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[dzemens]

So last year was underwhelming and hes been on a decline for a while, cant stay on the field and seems to be playing through injury when he does and now this:

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Alex Rodriguez will need between three and six months to recover from his January hip surgery.
That timetable comes from Joel Sherman of the New York Post, who notes that the upcoming procedure is for a torn labrum in A-Rod's left hip. He had surgery on his right hip back in 2009. The Yankees will be on the hunt for a third baseman over the next couple weeks.

Source: Joel Sherman on Twitter
Dec 3 - 10:45 AM

Where would anyone take this guy this year, are people even counting on him for anything, is he relevant?

[WahooManiac]

For your standard 12 man, id say hes on the DND. Feels like a guy one can get for free after hes inevitably dropped. Deeper leagues, adjust accordingly

[phizzics]

He was marginally useful last year when he played. Seemed like he was kind of getting on track when he was plunked by Felix and never really recovered. There's a chance that he's got a good year or two left in him. Problem is that 3B isn't all that shallow any more, with some really good younger guys showing a lot of promise. I'd probably still take him as a 12th+ round flier depending on how my draft was going.

[phizzics]

And of course I wrote the above without reading the timetable for his recovery. June? Pass...

As an aside, if I had to make a wild prediction, the people who will find him most useful will be those who draft Longoria. ARod's return will probably coincide with Longoria's first extended DL visit.

[parrothead]

Issues with hips with regards to hitting and power are just not a good combo.

If its the end of an auction draft and I still have my DH/UTIL open I wouldnt be completely opposed to taking him say for $1-3.  Taking him as my only 3B and trying to roll with a replacement off the WW for 2-3 months is not something I would do.

Edited by The Harsh, 03 December 2012 - 03:26 PM.
Removed AC content. Please remember to stay away from league and roster-specific intricacies, as they aren't applicable to the general population.

[Patrick Bateman]

phizzics, on 03 December 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

And of course I wrote the above without reading the timetable for his recovery. June? Pass...

As an aside, if I had to make a wild prediction, the people who will find him most useful will be those who draft Longoria. ARod's return will probably coincide with Longoria's first extended DL visit.

I disagree.  Longoria's first extended DL visit will come wwwaayyyy before ARod is ready to go.....   

Talking about closer to the ASB.  For a 37 year old who was already breaking down.  No thanks, I won't be drafting him at all.....

What a disaster for the Yankees.  He's toxic now and has no type of trade value...

[klove42]

Patrick Bateman, on 03 December 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

phizzics, on 03 December 2012 - 01:25 PM, said:

And of course I wrote the above without reading the timetable for his recovery. June? Pass...

As an aside, if I had to make a wild prediction, the people who will find him most useful will be those who draft Longoria. ARod's return will probably coincide with Longoria's first extended DL visit.

I disagree.  Longoria's first extended DL visit will come wwwaayyyy before ARod is ready to go.....   

Talking about closer to the ASB.  For a 37 year old who was already breaking down.  No thanks, I won't be drafting him at all.....

What a disaster for the Yankees.  He's toxic now and has no type of trade value...

I hate this man. I hope he is not drafted at all in any leagues.

[LyondellBasell]

it feels like he should be retired by now.

i predict he hangs it up before his contract runs out. it won't be worth it to him. being a financial joke to the nyc and national media and a burden your employer and teammates is not worth the pride of anyone who is already set for life.

Edited by LyondellBasell, 04 December 2012 - 11:36 AM.

[damana]

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

[TheJRod2006]

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

it feels like he should be retired by now.

i predict he hangs it up before his contract runs out. it won't be worth it to him. being a financial joke to the nyc and national media and a burden your employer and teammates is not worth the pride of anyone who is already set for life.

I'm sure you would also walk away from 114 million guaranteed as to not be a burden

damana, on 04 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

I understand that to mean that the Yankees 'might' be reimbursed. I would still think A-Rod's contract counts towards payroll, and hence, the self-imposed 189 million cap starting in 2014

[LyondellBasell]

TheJRod2006, on 04 December 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

it feels like he should be retired by now.

i predict he hangs it up before his contract runs out. it won't be worth it to him. being a financial joke to the nyc and national media and a burden your employer and teammates is not worth the pride of anyone who is already set for life.

I'm sure you would also walk away from 114 million guaranteed as to not be a burden

damana, on 04 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

I understand that to mean that the Yankees 'might' be reimbursed. I would still think A-Rod's contract counts towards payroll, and hence, the self-imposed 189 million cap starting in 2014

it's hard to imagine him leaving money on the table, but i just can't see him playing for five more years. FIVE MORE! can you visualize it? I can't. I just can't. A guy who is toast has one season, then one more season, and then another season, and then another season, and then one more season to go! '12, '13, '14, '15, '16. '17 ... this will actually happen? something will give.

Edited by LyondellBasell, 04 December 2012 - 11:34 PM.

[dzemens]

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

TheJRod2006, on 04 December 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

it feels like he should be retired by now.

i predict he hangs it up before his contract runs out. it won't be worth it to him. being a financial joke to the nyc and national media and a burden your employer and teammates is not worth the pride of anyone who is already set for life.

I'm sure you would also walk away from 114 million guaranteed as to not be a burden

damana, on 04 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

I understand that to mean that the Yankees 'might' be reimbursed. I would still think A-Rod's contract counts towards payroll, and hence, the self-imposed 189 million cap starting in 2014

it's hard to imagine him leaving money on the table, but i just can't see him playing for five more years. FIVE MORE! can you visualize it? I can't. I just can't. A guy who is toast has one season, then one more season, and then another season, and then another season, and then one more season to go! '12, '13, '14, '15, '16. '17 ... this will actually happen? something will give.

I assume theres no such thing as buyouts in MLB like there are in the NBA? If there is hed be a prime candidate. This situation also goes to highlight the problem with guaranteed contracts in baseball, that said the teams sign them to the deals so they know the risk but man its a bad system theyve created.

[Chubbles]

Everyone knew his deal was terrible from the beginning, I feel like not too far out that Pujols will be joining him

[ChrisFarley]

He could be a bargain for a 2nd half run.

[TheJRod2006]

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:34 PM, said:

TheJRod2006, on 04 December 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

LyondellBasell, on 04 December 2012 - 11:33 AM, said:

it feels like he should be retired by now.

i predict he hangs it up before his contract runs out. it won't be worth it to him. being a financial joke to the nyc and national media and a burden your employer and teammates is not worth the pride of anyone who is already set for life.

I'm sure you would also walk away from 114 million guaranteed as to not be a burden

damana, on 04 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

I understand that to mean that the Yankees 'might' be reimbursed. I would still think A-Rod's contract counts towards payroll, and hence, the self-imposed 189 million cap starting in 2014

it's hard to imagine him leaving money on the table, but i just can't see him playing for five more years. FIVE MORE! can you visualize it? I can't. I just can't. A guy who is toast has one season, then one more season, and then another season, and then another season, and then one more season to go! '12, '13, '14, '15, '16. '17 ... this will actually happen? something will give.

I suppose the Yankees could always just DFA, but A-Rod would still get all of that money and the Yanks would get nothing aside from having him off the roster. I don't think the team is ready to admit that it's a sunk cost at this point.

Chubbles, on 05 December 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

Everyone knew his deal was terrible from the beginning, I feel like not too far out that Pujols will be joining him

I'll never understand why the Yankees felt the need to give him that many years and that much money when they were bidding against themselves. So stupid.

[Theoneupper]

No, Thank you. Guy was great for many years, but now hes terrible.

[dzemens]

Surgery now set for mid January. I dont think theres anyone out there who would take a chance on him now.

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Alex Rodriguez said Saturday that he will undergo left hip surgery in "mid-January."
It's still not an exact date, but the procedure is expected to require a 4-6 month recovery timetable, so Rodriguez could be out until around midseason. At age 37, there's a chance the rehab process could take longer. With A-Rod sidelined, the Yankees currently have a one-year, $12 million offer on the table for Kevin Youkilis, and are looking at Jack Hannahan as a possible stop-gap option.

Source: Associated Press
Dec 8 - 12:53 PM

[Suikoden]

I really wanted to see Arod break some records but at this point, looks like the only thing he will break is a medicine bottle

[Timmah!]

damana, on 04 December 2012 - 01:57 PM, said:

ESPN New York's Wallace Matthews reports that the Yankees are insured for a good portion of the remaining $114 million left on Alex Rodriguez's contract.
Rodriguez will still get his money no matter what, but the Yankees could recoup at least 75 percent and up to 100 percent of the money owed. However, the veteran third baseman would have to miss at least a full season before the team could begin to collect on the policy. It's unclear whether the A-Rod's contract is ensured for its entire length, which runs through 2017, or whether any exclusions were written into the policy that would void it in the event of certain injuries. But it's a relevant topic in light of his looming hip surgery. Source: ESPN New York Dec. 4 - 1:49 pm et

Very interesting!  Could this open the door for Arod being out as the Yankees 3rd baseman and help the Yanks get younger in the process or does this mean nothing for the long term prospects of the team and their quest to avoid the luxary tax?

We saw this in Philly back on the mid-90's with Lenny Dykstra. He'd show up for spring training, do some light work and hitting, declare his back still hurt and the team would collect the insurance. He did that 2-3 years running, IIRC.