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[ChrisFarley]

2013 MLB:   3.74 era, 1.26 whip, 135 k in 127.2 ip (3.09 FIP, 3.47 xFIP)
Career Minors: 2.80 era, 1.02 whip, 370 k in 347 ip

What do you guys expect from Mike Fiers in 2013?  Based on his strong minor league numbers, I dont think he was a total fluke.  He did struggle down the stretch, probably because of the innings piling up.  However, his performance for the Brewers was pretty similar to his minor league track record.  One thing of concern is that he has a slow fastball (88-90 mph).  With his funky delivery, it was pretty effective.  His changeup and curveball are pretty filthy.

My bold prediction: 175 IP, 170 K, 3.65 era, 1.20 whip

Fair or foul?

[parrothead]

ChrisFarley, on 27 November 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

2013 MLB:   3.74 era, 1.26 whip, 135 k in 127.2 ip (3.09 FIP, 3.47 xFIP)
Career Minors: 2.80 era, 1.02 whip, 370 k in 347 ip

What do you guys expect from Mike Fiers in 2013?  Based on his strong minor league numbers, I dont think he was a total fluke.  He did struggle down the stretch, probably because of the innings piling up.  However, his performance for the Brewers was pretty similar to his minor league track record.  One thing of concern is that he has a slow fastball (88-90 mph).  With his funky delivery, it was pretty effective.  His changeup and curveball are pretty filthy.

My bold prediction: 175 IP, 170 K, 3.65 era, 1.20 whip

Fair or foul?

Pretty fair, assuming he stays OK and runs out there for 30 starts, I think your numbers seem reasonable.  I think he will be a pretty good value too in auctions and drafts.  The fact he isnt a big time prospect or on any top 100 lists will keep many pessimistic about him.  In my 13-team mixed league, Ive got a 9-man staff, the 7 spot is usually flyer closer/starter type, so if Im getting him for a few bucks and sliding into the 6 spot or maybe 5 spot on draft night, I'd be just fine with that.

[ChrisFarley]

Just wanted to re-visit and see if anyone had any new thoughts on what to expect from Fiers in 2013.

[Code of Hammurabi]

For some reason he reminds me a ton of Shaun Marcum

[klove42]

Code of Hammurabi, on 10 January 2013 - 11:40 AM, said:

For some reason he reminds me a ton of Shaun Marcum

Which isn't bad because he will most likely be a lot cheaper. I actually completely forgot about him until I saw this thread. I've been doing a some reading on sites and havent seen him mentioned yet. I think him and Doubrant could be some good sleepers.

[Impeccable]

ChrisFarley, on 27 November 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

2013 MLB:   3.74 era, 1.26 whip, 135 k in 127.2 ip (3.09 FIP, 3.47 xFIP)
Career Minors: 2.80 era, 1.02 whip, 370 k in 347 ip

What do you guys expect from Mike Fiers in 2013?  Based on his strong minor league numbers, I dont think he was a total fluke.  He did struggle down the stretch, probably because of the innings piling up.  However, his performance for the Brewers was pretty similar to his minor league track record.  One thing of concern is that he has a slow fastball (88-90 mph).  With his funky delivery, it was pretty effective.  His changeup and curveball are pretty filthy.

My bold prediction: 175 IP, 170 K, 3.65 era, 1.20 whip

Fair or foul?

Fair prediction but was his melt down in the second half due to hitters figuing him out or fatigue?  His fastball is far from impressive.

[PRoSPx]

Impeccable, on 21 January 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

ChrisFarley, on 27 November 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

2013 MLB:   3.74 era, 1.26 whip, 135 k in 127.2 ip (3.09 FIP, 3.47 xFIP)
Career Minors: 2.80 era, 1.02 whip, 370 k in 347 ip

What do you guys expect from Mike Fiers in 2013?  Based on his strong minor league numbers, I dont think he was a total fluke.  He did struggle down the stretch, probably because of the innings piling up.  However, his performance for the Brewers was pretty similar to his minor league track record.  One thing of concern is that he has a slow fastball (88-90 mph).  With his funky delivery, it was pretty effective.  His changeup and curveball are pretty filthy.

My bold prediction: 175 IP, 170 K, 3.65 era, 1.20 whip

Fair or foul?

Fair prediction but was his melt down in the second half due to hitters figuing him out or fatigue?  His fastball is far from impressive.

His 2nd half was by no means a melt downYes his ERA was 4.56 and WHIP was 1.37 but he still had 85 Ks and 6 wins over 81 innings.  Yes it wasn't great but it also wasn't Lincecum or Liriano.  They had melt downs.If anything you could say he melted down in September.  At that point I think it's fair to assume arm fatigue for a rookie.

[baltimore_boy]

Impeccable, on 21 January 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

ChrisFarley, on 27 November 2012 - 05:45 PM, said:

2013 MLB:   3.74 era, 1.26 whip, 135 k in 127.2 ip (3.09 FIP, 3.47 xFIP)
Career Minors: 2.80 era, 1.02 whip, 370 k in 347 ip

What do you guys expect from Mike Fiers in 2013?  Based on his strong minor league numbers, I dont think he was a total fluke.  He did struggle down the stretch, probably because of the innings piling up.  However, his performance for the Brewers was pretty similar to his minor league track record.  One thing of concern is that he has a slow fastball (88-90 mph).  With his funky delivery, it was pretty effective.  His changeup and curveball are pretty filthy.

My bold prediction: 175 IP, 170 K, 3.65 era, 1.20 whip

Fair or foul?

Fair prediction but was his melt down in the second half due to hitters figuing him out or fatigue?  His fastball is far from impressive.

I feel like Fiers is going to be boom or bust this year, with the result coming from the answer to this question. If he was figured out, it could be a rough start to the year before he eventually gets the boot from the rotation. Similar to what happened to Josh Collmenter last year. But if it was from fatigue, then he could be solid again next year.

[PRoSPx]

Collmenter is a good comparasion but even he still had a very productive year and wasn't nearly as dominating the year before.

[baltimore_boy]

PRoSPx, on 21 January 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

Collmenter is a good comparasion but even he still had a very productive year and wasn't nearly as dominating the year before.

If you had Collmenter at the start of the year, you wouldn't be saying that he was productive. He was dreadful in the rotation to start the year before rebounding as a reliever. Fiers may eventually be better suited for the bullpen. With his different delivery, he may be better off coming out of the bullpen and throwing one or two innings at a time. That way the hitters wouldn't be able to prepare for his delivery.

[PRoSPx]

Yeah I looked into.his splits and Collmenter had a terrible April but even that considered he still had a very nice season when healthy.

[Wombat]

This guy caught my eye when looking through the SP list.  He was dominating up until an awful SEP which totally inflated his numbers, for a while he was rocking a 2 ERA with over a k per inning and he finished the year with 135 k's in 127 innings.  Now, I know he throws like 89 as a RH pitcher so he has to have some sort of deception.  Did he gas out at the end of the year? Or did people just start to figure him out?

[klove42]

Wombat, on 11 February 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

This guy caught my eye when looking through the SP list.  He was dominating up until an awful SEP which totally inflated his numbers, for a while he was rocking a 2 ERA with over a k per inning and he finished the year with 135 k's in 127 innings.  Now, I know he throws like 89 as a RH pitcher so he has to have some sort of deception.  Did he gas out at the end of the year? Or did people just start to figure him out?

This is what I am wondering on him as well, but I guess I wont really know until spring training and the start of the season. If his value is good on draft day I might take the risk anyway, but I could see him ending up someone I drop within the first couple of weeks

[iAugust]

I prefer Estrada slightly for the Brewers this year personally, though I think both could provide good value if drafted at the right time.

[baltimore_boy]

klove42, on 11 February 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:

Wombat, on 11 February 2013 - 02:12 AM, said:

This guy caught my eye when looking through the SP list.  He was dominating up until an awful SEP which totally inflated his numbers, for a while he was rocking a 2 ERA with over a k per inning and he finished the year with 135 k's in 127 innings.  Now, I know he throws like 89 as a RH pitcher so he has to have some sort of deception.  Did he gas out at the end of the year? Or did people just start to figure him out?

This is what I am wondering on him as well, but I guess I wont really know until spring training and the start of the season. If his value is good on draft day I might take the risk anyway, but I could see him ending up someone I drop within the first couple of weeks

His season will probably go one of two ways. He either just ran out of gas and will come back this year and put together a good year, or he will flame out because he was figured out and lost his deception.

[Travis Burten]

iAugust, on 11 February 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

I prefer Estrada slightly for the Brewers this year personally, though I think both could provide good value if drafted at the right time.

Ditto. I think Estrada's going to be great....Fiers, around average.

[Zumayaaaa]

He hasn't been to good this spring and is scheduled as the Brewers 5th starter so not sure when he will make his 1st reg. season start.
Either way I'm not getting great vibes from him and may cut bait before he even throws a pitch for my team this season.

[cymbaline]

Rocked again today.
3 IP, 7 ER, 8 H, 2 BB

His spring ERA is 6.98.  I know, it's spring.  But it would be nice if he showed something -- or anything -- before the regular season gets underway.

[holyBrowns]

Fiers isn't someone that can just go out and overpower a lineup.  He's got to get back into his groove and start locating

[umphrey]

Fiers isn't Collmenter.  He does it with one of the best curves in baseball.  He's going to get rocked some days, but he should have the same longevity as any other pitcher with good off speed stuff and location.