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Cecil Shorts 2012 Season Outlook


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#41 hard1

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Posted 31 October 2012 - 09:30 PM

Loving that charlie Kelly avatar. Wild card!

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:29 PM

How is there not more buzz about this guy?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 03:54 PM

How is there not more buzz about this guy?


*shrug* his name or something, haha. Starting him again this week. Done well for me 4/5 weeks, and I like his chances for consistency better if Henne's in and not Gabbert (weird to say but hey, it is what it is).

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:28 PM

I still see him as boom or bust. He's been boom lately, but take away that one catch last week and he was a bust. He's been doing a lot with just a few receptions each game.
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RB: Andre Ellington, Matt Asiata
TE: Jimmy Graham
Flex: Justin Hunter
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Posted 20 November 2012 - 04:37 PM

I still see him as boom or bust. He's been boom lately, but take away that one catch last week and he was a bust. He's been doing a lot with just a few receptions each game.


He gets a lot of targets and it looks like the Jags are gonna air it out

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:06 PM

Does his value go up with Gabbert going on IR?

I think it does.. don't like that Blackmon had twice as many targets last week.
12 Team Keeper, 0.5 PPR, All TDs = 6 pts
QB: Cam Newton
RB: Eddie Lacy, Giovani Bernard, Steven Jackson, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Bishop Sankey
WR: Calvin Johnson, Roddy White, Kelvin Benjamin, Justin Hunter
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce

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QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson, Bobby Rainey
WR: Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace, Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron, Dennis Pitta, Travis Kelce

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:08 PM

Blackmon's value goes up the most. Cecil's, IMO, stays the same or goes down slightly.

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RB1: Lesean McCoy (Matt Asiata, Alfred Blue, Jonathan Stewart)
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WR1: Alshon Jeffrey (Kelvin Benjamin, Brandin Cooks)
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Flex: Emmanuel Sanders
TE: Antonio Gates (Ladarius Green)
D/ST: Seahawks
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:11 PM

I had Shorts and ended up essentially dropping him for Danario Alexander. I figured I'd rather take a chance on Danario's balky knees than having Blaine Gabbert throwing passes to any of my WR. Now it looks like it would have been best to find a way to carry both of them!

I ended up getting Blackmon off waivers this week...and while I think I'd still rather have Shorts than Blackmon Henne seemed to really lock onto Blackmon, he had 13 targets (only 3 WR had more targets) to Shorts' 6 so that's definitely something to consider.

Edited by rubberchicken, 21 November 2012 - 12:12 PM.

12 Team PPR
QB (1) - RGIII
RB (2) - Charles, Gore
WR (2) - VJax, Nelson
Flex (1) - Bernard, Andre Brown, Ellington Hunter, Josh Gordon, Michael Floyd
TE (1) - Gronk, Reed
D/ST (1) - Giants
K (1) - Gostkowski

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:14 PM

I had Shorts and ended up essentially dropping him for Danario Alexander. I figured I'd rather take a chance on Danario's balky knees than having Blaine Gabbert throwing passes to any of my WR. Now it looks like it would have been best to find a way to carry both of them!

I ended up getting Blackmon off waivers this week...and while I think I'd still rather have Shorts than Blackmon Henne seemed to really lock onto Blackmon, he had 13 targets (only 3 WR had more targets) to Shorts' 6 so that's definitely something to consider.


Yeah, I think Shorts is going to be more consistent (which is weird since he makes his living on big plays), but Blackmon has much higher upside.

I'm gonna follow the targets with Henne running the show.. the Henne/Blackmon combo looked GREAT.
12 Team Keeper, 0.5 PPR, All TDs = 6 pts
QB: Cam Newton
RB: Eddie Lacy, Giovani Bernard, Steven Jackson, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Bishop Sankey
WR: Calvin Johnson, Roddy White, Kelvin Benjamin, Justin Hunter
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce

12 Team Redraft, 0.5 PPR, All TDs = 6 pts
QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson, Bobby Rainey
WR: Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace, Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron, Dennis Pitta, Travis Kelce

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:29 PM

With Laurent Robinson out for the year, I see Shorts having Victor Cruz value now.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:31 PM

With Laurent Robinson out for the year, I see Shorts having Victor Cruz value now.


Don't go that far..
12 Team Keeper, 0.5 PPR, All TDs = 6 pts
QB: Cam Newton
RB: Eddie Lacy, Giovani Bernard, Steven Jackson, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Bishop Sankey
WR: Calvin Johnson, Roddy White, Kelvin Benjamin, Justin Hunter
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce

12 Team Redraft, 0.5 PPR, All TDs = 6 pts
QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson, Bobby Rainey
WR: Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace, Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron, Dennis Pitta, Travis Kelce

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:40 PM

Shorts gets a slight bump as teams now have to account for someone actually being able to get Blackmon the ball. Can't go wrong owning either guy at this point.

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QB: Rivers
RB: Lacy, Ball, Spiller, J.Bell, Stacy, Asiata
WR: White, Wayne, Hawkins, Sanu
TE: Gates
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:08 PM

Shorts gets a slight bump as teams now have to account for someone actually being able to get Blackmon the ball. Can't go wrong owning either guy at this point.


I totally get this logic...and sometimes this reasoning proves true. I viewed Shorts as kind of like a poor man's Dwayne Bowe before Week 11: terrible QB situation, losing team, no other viable receiver threats, garbage time hero.

Now the landscape is different with Henne in there. Not that he's necessarily the savior at QB but simply because his tendencies and rapport have yet to be known. Based on the small sample size (twice as many targets for Blackmon) it looks like so far that Henne prefers Blackmon. And really targets are what is most important when all is said and done. If Henne really does prefer Blackmon over Shorts and defenses don't game plan to stop Blackmon it could turn into a situation where you need a long score from Shorts to have a better PPR day than Blackmon.

I think this situation is more of a coin flip than people realize and that Blackmon's floor might really not be that low at all going forward. Time will tell.

Edited by rubberchicken, 21 November 2012 - 01:08 PM.

12 Team PPR
QB (1) - RGIII
RB (2) - Charles, Gore
WR (2) - VJax, Nelson
Flex (1) - Bernard, Andre Brown, Ellington Hunter, Josh Gordon, Michael Floyd
TE (1) - Gronk, Reed
D/ST (1) - Giants
K (1) - Gostkowski

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:45 PM

I didn't watch the last game but from what I understand Jonathan Joseph shadowed Cecil in the game which could explain Henne's increased looks to blackmon. JJ (if I recall reading in a matchup breakdown somewhere) was the most effective statistically at shutting his guy down this season.

Cecil has made a believer out of me and I will be starting him every week here on out. He is a play maker.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:07 PM

I wish I had room for him..

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QB: Cam Newton
RB: Eddie Lacy, Giovani Bernard, Steven Jackson, Mark Ingram, Khiry Robinson, Bishop Sankey
WR: Calvin Johnson, Roddy White, Kelvin Benjamin, Justin Hunter
TE: Rob Gronkowski, Travis Kelce

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QB: Matthew Stafford
RB: Giovani Bernard, Doug Martin, Danny Woodhead, Khiry Robinson, Bobby Rainey
WR: Dez Bryant, Michael Crabtree, Mike Wallace, Josh Gordon
TE: Jordan Cameron, Dennis Pitta, Travis Kelce

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:42 PM

His name just kind of makes you think hes mediocre. Such a plain name lol
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Solid WR for sure. Surprise player of the year maybe?
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:01 PM

His name just kind of makes you think hes mediocre. Such a plain name lol


Yeah, most of my friends are named Cecil.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:22 AM

i think we'll see those targets even out, when henne came into the game two weeks ago shorts picked it up on that thursday night game....last week i think the targets were a product of blackmon being open, guess we'll see this week....either way if cecil sticks with his usual 3 for 80 and a TD not sure i care how many targets he gets... but of course more is better

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:39 AM

Well, sorry folks...i bring doom to every pickup that is on a streak. Hes had 6-7 weeks of double digits production? Well believe me, i picked him up and have him in my lineup so the buck will stop here.