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#1 andyr1287

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:06 PM

I offered Jameer Nelson and Joe Johnson for Kyrie Irving and the owner came back with Jameer, Joe and Iguodala for Irving, Nene and Jack. What do you guys think, I'm thinking thats quite a steep price. Should I counter with something different, I want a pretty fair trade.

This is his team, (my team is in the sig below).
Shved
Jack
DeRozan
Nene
B. Lopez
Batum
Bargnani
Thompson
Pekovic
Paul
Irving
Horford
G. Davis
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SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Nicolas Batum
PF: Jeff Green
C: Roy Hibbert
G: Eric Bledsoe
F: Trevor Ariza
UT: Arron Afflalo
UT: Kyle Lowry
UT: Eric Gordon

Bench: Larry Sanders
Bench: John Henson
Bench: Brandon Knight

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#2 l0st1

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

I'd try and swap Jack out for another guard like Thompson or Derozan if you don't care about threes.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:08 PM

Jack's been playing pretty damn good. Nelson has as well. So that's a wash. I don't like Iggy or Nene, so that's a wash. I think I like Nene better though. Joe Johnson for Irving seems pretty damn fair. I would do the trade if I needed to. There's really no winner. I like Irving hurt better than Johnson though.

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#4 l0st1

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:17 PM

You like Nene over Iggy???!!! Seriously?


Iggy is a MUCH better fantasy player and that's not even counting Nene's HUGE injury risk. And did you seriously say Joe Johnson for Irving is fair? Irving is a top 10 talent and JJ is slowly fading. I'd say probably 4-5th round.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:26 PM

I just don't like Iggy maybe that's a bias kind of thing. I think Nene gets better % and and To. I'll agree Iggy's better, but the fact that he's getting Irving doesn't matter. Ya, Johnson could be better. He's had some moments. At the moment it's fair because of the fact Irving's injured. The longer he waits the harder it gets to pull off the deal.

#6 andyr1287

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:34 PM

I have until tomorrow to decide (the guy that offered this is very knowledgeable so it makes me wonder), and by the way there are no TO's in my league.

More feedback would be appreciated, thanks!

Edited by andyr1287, 04 December 2012 - 03:34 PM.

My Roster:
PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Nicolas Batum
PF: Jeff Green
C: Roy Hibbert
G: Eric Bledsoe
F: Trevor Ariza
UT: Arron Afflalo
UT: Kyle Lowry
UT: Eric Gordon

Bench: Larry Sanders
Bench: John Henson
Bench: Brandon Knight

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#7 l0st1

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:38 PM

I wouldn't do it with the way it's currently structured.

Irving is out for atleast 2 more weeks so that has to be factored in as well but currently you are giving up too much IMO.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

Why sell Irving short now? You've held him through this much of the missed time.

Keep Kyrie.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:45 PM

At first glance I like the Irving side. He is the only true stud in the trade. Johnson and Iggy are the next best 2 though. I think u wait a week before reconsidering. I hate trading for hurt players. Besides Nene as a GTD everyday gets old. Jam on ur side is in that same boat also.
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F Kawhi*, Giannis*, Jeremy Lamb, Jeff Green, Farried*
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#10 roto1982

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

You are giving up too much in that scenario

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

I wouldnt trade Irving man, you lack PG's and the ones you are getting in exchange only Nelson is solid. Irving is set to comeback in two weeks, maybe less and with the possibility that Varejao could be traded, the offensive charge will go to Irving. Joe Johnson isn't playing that good either, I wouldn't trade a first rounder unless I got a first rounder in return.
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SG: Eric Bledsoe
G: Jeff Teague
SF: Jeff Green
PF: Kevin Love
F: Anthony Davis
C: Andre Drummond
C: Jonas Valanciunas
Util: Thaddeus Young
Util: Terrence Jones
Util: Victor Oladipo
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BN: Larry Sanders

#12 andyr1287

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:54 PM

Irving is not on my side

My side: Iguodala, Johson, Nelson

Other team: Irving, Nene, Jack

This is my team
PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: James Harden
SF: Andre Iguodala
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Omer Asik
G: Damian Lillard
F: Joe Johnson
UT: Derrick Favors
UT: JJ Redick
UT: Jameer Nelson

Bench: Javale McGee
Bench: Ricky Rubio
Bench: Al-Farouq Aminu

Edited by andyr1287, 04 December 2012 - 03:59 PM.

My Roster:
PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Nicolas Batum
PF: Jeff Green
C: Roy Hibbert
G: Eric Bledsoe
F: Trevor Ariza
UT: Arron Afflalo
UT: Kyle Lowry
UT: Eric Gordon

Bench: Larry Sanders
Bench: John Henson
Bench: Brandon Knight

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#13 jvalleD

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:00 PM

Westbrook and Irving would be a killer combo, two first round PG's is a great deal, plus you still have Lillard. Nene will help you with rebounds but he's injury risk and Jack is starting to pick up his game but I dont trust him much unless Curry gets hurt. I'd definitely do the trade to be honest, but its on you.
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PG: Mike Conley
SG: Eric Bledsoe
G: Jeff Teague
SF: Jeff Green
PF: Kevin Love
F: Anthony Davis
C: Andre Drummond
C: Jonas Valanciunas
Util: Thaddeus Young
Util: Terrence Jones
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BN: Isaiah Thomas
BN: Larry Sanders

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:04 PM

Don't do it....Your giving up too much. Jack and NeNe definitely not
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Al Jeff
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Drummond
Batum
Terrance Jones
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Larry Sanders

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

if your willing to loose some depth then go ahead and do it. your getting the possibly best pg or one of the best



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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

Althought I'm a huge Irving fan, had him last year and he was unreallll. I wouldn't do it. Your giving up too much.
10 team h2h - FG%, ft%, pts, rbd, assist, 3ptm, stl, blk, t/o

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G: J. Wall,  B. Knight, Bledsoe, Ariza, D. Waiters
F: KD, Dirk Nowitzki, Tobias Harris, D. Caroll, Pekovic, Pierce
C: Hibbert, Derrick Favors

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G: Hayward,  Stephenson, Conley, J. Butler, J. Jack
F: Ariza, Paul George, Tobias Harris, Demarre Caroll, Sullinger
C: Al Jefferson, Pau Gasol, S. Hawes

#17 andyr1287

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:06 PM

What if I asked for Irving and Thompson for Johnson, Iguodala and Nelson? Because if I do this I would only have Aminu at SF. Any suggestions? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have never done a trade before so I don't want this to hurt my team. WHIR!
My Roster:
PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Nicolas Batum
PF: Jeff Green
C: Roy Hibbert
G: Eric Bledsoe
F: Trevor Ariza
UT: Arron Afflalo
UT: Kyle Lowry
UT: Eric Gordon

Bench: Larry Sanders
Bench: John Henson
Bench: Brandon Knight

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#18 tone-stacks

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:08 PM

He's not gonna do that
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Larry Sanders

#19 andyr1287

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:09 PM

I guess I just better decline then, I would rather have an all around solid team than a few great players.
My Roster:
PG: Russell Westbrook
SG: Stephen Curry
SF: Nicolas Batum
PF: Jeff Green
C: Roy Hibbert
G: Eric Bledsoe
F: Trevor Ariza
UT: Arron Afflalo
UT: Kyle Lowry
UT: Eric Gordon

Bench: Larry Sanders
Bench: John Henson
Bench: Brandon Knight

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#20 RZAY

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:34 PM

I like Irving and Klay deal better, you are getting one 1st round player one 4th round for iggy (3rd or 4th), Johneson(6th or 7th) and nelson who is an injury prone. However you have pretty good G's but you are not that deep in your front court, Favors's injury dosn't seem really good and McGee's future is not clear.
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SG: Wes Matthews, Oladipo
SF: Jeff Green, Webster, Vince Carter
PF: A.Davis, Markieff Morris
C: Al Horford, Roy Hibbert, Miles Plumlee

Start: 1PG, 1SG, 1G, 1SF, 1PF, 1F, 2C, 2Util

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