#1 overall pick? Can he duplicate or even improve on his 2012 rookie season?
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:18 PM
I'm pretty confident that if given the opportunity in 3 months or so, I'd take Braun over Trout. I think they have comparable upsides but Braun's floor is higher. I would take Miggy over Trout as well.
after Braun and Miggy, I'm on board. there are a lot of question marks with the rest of the pack. I think Kemp should be up there. never like guys with hammy injuries, but prior to that injury Kemp was looking like the best hitter in baseball and it wasn't close. now he's actually got a real lineup around him and the Dodgers will probably throw some more money at some FAs to bolster the offense around Kemp.
after Braun and Miggy, I'm on board. there are a lot of question marks with the rest of the pack. I think Kemp should be up there. never like guys with hammy injuries, but prior to that injury Kemp was looking like the best hitter in baseball and it wasn't close. now he's actually got a real lineup around him and the Dodgers will probably throw some more money at some FAs to bolster the offense around Kemp.
Edited by jsp2014, 04 December 2012 - 12:18 PM.
I will never draft Francisco Liriano ever again.
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I have him in a keeper, but I'd probably grab him 2nd overall in a redraft behind Ryan Braun. I agree that Braun is more of a sure bet, I want Trout to be the best in the game so bad but I just don't think he is quite yet. I hope he uses the fact that he didn't get MVP as motivation to do what he did last year but better hahaha...
[size=3]12-team 5x5 h2h Redraft:[/size]
[size=3]C Brian McCann[/size]
[size=3]1B Paul Goldschmidt[/size]
[size=3]2B Jedd Gyorko[/size]
[size=3]3B Todd Frazier[/size]
[size=3]SS Ian Desmond[/size]
[size=3]2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera[/size]
[size=3]1B/3B Mitch Moreland[/size]
[size=3]OF Ryan Braun[/size]
[size=3]OF Jason Heyward[/size]
[size=3]OF B.J. Upton[/size]
[size=3]OF Alfonso Soriano[/size]
[size=3]DH Paul Konerko[/size]
[size=3]DL: Utley, Hart[/size]
[size=3]SP Felix Hernandez, Cole Hamels, Max Scherzer, Mike Minor, Jeff Samardzija, Dan Haren, Chris Tillman, Josh Johnson, David Phelps, Brandon Beachy (DL). RP: Ernesto Frieri, Bobby Parnell, Valverde, Mujica, Bailey[/size]
[size=3]C Brian McCann[/size]
[size=3]1B Paul Goldschmidt[/size]
[size=3]2B Jedd Gyorko[/size]
[size=3]3B Todd Frazier[/size]
[size=3]SS Ian Desmond[/size]
[size=3]2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera[/size]
[size=3]1B/3B Mitch Moreland[/size]
[size=3]OF Ryan Braun[/size]
[size=3]OF Jason Heyward[/size]
[size=3]OF B.J. Upton[/size]
[size=3]OF Alfonso Soriano[/size]
[size=3]DH Paul Konerko[/size]
[size=3]DL: Utley, Hart[/size]
[size=3]SP Felix Hernandez, Cole Hamels, Max Scherzer, Mike Minor, Jeff Samardzija, Dan Haren, Chris Tillman, Josh Johnson, David Phelps, Brandon Beachy (DL). RP: Ernesto Frieri, Bobby Parnell, Valverde, Mujica, Bailey[/size]
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:43 PM
Here is most runs scored in single season:
Runs scored
Player Team Runs Season
Babe Ruth New York Yankees 177 1921
Lou Gehrig New York Yankees 167 1936
Lou Gehrig New York Yankees 163 1931
Babe Ruth New York Yankees 163 1928
Chuck Klein Philadelphia Phillies 158 1930
Who thinks Trout will be there this season with Pujols&Hamilton behind him?
Runs scored
Player Team Runs Season
Babe Ruth New York Yankees 177 1921
Lou Gehrig New York Yankees 167 1936
Lou Gehrig New York Yankees 163 1931
Babe Ruth New York Yankees 163 1928
Chuck Klein Philadelphia Phillies 158 1930
Who thinks Trout will be there this season with Pujols&Hamilton behind him?
Edited by det_tigers, 13 December 2012 - 02:46 PM.
10 Teams - H2H - 5x5 Cats
C: M.Montero
1B: J.Votto
2B: B.Philips
3B: D.Wright
SS: A.Cabrera
OF: C.Gonzalez - M.Cabrera - N.Cruz
Util+Bench: P.Konerko - C.Crawford - T.Hunter - C.Headley - D.Ortiz - A.Hill (DL)
SP: F.Hernandez - G.Gonzalez - M.Bumgarner - CJ Wilson - Z.Greinke - R.Halladay - J.Beckett - C.Bucholz - J.Samardzija
RP: J.Grilli
12 Teams - H2H - 6x6 Cats
C: M.Montero
1B: P.Fielder
2B: A.Hill
3B: A.Ramirez
SS: M.Prado
OF: J.Ellsbury - S-S Choo - J.Bruce
Util+Bench: C.Beltran - C.Johnson - J.Segura - M.Teixeira(DL) - C.Hart(DL)
SP: S.Strasburg - M.Cain - M.Harvey - A.Ogando - P.Maholm - P.Corbin - D.Fister - T.Cingrani - B.Beachy(DL)
RP: F.Rodney - J.Valverde
C: M.Montero
1B: J.Votto
2B: B.Philips
3B: D.Wright
SS: A.Cabrera
OF: C.Gonzalez - M.Cabrera - N.Cruz
Util+Bench: P.Konerko - C.Crawford - T.Hunter - C.Headley - D.Ortiz - A.Hill (DL)
SP: F.Hernandez - G.Gonzalez - M.Bumgarner - CJ Wilson - Z.Greinke - R.Halladay - J.Beckett - C.Bucholz - J.Samardzija
RP: J.Grilli
12 Teams - H2H - 6x6 Cats
C: M.Montero
1B: P.Fielder
2B: A.Hill
3B: A.Ramirez
SS: M.Prado
OF: J.Ellsbury - S-S Choo - J.Bruce
Util+Bench: C.Beltran - C.Johnson - J.Segura - M.Teixeira(DL) - C.Hart(DL)
SP: S.Strasburg - M.Cain - M.Harvey - A.Ogando - P.Maholm - P.Corbin - D.Fister - T.Cingrani - B.Beachy(DL)
RP: F.Rodney - J.Valverde
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 02:53 PM
Could be a pretty special year with Pujols, Hamilton, Trumbo, and Morales all behind him in that lineup. Wow. Kudos to the Angels.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 09:30 PM
Doctor L, on 13 December 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:
Could be a pretty special year with Pujols, Hamilton, Trumbo, and Morales all behind him in that lineup. Wow. Kudos to the Angels.
That's a great lineup. I really love trout even more this year, and I don't think pujols will get off to that slow start like he did last year.
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Posted 13 December 2012 - 11:24 PM
trout is my first
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SP- Kershaw, Cain,Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman, RP- Parnell, Perkins, Veras, Gregerson, Henderson, Reynolds DL- Eaton and Putz
Trades (Gave/Got): Darvish, Chapman, Altuve - Kemp, Cain, Uggla, McCann
Carlos Gomez, Lohse, Voggelsong, Boggs - Heyward, Coco Crisp (days before Gomez exploded..) Seager, Ozuna - Rutledge, Parnell (lost Putz, had to get another closer)
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C- Wieters 1B- Napoli/Laroche 2B- Phillips 3B-Longoria SS-A. Escobar LF- Crisp CF- Trout RF-JUp OF-CarGo 2.0 Util-Dunn/L.Cain Bench: Gattis, LeMahieu, Eaton
SP- Lester, Kuroda, Gallardo, Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman RP- Kimbrel, Chapman, D Robertson, Escalona DL- Ogando and Putz
SP- Kershaw, Cain,Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman, RP- Parnell, Perkins, Veras, Gregerson, Henderson, Reynolds DL- Eaton and Putz
Trades (Gave/Got): Darvish, Chapman, Altuve - Kemp, Cain, Uggla, McCann
Carlos Gomez, Lohse, Voggelsong, Boggs - Heyward, Coco Crisp (days before Gomez exploded..) Seager, Ozuna - Rutledge, Parnell (lost Putz, had to get another closer)
Team 2 R, H, HR, RBI, BB, K, TB, AVG, OPS, NSB, SB%, W, L, CG, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP, KBB, SV%, QS, NSV
C- Wieters 1B- Napoli/Laroche 2B- Phillips 3B-Longoria SS-A. Escobar LF- Crisp CF- Trout RF-JUp OF-CarGo 2.0 Util-Dunn/L.Cain Bench: Gattis, LeMahieu, Eaton
SP- Lester, Kuroda, Gallardo, Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman RP- Kimbrel, Chapman, D Robertson, Escalona DL- Ogando and Putz
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 12:16 AM
Suikoden, on 13 December 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:
trout is my first
lucky! were you his first too?
Edited by jsp2014, 14 December 2012 - 12:17 AM.
I will never draft Francisco Liriano ever again.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 02:57 PM
Obviously, I love the Angels getting Hamilton and how that impacts Trout's runs potential. If everything breaks right for him, 150 is certainly doable.
Do you really care who is on my team? I have Mike Trout and Arian Foster in keeper leagues in their respective sports.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:26 PM
I'd go Braun first, then Trout. But Trout would be tempting. Does sophomore slump apply to baseball?
Yahoo 10 Team H2H 5x5
C- Buster Posey
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Jason Kipnis
SS- Troy Tulowitzki
3B- Mark Trumbo
OF- Mike Trout, Starling Marte, Jay Bruce
UT- Aramis Ramirez, Chase Utley
Bench- LaRoche, Morse, Frazier
SP- Chris Sale, Zack Greinke, Brandon Morrow, Jeff Samardzija, Brandon Beachy, Hyun Jin Ryu, Gausman
DL- Jered Weaver
RP- Joe Nathan, Tom Wilhelmsen, Mujica
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C- Buster Posey
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3B- Mark Trumbo
OF- Mike Trout, Starling Marte, Jay Bruce
UT- Aramis Ramirez, Chase Utley
Bench- LaRoche, Morse, Frazier
SP- Chris Sale, Zack Greinke, Brandon Morrow, Jeff Samardzija, Brandon Beachy, Hyun Jin Ryu, Gausman
DL- Jered Weaver
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:37 PM
Jmadtown, on 14 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:
I'd go Braun first, then Trout. But Trout would be tempting. Does sophomore slump apply to baseball?
Yes. Just look at Eric Hosmer. However it doesn't apply to superhumans. Trout is immortal to it.
11 team NL only auction league. $260 cap. Roto scoring. OnRoto. Keepers in black.
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:45 PM
baltimore_boy, on 14 December 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:
Jmadtown, on 14 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:
I'd go Braun first, then Trout. But Trout would be tempting. Does sophomore slump apply to baseball?
Yes. Just look at Eric Hosmer. However it doesn't apply to superhumans. Trout is immortal to it.
I don't see Trout slowing down next year either. Given who he has hitting behind him.
Yahoo 10 Team H2H 5x5
C- Buster Posey
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Jason Kipnis
SS- Troy Tulowitzki
3B- Mark Trumbo
OF- Mike Trout, Starling Marte, Jay Bruce
UT- Aramis Ramirez, Chase Utley
Bench- LaRoche, Morse, Frazier
SP- Chris Sale, Zack Greinke, Brandon Morrow, Jeff Samardzija, Brandon Beachy, Hyun Jin Ryu, Gausman
DL- Jered Weaver
RP- Joe Nathan, Tom Wilhelmsen, Mujica
2012 Fantasy Baseball Champion-12 Team-H2H-5x5
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C- Buster Posey
1B- Paul Goldschmidt
2B- Jason Kipnis
SS- Troy Tulowitzki
3B- Mark Trumbo
OF- Mike Trout, Starling Marte, Jay Bruce
UT- Aramis Ramirez, Chase Utley
Bench- LaRoche, Morse, Frazier
SP- Chris Sale, Zack Greinke, Brandon Morrow, Jeff Samardzija, Brandon Beachy, Hyun Jin Ryu, Gausman
DL- Jered Weaver
RP- Joe Nathan, Tom Wilhelmsen, Mujica
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 08:07 AM
Jmadtown, on 14 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:
I'd go Braun first, then Trout. But Trout would be tempting. Does sophomore slump apply to baseball?
speed never slump's
Edited by linedrivemachine, 16 December 2012 - 08:09 AM.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 01:07 PM
Braun, Miggy, Trout. Unless you play in a league that uses specific LF, RF, CF....then I'd go trout #1
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 03:56 PM
linedrivemachine, on 16 December 2012 - 08:07 AM, said:
Jmadtown, on 14 December 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:
I'd go Braun first, then Trout. But Trout would be tempting. Does sophomore slump apply to baseball?
speed never slump's
Except when it tweaks a hamstring
I will never draft Francisco Liriano ever again.
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So would a "sophomore slump" for Trout be something along the lines of 16 HRs, 30 steals, 90 runs, .280 BA? I'll take those numbers for a "slump".
10 team, 20 player, keeper league
C: V. Martinez
1B: Morneau
2B: M. Ellis
SS: A. Simmons
3B: Longoria
OF: Kemp, A Gordon, Mike Trout
Util: A. Beltre S. Marte, G. Jones
Bench: S. Perez, Oscar Taveras
SP: Mike Minor, Jake Peavy, Lincecum, Latos, Brett Anderson, Quintana, Hellickson, Milone, Haren, Hultzen, Wheeler, Gausman
RP: K. Jansen, J. Henderson, Janssen
DL: Stanton, Hanley, Kinsler
C: V. Martinez
1B: Morneau
2B: M. Ellis
SS: A. Simmons
3B: Longoria
OF: Kemp, A Gordon, Mike Trout
Util: A. Beltre S. Marte, G. Jones
Bench: S. Perez, Oscar Taveras
SP: Mike Minor, Jake Peavy, Lincecum, Latos, Brett Anderson, Quintana, Hellickson, Milone, Haren, Hultzen, Wheeler, Gausman
RP: K. Jansen, J. Henderson, Janssen
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 06:02 PM
Mastermind77, on 19 December 2012 - 12:45 PM, said:
So would a "sophomore slump" for Trout be something along the lines of 16 HRs, 30 steals, 90 runs, .280 BA? I'll take those numbers for a "slump".
That would be a sophomore disaster, but scarily enough that's still respectable if he does that. I just can't see Trout slumping to the point where he's not a top 3 player on pretty much every roster he's on.
[size=3]12-team 5x5 h2h Redraft:[/size]
[size=3]C Brian McCann[/size]
[size=3]1B Paul Goldschmidt[/size]
[size=3]2B Jedd Gyorko[/size]
[size=3]3B Todd Frazier[/size]
[size=3]SS Ian Desmond[/size]
[size=3]2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera[/size]
[size=3]1B/3B Mitch Moreland[/size]
[size=3]OF Ryan Braun[/size]
[size=3]OF Jason Heyward[/size]
[size=3]OF B.J. Upton[/size]
[size=3]OF Alfonso Soriano[/size]
[size=3]DH Paul Konerko[/size]
[size=3]DL: Utley, Hart[/size]
[size=3]SP Felix Hernandez, Cole Hamels, Max Scherzer, Mike Minor, Jeff Samardzija, Dan Haren, Chris Tillman, Josh Johnson, David Phelps, Brandon Beachy (DL). RP: Ernesto Frieri, Bobby Parnell, Valverde, Mujica, Bailey[/size]
[size=3]C Brian McCann[/size]
[size=3]1B Paul Goldschmidt[/size]
[size=3]2B Jedd Gyorko[/size]
[size=3]3B Todd Frazier[/size]
[size=3]SS Ian Desmond[/size]
[size=3]2B/SS Asdrubal Cabrera[/size]
[size=3]1B/3B Mitch Moreland[/size]
[size=3]OF Ryan Braun[/size]
[size=3]OF Jason Heyward[/size]
[size=3]OF B.J. Upton[/size]
[size=3]OF Alfonso Soriano[/size]
[size=3]DH Paul Konerko[/size]
[size=3]DL: Utley, Hart[/size]
[size=3]SP Felix Hernandez, Cole Hamels, Max Scherzer, Mike Minor, Jeff Samardzija, Dan Haren, Chris Tillman, Josh Johnson, David Phelps, Brandon Beachy (DL). RP: Ernesto Frieri, Bobby Parnell, Valverde, Mujica, Bailey[/size]
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Now I'm going to ask the newbie question but it could be enlightening to those who may fear questioning the faith.
Now we know that Trout was amazingly spectacular last year. But can someone explain beyond gut check feelings why it seems so impossible for Trout, barring injury, is going to have a "bad" year? I mean, we've seen hot players have bad years. Wright is a perfect example. This guy has been up for one full year. What makes him such a lock pick as potentially the best pick in the year?
Now we know that Trout was amazingly spectacular last year. But can someone explain beyond gut check feelings why it seems so impossible for Trout, barring injury, is going to have a "bad" year? I mean, we've seen hot players have bad years. Wright is a perfect example. This guy has been up for one full year. What makes him such a lock pick as potentially the best pick in the year?
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:39 PM
Thespis721, on 19 December 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:
Now I'm going to ask the newbie question but it could be enlightening to those who may fear questioning the faith.
Now we know that Trout was amazingly spectacular last year. But can someone explain beyond gut check feelings why it seems so impossible for Trout, barring injury, is going to have a "bad" year? I mean, we've seen hot players have bad years. Wright is a perfect example. This guy has been up for one full year. What makes him such a lock pick as potentially the best pick in the year?
Now we know that Trout was amazingly spectacular last year. But can someone explain beyond gut check feelings why it seems so impossible for Trout, barring injury, is going to have a "bad" year? I mean, we've seen hot players have bad years. Wright is a perfect example. This guy has been up for one full year. What makes him such a lock pick as potentially the best pick in the year?
Mainly because of the speed he has. Even if his bat is cold, he can still get on base and steal a base or two to be valuable. When he is hot, he gets you homers/rbi's/runs, when he is cold, he still gets you steals.
11 team NL only auction league. $260 cap. Roto scoring. OnRoto. Keepers in black.
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
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