Will this guy finally unleash his talent this year? The Cowboys first drive last year made Dez look like he could be the #1 receiver and then from then on it was average at best. He is obviously one of the most talented receivers in football but his immaturity on and off the field is hurting him.
Does he take the next step and possibly become a Top 5 WR or will he continue to be one of the more frustrating fantasy players?
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Dez Bryant 2012 Season Outlook
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:13 PM
14 team Keeper(9 players) 10x10 Mixed
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:47 PM
i personally was happy w him last year and will be targeting him in all drafts this year. but im a believer so im biased.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:51 PM
If only we knew. Opportunity is there, Laurent is gone and he has all the talent in the world. But he seems to be the kinda guy who could find a way to mess things up just when he is about to become a the man. I think he makes a jump this year....top 12 type WR but can't say top 5.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:29 PM
breakout season imo
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:29 PM
upside WR2
all the talent in the world, but there is a reason he dropped to dallas and witten/austin keep him from being a top fantasy WR
all the talent in the world, but there is a reason he dropped to dallas and witten/austin keep him from being a top fantasy WR
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:42 PM
Like his upside a ton, but won't overpay at all.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:16 PM
As a miserable Dallas fan, as well as a Dez owner from last season, I'm going on the record:
This fool is
ALL SHOW
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NO GO.
This fool is
ALL SHOW
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NO GO.
QB: Ryan Leaf
RB: Lawrence Phillips
RB: Ki-Jana Carter
WR: Charles Rogers
WR: Desmond Howard
TE: David LaFleur
W/R: Darren McFadden
K: Ray Finkle(Einhorn)
D: Saints
BN: Andre Ware/Tony Mandarich/Curtis Enis/Travis Henry/Brian Bosworth/Assy Ice
RB: Lawrence Phillips
RB: Ki-Jana Carter
WR: Charles Rogers
WR: Desmond Howard
TE: David LaFleur
W/R: Darren McFadden
K: Ray Finkle(Einhorn)
D: Saints
BN: Andre Ware/Tony Mandarich/Curtis Enis/Travis Henry/Brian Bosworth/Assy Ice
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:10 AM
I am also a Dallas fan and I have watched Dez closely over the past couple years. It pains me to say but I dont think he will break out. This kid is too concerned with being a celebrity and less concerned with playing football.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:00 AM
It's really frustrating as both a fan and an owner because his potential is so high. I have him as a good value keeper and I just can't seem to let him go because I know when I do is the year he finally gets his act together. The worst part is that he can be how he is off the field if he put his time in on the field. There was no bigger showman and celebrity in the league than Neon Deion but when he got on the field he knew how to perform.
14 team Keeper(9 players) 10x10 Mixed
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:25 AM
So no one is buying this glimmer of hope out of Cowboys camp then?
http://cowboysblog.d...-bryants-h.html
At just 23, there's always a chance he matures and figures out what he needs to do to get to the next level. As a dynasty owner, I'm cautiously optimistic about the "working really, really hard to get better" part, but then again coachspeak in camp usually tends to be on the positive side. I was satisfied with Dez as my WR2 or 3 last year... I just wouldn't put faith in him as a #1 just yet. But the upside is definitely there...
http://cowboysblog.d...-bryants-h.html
At just 23, there's always a chance he matures and figures out what he needs to do to get to the next level. As a dynasty owner, I'm cautiously optimistic about the "working really, really hard to get better" part, but then again coachspeak in camp usually tends to be on the positive side. I was satisfied with Dez as my WR2 or 3 last year... I just wouldn't put faith in him as a #1 just yet. But the upside is definitely there...
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2011 and 2012 FFDL CHAMPION
QBs: Brees, Freeman, Kaepernick (Taxi)
RBs: Foster, F. Jackson, A. Morris, B. Tate, Wells, D. Wilson, D. Richardson, Ivory, B. Brown (Taxi)
WRs: Bowe, Dez Bryant, S. Smith (Car), Little, D. Moore, Shorts, D. Alexander
TEs: Daniels, M. Bennett
K: Bailey
D: Seahawks, Bengals
2011 and 2012 FFDL CHAMPION
QBs: Brees, Freeman, Kaepernick (Taxi)
RBs: Foster, F. Jackson, A. Morris, B. Tate, Wells, D. Wilson, D. Richardson, Ivory, B. Brown (Taxi)
WRs: Bowe, Dez Bryant, S. Smith (Car), Little, D. Moore, Shorts, D. Alexander
TEs: Daniels, M. Bennett
K: Bailey
D: Seahawks, Bengals
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:18 AM
He seems to have fallen from where he was being taken last year. I think if he's there late 4th/early 5th he's worth pulling the trigger around guys like VJax / DJax.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 04:28 PM
That game vs. NYJ was a microcosm of the Dez Bryant situation imo.
1. He flashes world class talent, making none other than Darrelle Revis look average, sending Cowboy fans and ff owners into orbit over the prospects of what may be.
2. He tweaks something--a quad in this case--and does so during a punt return, thanks to his idiot coaching staff.
3. Said idiot coaching staff leaves him on the field for the duration of the game, even though the injury has rendered him useless to his team.
4. He vanishes.
So even if he has matured and become a four quarter competitor--which I doubt with almost total certainty--his coaching staff will figure out a way to use or misuse him into the ground.
1. He flashes world class talent, making none other than Darrelle Revis look average, sending Cowboy fans and ff owners into orbit over the prospects of what may be.
2. He tweaks something--a quad in this case--and does so during a punt return, thanks to his idiot coaching staff.
3. Said idiot coaching staff leaves him on the field for the duration of the game, even though the injury has rendered him useless to his team.
4. He vanishes.
So even if he has matured and become a four quarter competitor--which I doubt with almost total certainty--his coaching staff will figure out a way to use or misuse him into the ground.
Edited by Proteus, 10 May 2012 - 04:30 PM.
QB: Ryan Leaf
RB: Lawrence Phillips
RB: Ki-Jana Carter
WR: Charles Rogers
WR: Desmond Howard
TE: David LaFleur
W/R: Darren McFadden
K: Ray Finkle(Einhorn)
D: Saints
BN: Andre Ware/Tony Mandarich/Curtis Enis/Travis Henry/Brian Bosworth/Assy Ice
RB: Lawrence Phillips
RB: Ki-Jana Carter
WR: Charles Rogers
WR: Desmond Howard
TE: David LaFleur
W/R: Darren McFadden
K: Ray Finkle(Einhorn)
D: Saints
BN: Andre Ware/Tony Mandarich/Curtis Enis/Travis Henry/Brian Bosworth/Assy Ice
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 05:35 PM
Cause everyone down on him....I'm BUYING! Hope he slips in drafts.
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QBs - Brady, Freeman
RBs - Ryan Mathews, Fred Jackson, Richardson, Hunter, Brown
WRs -Percy Harvin, Wayne, Colston, Shorts
TE - Hernandez, Pettigrew
D - Broncos D
K - Gostkowski
QBs - Brady, Freeman
RBs - Ryan Mathews, Fred Jackson, Richardson, Hunter, Brown
WRs -Percy Harvin, Wayne, Colston, Shorts
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:03 PM
Proteus, on 10 May 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:
That game vs. NYJ was a microcosm of the Dez Bryant situation imo.
1. He flashes world class talent, making none other than Darrelle Revis look average, sending Cowboy fans and ff owners into orbit over the prospects of what may be.
2. He tweaks something--a quad in this case--and does so during a punt return, thanks to his idiot coaching staff.
3. Said idiot coaching staff leaves him on the field for the duration of the game, even though the injury has rendered him useless to his team.
4. He vanishes.
So even if he has matured and become a four quarter competitor--which I doubt with almost total certainty--his coaching staff will figure out a way to use or misuse him into the ground.
1. He flashes world class talent, making none other than Darrelle Revis look average, sending Cowboy fans and ff owners into orbit over the prospects of what may be.
2. He tweaks something--a quad in this case--and does so during a punt return, thanks to his idiot coaching staff.
3. Said idiot coaching staff leaves him on the field for the duration of the game, even though the injury has rendered him useless to his team.
4. He vanishes.
So even if he has matured and become a four quarter competitor--which I doubt with almost total certainty--his coaching staff will figure out a way to use or misuse him into the ground.
Couldn't have said it better myself. The idea that they have their most explosive offensive weapon returning punts is ridiculous because he broke his ankle returning kicks the year before. I understand the idea of trying to get yards on the return but if he is injured the year before why have him back out there. I hope they don't do that s--- again.
14 team Keeper(9 players) 10x10 Mixed
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Rickie Weeks
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Bryce Harper, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Ben Zobrist
SP - David Price
SP - Brandon Morrow
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Joel Hanrahan
P - Ryan Cook
P - David Robertson
P - Eric O' Flaherty
Bench: Tony Cingrani, Jeff Keppinger Hisashi Iwakuma( SP,RP), Tim Hudson, Eric Hosmer, Andrew Cashner,
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, Brian Roberts
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:07 PM
Early ADP data says he is going late 4th round on average.
Going 5.03 in PPR drafts (according to FF calculator http://fantasyfootba...com/adp_ppr.php).
This all could change in 3 months obviously, but I would gladly take his upside in 5th round of a 12 team league.
Nearly 1000 yds last year and 9 TD's. 3rd year WR in a offense that should be clicking (I believe a healthy Miles and RB core should help).
Sign me up (in the 5th).
Going 5.03 in PPR drafts (according to FF calculator http://fantasyfootba...com/adp_ppr.php).
This all could change in 3 months obviously, but I would gladly take his upside in 5th round of a 12 team league.
Nearly 1000 yds last year and 9 TD's. 3rd year WR in a offense that should be clicking (I believe a healthy Miles and RB core should help).
Sign me up (in the 5th).
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 12:09 AM
Thought this blurb was interesting...
Is there going to be enough to go around if, in fact, this is going to regress?
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An NFL-high 87 percent of the Cowboys' offensive touchdowns were of the passing variety in 2011.
For perspective, the NFL average is 65 percent, and the Packers and Lions were the only other teams over 80 percent. The Cowboys' 33:5 pass-to-run TD ratio is sure to regress in 2012, boding well for projected workhorse and goal-line back DeMarco Murray.
For perspective, the NFL average is 65 percent, and the Packers and Lions were the only other teams over 80 percent. The Cowboys' 33:5 pass-to-run TD ratio is sure to regress in 2012, boding well for projected workhorse and goal-line back DeMarco Murray.
Is there going to be enough to go around if, in fact, this is going to regress?
10 Team Standard Scoring
QB Cam Newton
RB Ray Rice
RB Darren McFadden
RB/WR Percy Harvin
WR Steve Smith
WR Dez Bryant
TE Jared Cook
D/ST Bills (Stream)
K Hartley (Stream)
BE Adrian Peterson
BE DeAngelo Williams
BE Alshon Jeffery
BE Jeremy Maclin
BE Anquan Boldin
BE David Wilson
BE Titus Young
QB Cam Newton
RB Ray Rice
RB Darren McFadden
RB/WR Percy Harvin
WR Steve Smith
WR Dez Bryant
TE Jared Cook
D/ST Bills (Stream)
K Hartley (Stream)
BE Adrian Peterson
BE DeAngelo Williams
BE Alshon Jeffery
BE Jeremy Maclin
BE Anquan Boldin
BE David Wilson
BE Titus Young
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Posted 16 May 2012 - 02:57 PM
I think you can probably count on him for double digit tds because they're ego boosters but he'll never get huge yardage totals. He reminds me of the years Randy Moss would quit halfway through the season, he'd still catch 12-13 tds but have like 930 yds while doing it. Still in td heavy leagues I'd roll with Bryant as a WR2.
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QB: C. Newton
RB: R. Rice
RB: R. Bush
WR: B. Marshall
WR: M. Austin
Flex: M. Crabtree
TE: K. Rudolph
K: M. Bryant
Def: Green Bay
Bench: B. Lloyd, BJGE, J. Finley, D. Bess, D. Thomas, B. Pierce
Record: 7-6 ; 3rd Place Championship Bracket
QB: C. Newton
RB: R. Rice
RB: R. Bush
WR: B. Marshall
WR: M. Austin
Flex: M. Crabtree
TE: K. Rudolph
K: M. Bryant
Def: Green Bay
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 06:12 PM
i have a choice between Dez and Julio as my 3rd keeper. I'll be taking Julio all day.
Dez has crazy talent but he is a freaking headcase
Dez has crazy talent but he is a freaking headcase
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RB: Jamaal Charles*
RB: Matt Forte
RB/WR: Vick Ballard
WR: Percy Harvin
WR/TE: Jimmy Graham
WR/TE: Danario Alexander
DEF: Falcons
K: Tucker
BN: Peyton Hillis, Dennis Pitta, Brandon Gibson, Robert Turbin, Titus Young, Brandon Myers, Santana Moss
TRADED: Julio*/Luck/Arizona D for Forte/Young/Tucker on 10/31
"I knew it was a kicker year!" - Dr. Andre Nowzik
QB: Drew Brees*
RB: Jamaal Charles*
RB: Matt Forte
RB/WR: Vick Ballard
WR: Percy Harvin
WR/TE: Jimmy Graham
WR/TE: Danario Alexander
DEF: Falcons
K: Tucker
BN: Peyton Hillis, Dennis Pitta, Brandon Gibson, Robert Turbin, Titus Young, Brandon Myers, Santana Moss
TRADED: Julio*/Luck/Arizona D for Forte/Young/Tucker on 10/31
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 05:51 AM
I like, and I'm buying in the right round.
Holben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:
Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...
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WR1: Calvin Johnson - WR2: Torrey Smith - Bench: Josh Gordon, Chris Givens, Ryan Broyles
RB1: Mikel LeShoure - RB2: Dexter McCluster - Bench: Montario Hardesty, Kevin Smith
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FLEX: Tony Gonzalez
K: Greg Zuerlein
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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:30 AM
I was just about to start a thread on him until I noticed there was one already. How can you be disappointed with 63 catches, 900+ yard guy? Most guys leading the WRs usually have about 70+ catches and 1,000 yards and with Laurent Robinson gone that will just give Dez more opportunities. I think he'll have double digit TDs and 1,000 yards this season. WR2 with WR1 upside.
rraayy3, on 20 August 2012 - 11:16 AM, said:
"experts" do not exist.
get sunday ticket, think for yourself.
get sunday ticket, think for yourself.
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