvey will be up before Wheeler. He is in AAA and is the Mets #2 overall prospect.
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Posted 31 May 2012 - 10:09 PM

Smoking hot right now. Would love to see him get called up this year.
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:07 PM

Smoking hot right now. Would love to see him get called up this year.


you are insane and this will not happen. the mets will take their sweet time with wheeler. people are now calling him a future ace.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:15 PM

He gave up 3 ER in 6 IP today. The first time all year he's allowed more than 2 ER. Looks like he's slacking off now
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Posted 14 June 2012 - 01:23 PM

Sandy Alderson was on WFAN here in NY today and said Wheeler and Harvey are not close to the big leagues, but Wheeler will be promoted to AAA in short time
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

Fat Frank has a setback, Parnell has a large WHIP for a closer. Would the Mets consider using Wheeler ala David Price or Adam Wainwright back in the day...out of the pen? Wheeler has about 50-60 innings left based on a 30-40 increase over last year. I would consider it if I were the Mets brass. He's the type of SP who can max out near 100 (something he can't does a SP). Might be able to get some use out of him down the stretch while limiting his innings.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 08:32 PM

Well, there was this

Mets manager Terry Collins confirmed Zack Wheeler is "not out of the mix" for a promotion to the majors this season.
Matt Harvey and Miguel Batista remain the likeliest options to replace Dillon Gee (shoulder) in the short-term, but Wheeler will be considered "very soon," according to Collins. The 21-year-old right-hander has a 2.62 ERA in 15 starts at Double-A Binghamton, and could become a factor in the second half of the season.


And well, he just finished off a CGSHO today in AA
9 IP, 6 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 7 K
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Posted 14 July 2012 - 10:38 PM

We should change the Team in the name of this thread, SF to NYM.

Edited by The Harsh, 14 July 2012 - 11:35 PM.
Good call; done.


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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:44 PM

From RW:


Adam Rubin of ESPN New York hears that prospect right-hander Zack Wheeler could be promoted to Triple-A Buffalo as soon as next week.
The promotion has been a foregone conclusion for a while now and now that Matt Harvey is up in the big leagues, it's just a matter of when. Wheeler, 22, has a 3.29 ERA and 106/39 K/BB ratio over 109 1/3 innings in 18 starts at the Double-A level this year. Baseball America recently ranked him as the game's 10th best prospect on their midseason list.

Source: ESPNNewYork.com

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Posted 27 July 2012 - 09:50 PM

From RW:


Adam Rubin of ESPN New York hears that prospect right-hander Zack Wheeler could be promoted to Triple-A Buffalo as soon as next week.
The promotion has been a foregone conclusion for a while now and now that Matt Harvey is up in the big leagues, it's just a matter of when. Wheeler, 22, has a 3.29 ERA and 106/39 K/BB ratio over 109 1/3 innings in 18 starts at the Double-A level this year. Baseball America recently ranked him as the game's 10th best prospect on their midseason list.

Source: ESPNNewYork.com

On the same track as Harvey only Wheeler has better control.
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:06 PM

Don't know a whole lot about super 2, etc...but found this article (From metsblog.com) very interesting

Regarding Marcum's latest injury update, they wrote....

"In any case, I don’t see the Mets promoting Zack Wheeler to fill-in for Marcum. He’s close but needs more time at Triple-A, and promoting him now (as opposed to after the 20th day of the season)
would start his free-agent clock, and the Mets would lose a year of his control as a result."

I take this as Wheeler's clock being pushed back much sooner than I thought originally...I read somewhere online that the super 2 status date was some time in June, but 20 days into the season is clearly
a lot earlier than that...just an FYI...with the Mets rash of injuries (especially Johan and Marcum currently), this kid may be up sooner than later...at least I hope so...for real life and fantasy purposes both!
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 08:24 PM

further explanation from the reporter at metsblog.com who just helped me understand what he was reporting...

"A player accrues 1 year of service time if he's on the roster for 172 days. A player also accrues service time (cont)

if he's optioned to the minors for less than 20 days. So, if the Mets option Zack and call him up on day 21, he will (cont)

accrue less than 1 year of service time this year, thus gaining 1 extra year of control before he is eligible for free agency."
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:25 PM

further explanation from the reporter at metsblog.com who just helped me understand what he was reporting...

"A player accrues 1 year of service time if he's on the roster for 172 days. A player also accrues service time (cont)

if he's optioned to the minors for less than 20 days. So, if the Mets option Zack and call him up on day 21, he will (cont)

accrue less than 1 year of service time this year, thus gaining 1 extra year of control before he is eligible for free agency."


Then he gets Super 2'ed and the year counts as a full year anyways. Not sure their is a way around losing a year unless they wait till the super 2 passes, but doubt the Mets care 2 much about that. They just don't strike me as a team that will hold him back if he's ready
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:41 PM

Unless I am missing something, they would not lose a year of control if they wait for 20 days to pass...and I know the Mets; they aren't always logical!
Either way, excited for this kid to come up and pair with Harvey and Niese for a nice 1-2-3 punch for what could be years to come...with Syndergaard only a couple of years away!
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:11 PM

With super two status, the team doesn't lose a year of control but they do give up an extra year of arbitration. After the 20 days, the Mets insure the extra year of control, after the super-2 cutoff (mid season sometime I think?) they only give up 3 years of arbitration rights instead of four.

I think this is the deal... Could an expert confirm this?
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