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> Buy Low & Sell High, who you got?
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:13 AM
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A few I can think of:


Buy low: J. Salmons, J. Thompson, Hawes, Calderon, C. Villanueva, J. Crawford, J. Kidd, K. Durant, Amare

Sell high: G. Arenas, C. Kaman, Melo (package for first rounder?)


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post Nov 3 2009, 11:20 AM
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After 3 games, you think people will sell low on their first rounders in durant / amare?

Gilbert/Melo is defintely sell high but nobody is going to give you their first rounder for melo if he never cracked top 20 before. Gilbert on the other hand was a top 10 pick during his prime years.



Lou william/Gallinari might be sell high.

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post Nov 3 2009, 11:23 AM
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sell high: gallinari, k martin, reddick

buy low: A jefferson, A iverson

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post Nov 3 2009, 11:24 AM
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i think i would sell high on Chris Kaman

I just dont trust him with his injuries and when Griffin comes back. However, this might be his year just like 2 years ago.
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:32 AM
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Sell High: Lamar Odom (gasol coming back makes me iffy on this guy), Kaman, Gallinari

Buy Low: Calderon, Milsap (this team is not winning with boozer in the line up n they will make a change very soon), and David West

You cant include any first rounder on either list because its a first round pick. You need a minimum of 4-5 weeks to decide a value on a guy of that caliber.
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE (XXmarko23 @ Nov 3 2009, 12:32 PM) *
Sell High: Lamar Odom (gasol coming back makes me iffy on this guy), Kaman, Gallinari

Buy Low: Calderon, Milsap (this team is not winning with boozer in the line up n they will make a change very soon), and David West

You cant include any first rounder on either list because its a first round pick. You need a minimum of 4-5 weeks to decide a value on a guy of that caliber.



I dont think you can sell Odom high at all. Everyone knows he's only starting because Gasol is out.


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post Nov 3 2009, 11:49 AM
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Sell high: Frye, Corey Brewer, J O'Neal, Kaman, Odom, Steve Nash (just a gut feeling that his back will bother him again this season).

Buy low: Al Jeff, Nate Robinson, Anthony Randolph, Stephen Jackson


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:00 PM
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I'm actually a buyer of Frye, J Oneal, Kaman, and Nash if any owner is selling.

If I can get Frye for 9th round value I would buy

O neal - 9th round value as well

Kaman I would trade 6th round value for

Nash - mid 2nd value is what I would offer for him.

Of course if you can sell them for much higher values you have too I wouldn't look to trade them just to trade them.


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:06 PM
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I'm curious why people have Carmelo in the sell high list. But, I've been confused about where people have his value so low to start the season. I was able to get him with the 32nd pick in a Yahoo draft, and Yahoo's rank on him seems to be in that range. He seems like he has top 15 numbers, though. What's the hang up people have with Carmelo?
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post Nov 3 2009, 12:08 PM
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QUOTE (Hibachi @ Nov 3 2009, 09:06 AM) *
I'm curious why people have Carmelo in the sell high list. But, I've been confused about where people have his value so low to start the season. I was able to get him with the 32nd pick in a Yahoo draft, and Yahoo's rank on him seems to be in that range. He seems like he has top 15 numbers, though. What's the hang up people have with Carmelo?


Yep, I've been asking the same question for the last two months. I think he's a victim of his own popularity, although people are going to tell you he's one dimensional.


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:27 PM
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Can't believe no one has mentioned Derrick Rose as a buy low. His draft position might have been a bit high, but does anyone really believe he isn't going to put up top 50 numbers.

Sell high
Nash (first round value? Take it)
Kaman (so many x factors plus a history of injuries)
Mayo (name one player that has had their best season playing next to AI. Eric Snow doesn't count.)
KMart (fragile, and doing way too much on that team)
Gallinari (although I doubt anyone will give you true high value for him. No one thinks he'll keep up this pace, but most think he'll cool off to a reasonably solid starter, which is probably his true value. Of course, there is a crazy Knicks fan in almost every league...)
Arenas (pretty sure his injuries are not a secret, but good luck)

Buy Low: Al Jeff (but only if you can buy very low. I'm guessing he'll still cost you low second round value and that's not low),
Durrant (yea, but someone might take Brandon Roy for him)
CP - (Usually, it takes a 1st and 2nd or 1st and high 3rd to buy him. If you could get him for Roy and Kaman, you would probably be advised to do so especially with Okafor back.)
CV (actually, I'd leave him alone. i don't think he's going to have that great a year.)
Salmons (the fg% has to go up)
Brand (I'm sure others disagree, but that makes him a really good candidate. He's almost putting up top 50 numbers right now)
Derrick Rose


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE (teamshameless @ Nov 3 2009, 12:27 PM) *
Can't believe no one has mentioned Derrick Rose as a buy low. His draft position might have been a bit high, but does anyone really believe he isn't going to put up top 50 numbers.

Sell high
Nash (first round value? Take it)
Kaman (so many x factors plus a history of injuries)
Mayo (name one player that has had their best season playing next to AI. Eric Snow doesn't count.)
KMart (fragile, and doing way too much on that team)
Gallinari (although I doubt anyone will give you true high value for him. No one thinks he'll keep up this pace, but most think he'll cool off to a reasonably solid starter, which is probably his true value. Of course, there is a crazy Knicks fan in almost every league...)
Arenas (pretty sure his injuries are not a secret, but good luck)

Buy Low: Al Jeff (but only if you can buy very low. I'm guessing he'll still cost you low second round value and that's not low),
Durrant (yea, but someone might take Brandon Roy for him)
CP - (Usually, it takes a 1st and 2nd or 1st and high 3rd to buy him. If you could get him for Roy and Kaman, you would probably be advised to do so especially with Okafor back.)
CV (actually, I'd leave him alone. i don't think he's going to have that great a year.)
Salmons (the fg% has to go up)
Brand (I'm sure others disagree, but that makes him a really good candidate. He's almost putting up top 50 numbers right now)
Derrick Rose


Rose, I HIGHLY he puts up top 50 numbers.


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:45 AM) *
Rose, I HIGHLY he puts up top 50 numbers.


Not sure what you mean.


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:49 PM
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err I meant to say I HIGHLY doubt he puts up top 50 numbers. Rose is overrated fantasy wise as of now.


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post Nov 3 2009, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (Denbo32 @ Nov 3 2009, 09:49 AM) *
err I meant to say I HIGHLY doubt he puts up top 50 numbers. Rose is overrated fantasy wise as of now.


OK, whatever you say. He was right there last season. he's a franchise player and he's shown a great deal of poise under under pressure. His injury is a concern, but if he is healthy, he'll be top 50. count it.


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post Nov 3 2009, 01:04 PM
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Sell high:

Marc Gasol - dude's averaging over 2 PPS, a ludicrous number.

Aaron Brooks, Louis Williams, Brandon Jennings - their values will decline significantly once their hot-shooting streaks end. Williams will fall the hardest, considering he's also at 7/1 Ast/TO right now, which is obviously unsustainable.


Buy low:

David West - 16/6 on 45% FG right now. LaMarcus Aldridge is another PF off to a slow start, and a little dinged up to boot. He might be available for an even lower price.

Chris Duhon - okay, his shooting sucks. But it doesn't 31% suck. The MPG are still there, despite the rumor that Douglas would threaten him. Devin Harris goes here too (32% FG), but will be harder to buy low on.

Andris Biedrins - we all know Nellie's a maniac. But even he is going to figure out one day that a guy shooting 89% deserves more than 4 shots a game.
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post Nov 3 2009, 01:07 PM
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I think he meant, rose can put up top 50 numbers
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QUOTE (teamshameless @ Nov 3 2009, 10:57 AM) *
OK, whatever you say. He was right there last season. he's a franchise player and he's shown a great deal of poise under under pressure. His injury is a concern, but if he is healthy, he'll be top 50. count it.


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Rose barely cracked the top 100 by totals last year. #95 in Yahoo, #94 in BBM.

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QUOTE (teamshameless @ Nov 3 2009, 12:57 PM) *
OK, whatever you say. He was right there last season. he's a franchise player and he's shown a great deal of poise under under pressure. His injury is a concern, but if he is healthy, he'll be top 50. count it.


How was he right there last season? do you see outside the top 100 as close to top 50?

I didn't know there a stat for poise under pressure and being a franchise player, because those aren't stats in my league.

Rose NEEDS to show some sort of 3 point game or steals to get into top 50 range. Maybe if he moved his shooting % to 55% but scoring 20 points and 8 assist which is both pretty decent bump up from last year isn't enough to push him into top 50 range.

Seriously what stats are you projecting to get him into top 50 range? Pretty much compare him to Tony parker years over the last 7 years. parker wasn't top 50 till last year(I'm not even sure if he cracked top 50 last year actually)

Lack of 3's and steals makes it very hard for Rose to crack the top 50.


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post Nov 3 2009, 01:13 PM
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Wasn't he ranked 50th for the last month of the season last year?? I'm not sure...


Either way it is a bold statement to say he cracks the top 50, I would be surprised if he did it.


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