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#101
B.Winslow
Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:52 AM
 Donnie99, on 24 February 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:
the reason he is off the bench is to provide offense in the second unit.
I don't agree. He wasn't move due to the jazz needing offense in the second unit. He was moved cause he was struggling in the first unit, mostly due to Utah's bigs being black holes. Yes he has played better/found his groove with the second unit, but I think his play has earned him a chance to get back into the starting 5, and he should be playing 35+ minutes every night.
#102
Donnie99
Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:02 AM
That's not primarily the reason but it is related to that one. As you said, he struggles in the starting lineup because of the bigs because he won't get the touches he deserve. I actually don't like him in the starting lineup where his production offensively will get a hit. Instead, come off the bench where the ball is in his hands more and still play 35+ mins a night.
#103
B.Winslow
Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:30 AM
Donnie99, on 24 February 2013 - 09:02 AM, said:
That's not primarily the reason but it is related to that one. As you said, he struggles in the starting lineup because of the bigs because he won't get the touches he deserve. I actually don't like him in the starting lineup where his production offensively will get a hit. Instead, come off the bench where the ball is in his hands more and still play 35+ mins a night.
Well I guess the most important thing is the minutes. It kills me to watch both Utah and their starting guards struggle and have Hayward play only 22 minutes when he is playing the best ball on the team.
#104
Donnie99
Posted 24 February 2013 - 09:49 AM
I'm with you on that, foye's and marvin's minutes should be cut.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:55 PM
I really hope Hayward gets locked into some heavy minutes for this last stretch of the season. I need a reliable SG to back up Paul George heading into the playoffs.
8 team, 8 cat H2H weekly lineup league:
PG: Conley, Lillard, Irving, Andre Miller
SG: Paul George
SF: Durant, AK47, Ersan
PF: Bosh, Thad, Jeff Green
C: Marc Gasol, Noah
#106
Bigpapichulo
Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:21 PM
Trifecta, on 25 February 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:
I really hope Hayward gets locked into some heavy minutes for this last stretch of the season. I need a reliable SG to back up Paul George heading into the playoffs.
Couldn't be happier picking him up from free agency.
Who thinks the Jazz will stay at the 7th spot in the West?
TEAM 1
ESPN 10 Team; H2H; 8 CAT; Daily
PG's: Deron Williams, George Hill, Damian Lillard
SG's: James Harden, Aaron Affalo
SF's: Paul Pierce, Gordon Hayward
PF's: Ryan Anderson, JJ Hickson, Paul Millsap
C's : Marc Gasol, Larry Sanders, Kevin Love
TEAM 2
Yahoo 10 Team; H2H; 11 CAT; Daily; KEEPER League (Each Team has 17 Roster spots!)
PG's: Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul, Brandon Jennings,
SG's: Bradley Beal, Vince Carter, Tony Allen
SF's: Jeff Green, Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
PF's: Zach Randolph, Derrick Williams, Reggie Evans, Dirk Nowitzki
C's : Serge Ibaka, Nikola Pekovic, Andrew Bogut, Tyson Chandler, Jason Thompson
#107
jamesisharden
Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:52 PM
Looks very solid tonight so far. The Jazz look much better with him on the court too.
20 pts, 4 3's, 1 reb, 1 ast, 1 stl
12 team H2H Roto:
C: Miguel Montero
1B: Chris Davis
2B: M. Carpenter
3B: Longoria
SS: Zobrist
OF: Cargo
OF: Fowler
OF: Mclouth
UTIL: Sandoval
BN: Ike Davis, Hardy, Gattis, Parra
SP: Price, Dickey, Medlen, Zimmermann, Lynn, Cahill, Quintana
RP: Nathan, Betancourt, League
#108
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:09 PM
Yezzir
8 team, 8 cat H2H weekly lineup league:
PG: Conley, Lillard, Irving, Andre Miller
SG: Paul George
SF: Durant, AK47, Ersan
PF: Bosh, Thad, Jeff Green
C: Marc Gasol, Noah
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Basketball
Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:11 PM
white boys good.
12 Team ESPN H2H League *going for 3peat*
PG Russell Westbrook, Greivis Vasquez, Jeremy Lin
SG J.R. Smith, J Bayless
SF Rudy Gay, Ersan Ilyasova
PF Dirk Nowitzki, Andrei Kirilenko, Spencer Hawes
C Roy Hibbert, Amir Johnson
14 Team Yahoo H2H Money League
PG Vasquez, Jeremy Lin, IT2, Dwill
SG Marcus Thornton, Gordan Hayward,
SF Danilo Gallinari, D Wright, Rudy Gay
PF/C Nene, JJ Hickson, Andre Drummond, MCbob, B Wright
Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:16 PM
Crushing it!
Yahoo H2H 12 Team/9 Cat
pg - G. Dragic, J. Wall, G. Vasquez
sg - M. Ellis, K. Thompson, T. Evans
sf - R. Gay, G. Hayward
pf - L. Aldridge, J Green, T Harris
c - A. Jefferson, R. Hibbert, N. Pekovic, J. Valanciunas
Yahoo H2H 10 Team / 5x5 Cat (25 players)
C - V. Martinez
1B - F. Freeman, B. Belt
2B - D. Pedroia, J. Altuve
3B - Mig. Cabrera, J. Gyorko
SS - B. Zobrist, J. Lowrie
OF - J. Bautista, Carlos Gomez, A. Ethier, A. Soriano, L. Cain
DL - C. Granderson
SP - A. Wainwright, J. Weaver, R.A. Dickey, I. Kennedy, M. Estrada, J. Hellickson, A.J. Burnett
RP - J. Nathan, H. Street, Casey Janssen
#111
B.Winslow
Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:17 PM
Love me some Hayward. I still think he should be starting. He could be doing exactly what parsons is doing. I'd love to see him get 38 minutes one night.
#112
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:21 PM
I have a feeling in my gut he may be earning some extra minutes with his play. 31 minutes, 26 points tonight. That will get a coach's attention.
And 34 min last game too. I think we are already seeing an uptick in PT.
Let's go to overtime please!
Edited by Trifecta, 25 February 2013 - 11:23 PM.
8 team, 8 cat H2H weekly lineup league:
PG: Conley, Lillard, Irving, Andre Miller
SG: Paul George
SF: Durant, AK47, Ersan
PF: Bosh, Thad, Jeff Green
C: Marc Gasol, Noah
#113
jamesisharden
Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:21 PM
B.Winslow, on 25 February 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:
Love me some Hayward. I still think he should be starting. He could be doing exactly what parsons is doing. I'd love to see him get 38 minutes one night.
He might be better as the 6th man on this team. It allows Big Al/Millsap to get shots early and get going. He is the primary scorer for the second unit and stays in for the fourth.
He's played the second most minutes tonight on the team.
12 team H2H Roto:
C: Miguel Montero
1B: Chris Davis
2B: M. Carpenter
3B: Longoria
SS: Zobrist
OF: Cargo
OF: Fowler
OF: Mclouth
UTIL: Sandoval
BN: Ike Davis, Hardy, Gattis, Parra
SP: Price, Dickey, Medlen, Zimmermann, Lynn, Cahill, Quintana
RP: Nathan, Betancourt, League
#114
B.Winslow
Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:37 PM
jamesisharden, on 25 February 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:
B.Winslow, on 25 February 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:
Love me some Hayward. I still think he should be starting. He could be doing exactly what parsons is doing. I'd love to see him get 38 minutes one night.
He might be better as the 6th man on this team. It allows Big Al/Millsap to get shots early and get going. He is the primary scorer for the second unit and stays in for the fourth.
He's played the second most minutes tonight on the team.
You're right, as long as the playing time is there.
#115
PaddingtonBear
Posted 26 February 2013 - 03:57 AM
I like the Parsons comparison from earlier. If anything Hayward is an even more polished version of Parsons who would thrive in Houston's up-tempo system in much the same way. Whatever role he has been playing the last 3 games should continue and as long as the minutes are there I don't mind if he continues coming off the bench the rest of the season.
#116
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:16 AM
Despite only scoring 11 points last night, you have to love that he is filling the stat sheet.
The most important number to look at: 37 min
His playing time was the factor bottlenecking his potential for much of the season (averaging only 27 min), but he has now played 3 straight games with at least 34 minutes! That, my friends, is HUGE for his value moving forward.
It's clear the Jazz recognize he will need to play a major roll for this team, and I am happy he is on the roster heading into this final stretch.
8 team, 8 cat H2H weekly lineup league:
PG: Conley, Lillard, Irving, Andre Miller
SG: Paul George
SF: Durant, AK47, Ersan
PF: Bosh, Thad, Jeff Green
C: Marc Gasol, Noah
#117
jamesisharden
Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:32 AM
B.Winslow, on 25 February 2013 - 11:37 PM, said:
jamesisharden, on 25 February 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:
B.Winslow, on 25 February 2013 - 11:17 PM, said:
Love me some Hayward. I still think he should be starting. He could be doing exactly what parsons is doing. I'd love to see him get 38 minutes one night.
He might be better as the 6th man on this team. It allows Big Al/Millsap to get shots early and get going. He is the primary scorer for the second unit and stays in for the fourth.
He's played the second most minutes tonight on the team.
You're right, as long as the playing time is there.
Trifecta, on 28 February 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:
Despite only scoring 11 points last night, you have to love that he is filling the stat sheet.
The most important number to look at: 37 min
His playing time was the factor bottlenecking his potential for much of the season (averaging only 27 min), but he has now played 3 straight games with at least 34 minutes! That, my friends, is HUGE for his value moving forward.
It's clear the Jazz recognize he will need to play a major roll for this team, and I am happy he is on the roster heading into this final stretch.
Minutes, Minutes, Minutes!
Like discussed earlier in this thread: Even if he's the 6th man, he is getting valuable minutes and playing down the stretch.
12 team H2H Roto:
C: Miguel Montero
1B: Chris Davis
2B: M. Carpenter
3B: Longoria
SS: Zobrist
OF: Cargo
OF: Fowler
OF: Mclouth
UTIL: Sandoval
BN: Ike Davis, Hardy, Gattis, Parra
SP: Price, Dickey, Medlen, Zimmermann, Lynn, Cahill, Quintana
RP: Nathan, Betancourt, League
#118
champy41
Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:55 AM
yeah I feel very lucky to snag Hayward off waivers after his first game back...this kid is a baller and throw in Jazz schedule...me likes.
Edited by champy41, 28 February 2013 - 10:56 AM.
12 team h2h money league (non-keeper). Categories are: R, HR, RBI, SB, AVG, W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP
C-A.J. Pierzynski (Tex - C)
1B-Mark Reynolds (Cle - 1B,3B)
2B-Ian Kinsler (Tex - 2B)
3B-Miguel Cabrera (Det - 3B)
SS-Marco Scutaro (SF - 2B,3B,SS)
OF-Shin-Soo Choo (Cin - OF), Nelson Cruz (Tex - OF), Adam Dunn (CHW - 1B,OF)
Util-Adam LaRoche (Was - 1B), Josh Donaldson (Oak - 3B)
BN-Alexei Ramirez (CHW - SS)
DL-Corey Hart (Mil - 1B,OF)
SP-David Price (TB - SP), Gio Gonzalez (Was - SP), Max Scherzer (Det - SP), Hyun-Jin Ryu (LAD - SP)
RP-Craig Kimbrel (Atl - RP), Joe Nathan (Tex - RP), Chris Perez (Cle - RP), Edward Mujica (StL - RP)
BN-Kyle Kendrick (Phi - SP,RP), Brandon McCarthy (Ari - SP), David Phelps (NYY - SP,RP), Jeff Locke (Pit - SP)
#119
guambomb
Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:38 AM
gotta see how he plays today on this back to back. last game was terrible with al jeff being back
PG: Curry, Irving, Holiday, Rubio
SG: J.R. Smith, Felton
SF: Batum, D. Green, J. Butler
PF: Josh Smith, J. Green, T. Harris
C: Ibaka, Hawes
H2H 9 cat, 10 team league
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