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[Winky]

Someone needs to drug test this man... and quick!

Best QB in the NFL?

LO F'in L

Edited by Winky, 07 April 2012 - 06:35 PM.

[dzemens]

I see a real disconnect between where he values himself and where the Ravens likely do. Hes been a solid QB at times, never spectacular but he views himself and wants to be paid as a top 5 QB, something he is not. Hes the classic type of guy that a team would like to buy for what the team thinks hes worth and sell for what he thinks hes worth.

[nickalero99]

dzemens, on 07 April 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

I see a real disconnect between where he values himself and where the Ravens likely do. Hes been a solid QB at times, never spectacular but he views himself and wants to be paid as a top 5 QB, something he is not. Hes the classic type of guy that a team would like to buy for what the team thinks hes worth and sell for what he thinks hes worth.

I see a real disconnect between where he values himself and reality.  The guy is definitely not nearly as good as he thinks he is, if he thinks he has been elite.  He's shown flashes, but with solid targets and a good running game he really should be more consistent.  Better game manager than Mark Sanchez is a good distance away from elite.

[Maligator]

Eli Manning , August 18, 2011.

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Joe Flacco, April, 2012.

/watch?v=4WzyxybYEGM

[rraayy3]

Eli Manning, February 3, 2008

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Eli Manning, February 5, 2012

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Edited by rraayy3, 19 April 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Winky]

Maligator, on 19 April 2012 - 08:56 PM, said:

Joe Flacco, April, 2012.

/watch?v=4WzyxybYEGM

nicely played...

[Blu Exile]

Flacco just threw nearly 40 passes in a half of football for Almost 300 yards & 2 TD's. Contract year & the Ravens are basically giving him the same control the falcons are with Ryan. A lot of no huddle.

He doesn't have near the weapons as Ryan, but Flacco is completely under the radar. I might target him as my QB2.

[Mack's Ghost]

Flacco is gonna make me eat crow

[DocJ]

I've always thought Flacco was under-rated, however, I see this as just pre-season experimentation....on the Jags.

[Robrain]

Blu Exile, on 23 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Flacco just threw nearly 40 passes in a half of football for Almost 300 yards & 2 TD's. Contract year & the Ravens are basically giving him the same control the falcons are with Ryan. A lot of no huddle.

He doesn't have near the weapons as Ryan, but Flacco is completely under the radar. I might target him as my QB2.

The backup RB took a 48-yard TD to the house.  Take that away and it's more like 200 yards in a half.  While great, I expect that kind of volume mainly only during games against heavy-hitting offenses.  They pulled Ray Rice EXTREMELY early in this PRESEASON game.  A normal Ravens gameplan will feature a heavy dose of Ray Rice on the ground, cutting down Flacco's total pass attempts considerably.

This game is an illusion, don't treat it like a measurement of the Raven's actual offense for this year.

[swc88]

Robrain, on 23 August 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Blu Exile, on 23 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Flacco just threw nearly 40 passes in a half of football for Almost 300 yards & 2 TD's. Contract year & the Ravens are basically giving him the same control the falcons are with Ryan. A lot of no huddle.

He doesn't have near the weapons as Ryan, but Flacco is completely under the radar. I might target him as my QB2.

The backup RB took a 48-yard TD to the house.  Take that away and it's more like 200 yards in a half.  While great, I expect that kind of volume mainly only during games against heavy-hitting offenses.  They pulled Ray Rice EXTREMELY early in this PRESEASON game.  A normal Ravens gameplan will feature a heavy dose of Ray Rice on the ground, cutting down Flacco's total pass attempts considerably.

This game is an illusion, don't treat it like a measurement of the Raven's actual offense for this year.

Agreed.. the offense still runs through rice.. i do like an uptick in his passing attempts but he still threw 540 times last year and only threw for 3600 yards.. no way that number increases more than 580 attempts.  He MIGHT reach 4k yards but im thinking somewhere between 3,750 - 3,900

[Blu Exile]

Ravens have been doing this all preseason, it just wasn't very successful until tonight.

They've been without Pitta, Dickson, & T. Smirh. Tonight they got back T, SmIth & he looked like an unstoppable monster.

I'm sure a lot of it was the horrible Jags, but Flacco & Smith deserve some credit in there also. Both moved up my board after tonight.

[CurlyDumps]

They still have that terrible OC though, right?

[bravesfan4life]

Not too long ago Flacco and M. Ryan were neck and neck in fantasy drafts and now look at the seperation. Ryan is deserving of the hype with the weapons he has but I think we have been overlooking Flacco a litte too much. I see Flacco's season tied real close to the development of his new #1 receiver T. Smith who looked real good tonight.

[megamoviejohn]

Robrain, on 23 August 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Blu Exile, on 23 August 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

Flacco just threw nearly 40 passes in a half of football for Almost 300 yards & 2 TD's. Contract year & the Ravens are basically giving him the same control the falcons are with Ryan. A lot of no huddle.

He doesn't have near the weapons as Ryan, but Flacco is completely under the radar. I might target him as my QB2.

The backup RB took a 48-yard TD to the house.  Take that away and it's more like 200 yards in a half.  While great, I expect that kind of volume mainly only during games against heavy-hitting offenses.  They pulled Ray Rice EXTREMELY early in this PRESEASON game.  A normal Ravens gameplan will feature a heavy dose of Ray Rice on the ground, cutting down Flacco's total pass attempts considerably.

This game is an illusion, don't treat it like a measurement of the Raven's actual offense for this year.

Pretty much this, Bernard Pierce was finally able to play and they obviously wanted to see how he could do. I'd expect more from Flacco this year but still nothing like tonight.

[UVA_Drew]

CurlyDumps, on 23 August 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

They still have that terrible OC though, right?

Cam Cameron still is the OC, yes. But as a Ray Rice owner last year, I remember getting so pissed every game when they kept calling passing plays when they should've been running. So as a Flacco owner this year, I don't see that as a bad thing.

But the important message I want to get across is that Jim Caldwell is the Quarterbacks Coach now. The same Jim Caldwell who coached the Colts, and was the QB Coach under Gundy who ran the no huddle system with Peyton so perfectly (true 99.999% of that has to do with Peyton Manning). But he's being credited with this new no-huddle system that the Ravens are using, so I see it continuing in the regular season.

[93_Confirmed]

Flacco is looking stellar after a quarter of play. He's running the no-huddle flawlessly and carving up CIN. 11/160/1 so far. He's even giving Jacoby Jones value!

Edited by 93_Confirmed, 10 September 2012 - 07:00 PM.

[wilwin]

Bengals have banged up secondary?  Taylor Mays is horrible.  Temper expectations a little.  Flacco does look impressive though.

[M0cked]

Man... I have Torrey Smith and he's yet to get much throws... all going to Boldin and this Pitta guy...  Now I don't know who to trust...

[Giants4XChamps]

Arrow pointing up, I've been one of Flacco's biggest detractors but I have to say that he looks like a QB1 out there in that new-look Ravens no-huddle offense.