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cbe_88
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:38 PM
1. Rodgers
2. Brees
3. Brady
4. RG3
5. Matty Ice
6. Peyton Manning
7. Stafford
Is next year's first round going to be even more crowded with QB's? The last 3 QB's listed might not make it, but idk...there were 4 qb's that generally went in the first round last year if you include Stafford, and that could get close to doubling next year.
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green
Posted 27 November 2012 - 02:52 PM
I'd only take Rodgers in the first. When QB is that deep, why bother with the other guys? I'm definitely not going to take RG3, not that I don't believe in him - but he just carries the risk of being a one year wonder like other running QBs have been in the recent past (Vick and Cam) that Rodgers, Brees, and Brady don't carry.
I'll probably wait until like round 10 to take a QB next year. I was one of the guys who grabbed an elite QB in almost every league this year, but it really hasn't been worth it these past couple years. I realized that even though a guy like Palmer or Dalton can't match Brees production on a weekly basis - and it is nice to have a set and forget guy - if you get two decent QBs it's really easy to play matchups to get elite QB type numbers. It's even easier than streaming defenses honestly, and much more effective.
Here are all the QBs I would be very happy having as my QB1 next year:
Rodgers, Brees, Brady, RG3, Matt Ryan, P Manning, Stafford, Luck, Vick (if he's a starter), Cam
So that's already 10, and I could settle for guys like Romo, Dalton, and Freeman as well. There's really no need to rush on QB next year. I may take Rodgers, but otherwise I'm only grabbing elite QBs if they fall later than they should.
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sott3
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:01 PM
In my league where QBs tend to go very early, I can see Rodgers, Brees, Brady and RG3 going in the first round if RG3 keeps preforming as he has through the end of the season.
12 Team League, 0.5 PPR, 4 pts per pass TD
QB: T.Brady
RB: A.Bradshaw, A.Morris, B.Brown, D.Wilson
WR: Julio Jones, G.Jennings, D.Alexander, James Jones, D.Amendola
TE: A.Gates, D.Pitta
K: M.Bryant
DEF: Seattle
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:05 PM
I think the Big 3 (Brady, Brees, Rodgers) are a lock to go in rd1. Anything after that, I wouldn't necessarily be *surprised*, but I don't personally think I would take the plunge.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:10 PM
At this point I'd only take Rodgers round 1 and it would only be if my 1-5 ranked RB were gone.
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#6
Pooskay
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:11 PM
QB field is going to be pretty deep next year.
i'm going to take my usual route and wait until the middle rounds.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:12 PM
I think a large part of it too is how the league scoring is. Most leagues are 4pt passing TDs, making QBs more in line with other player scoring. Some leagues do 6pts for ALL TDs, passing included, making a top-tier QB definitely worthy of a first-round selection
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:14 PM
Rg3 needs to be in that discussion to be picke din the late 1st round honestly
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#9
sott3
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:21 PM
The only issue with RG3 is people may look at what happened to Cam this year and get a little skittish about him.
12 Team League, 0.5 PPR, 4 pts per pass TD
QB: T.Brady
RB: A.Bradshaw, A.Morris, B.Brown, D.Wilson
WR: Julio Jones, G.Jennings, D.Alexander, James Jones, D.Amendola
TE: A.Gates, D.Pitta
K: M.Bryant
DEF: Seattle
#10
GottaGetTheWin
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:21 PM
This all depends on league scoring and league size.
Standard scoring I don't think ANY QB is worth a first round pick
6 pts per TD, 2 QB leagues I can see it but the list is very few. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, MAYBE RG3.
14 team Keeper(9 players) 10x10 Mixed
C - Yadier Molina
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Ben Zobrist
3B - Manny Machado
SS - Starlin Castro
OF - Chris Denorfia, Desmond Jennings, Shin-Soo Choo
UTL - David Freese, Nick Franklin
SP - David Price
SP - Hisashi Iwakuma
RP - Mariano Rivera
RP - Rex Brothers
P - Tim Hudson
P - David Robertson
P - Justin Wilson
Bench: Kevin Gaussman, Zach Wheeler, Tim Hudson, Andrew Cashner, Jackie Bradley JR. Denard Span
DL: Brandon Beachy, Miguel Pineda, Daniel Hudson, David Price, Bryce Harper
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:26 PM
Brady, Brees, Peyton, Rodgers should be the only QBs considered for a first round pick.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:43 PM
Yeah, I can easily see myself waiting till the middle rounds for my qb, that's what I normally do. I'm not a fan of switching out QB's every week at all, I don't like that strategy, but there's evidence of QB's that become elite that are drafted in middle to late rounds every year. Stafford got drafted so late the year before he went off, and Matty Ice, Peyton and RG3 were all middle to even late round guys last year.
Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:52 PM
sott3, on 27 November 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:
The only issue with RG3 is people may look at what happened to Cam this year and get a little skittish about him.
And that's when you buy low.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:53 PM
Rg3 is NOT Cam Newton. This guy has better passing skills than Cam and really thrives in the option that the Redskins love to run. He also is alittle bit faster than Newton HOWEVER he seems to be a pass first, run later type of guy and thats what you love in your quarterback. i think they are two different players and i honestly cant see any regression in this guy. Over the off season they need to teach him how to slid because thats no doubt going to lead to injuries and i think if he gets that down, its all good
Edited by NyMetsfan5, 27 November 2012 - 03:56 PM.
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#15
calz way
Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:02 PM
GottaGetTheWin, on 27 November 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:
This all depends on league scoring and league size.
Standard scoring I don't think ANY QB is worth a first round pick
6 pts per TD, 2 QB leagues I can see it but the list is very few. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, MAYBE RG3.
My guess would be 4 (P. Manning, Rodgers, Brees, Brady with RG3 flirting with the 1st but going in the mid to late 2nd), but I think it is foolish to use such an early pick on a QB.
Edit- foolish in a standard league like Gotta said, unique circumstances require different strategy
Edited by calz way, 27 November 2012 - 04:03 PM.
ESPN 12 team money league, H2H each cat., usual 8 categories plus 3pt % and assist to turnover ratio
PG: Russell Westbrook, Tyreke Evans, Raymond Felton
SG: Evan Turner, Paul George
SF: Carmelo Anthony, Jared Dudley, Al-Farouq Aminu
PF: David Lee, Dirk Nowitzki, Tiago Splitter
C: Tiago Splitter, Marc Gasol, Andrew Bogut
Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:04 PM
tonavin, on 27 November 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:
I think a large part of it too is how the league scoring is. Most leagues are 4pt passing TDs, making QBs more in line with other player scoring. Some leagues do 6pts for ALL TDs, passing included, making a top-tier QB definitely worthy of a first-round selection
Agreed. Our league is 6 pts for every TD which makes a premier QB very important. I personally don't like it. A second tier QB in our league has as many points as the top RBs. The argument "everything is relative", meaning everybody scores more QB points so it doesn't really matter, doesn't seem to be all that strong. I could see the top 5 QBs going in our first round next year.
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rraayy3
Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:20 PM
If anything this year showed their is no right strategy...
QB early? Ryan, RG3, Dalton ...
RB early? Tell that to the guy in my 14 teamer with Murray/Forte.
WR early? Maybe. Very deep/inconsistent position tho. Cecil MF'n Shorts.
TE early? Gronk/Graham showed they were worth it ... especially with the rest of this year's TEs being completely unreliable. I know Gronk got hurt but his production was worth the high pick before that.
Basically, take whoever you want and hope you get lucky. I think 4-5 QBs will go first round, depending on league size. "Its a passing league bro".
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predator_05
Posted 27 November 2012 - 04:50 PM
If Indy draft well and surround Luck with some better talent, i'm going to overlook all the big names and pick him instead. He is having a phenomenal season with a weak supporting cast in his rookie year, he is only going to get better and better.
I would easily take him over the vastly overrated 'Assy Ice'.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:47 PM
I'm going to experiment with a team next year. Attempt to draft one of: Rodgers, Brees, Brady. Load up on stud WR then take the best starting RB I can find and load up on all decent backup RBs. There's a team in one of my yahoo leagues that had to do autopick and that's what happened to him, started with Megatron, A. Green, R. White, he had McGahee and then simply picked up guys like both Browns, Bush etc., the guy is 10-2.
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 06:25 PM
DocJ, on 27 November 2012 - 05:47 PM, said:
I'm going to experiment with a team next year. Attempt to draft one of: Rodgers, Brees, Brady. Load up on stud WR then take the best starting RB I can find and load up on all decent backup RBs. There's a team in one of my yahoo leagues that had to do autopick and that's what happened to him, started with Megatron, A. Green, R. White, he had McGahee and then simply picked up guys like both Browns, Bush etc., the guy is 10-2.
That's similar to what I did minus the taking a big name QB early. I went Megatron, Graham, Marshall, Julio, Sproles, Bradshaw, BGE. I felt that my first 4 picks would be more consistent than most RBs in the early rounds. I'm 8-4 and have had my fair share of bad luck with injuries(Graham, Julio, Jordy, Bradshaw, Megatron, Sproles, McGahee).
I may take a similar approach next year going with WR, TE, WR if I can.
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