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Brett Lawrie 2013 Outlook


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#1 v0dka

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 01:19 AM

So, what do you guys think of Lawrie in 2013? 2012 was suppose to be his breakout year that everyone was hoping for but that didn't happen. Everyone was so high on him last year, I targeted him in all of my leagues and he didn't fall to me in one.
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#2 ChrisFarley

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 02:33 AM

Bit of a free swinger, book got out on him. But boy, when he squares up, boom!

I'd expect a .275-.285 avg, 20-25 homers, 80-90 rbi, 15 sb

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:42 AM

I'm interested in seeing where his ADP ends up. I'd take a gamble on him but he's hard to pencil in as my starting 3B in fantasy.

he put everything on the ground and the power disappeared. his SB success rate was very poor. he can't take a walk. he had very little fantasy value last year so he has pretty far to go to be a top 12 3B.

the lineup is improved, and generally that's a good thing but I think he starts the year hitting 6th-8th rather than at the top like he was for a lot of last year. that's a net negative.

I don't know. I believe in the talent enough to take a shot on him, but he was so bad last year that I don't think I'd take him in the first 10 rounds of a 12-teamer.
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Posted 06 December 2012 - 08:14 PM

I'm interested in seeing where his ADP ends up. I'd take a gamble on him but he's hard to pencil in as my starting 3B in fantasy.

he put everything on the ground and the power disappeared. his SB success rate was very poor. he can't take a walk. he had very little fantasy value last year so he has pretty far to go to be a top 12 3B.

the lineup is improved, and generally that's a good thing but I think he starts the year hitting 6th-8th rather than at the top like he was for a lot of last year. that's a net negative.

I don't know. I believe in the talent enough to take a shot on him, but he was so bad last year that I don't think I'd take him in the first 10 rounds of a 12-teamer.


He could be a steal depending on where he ADP is. I think I would take a shot on him round six or later, but not in the top five rounds. If his ADP is around 80 I think he is a steal there. Hopefully he makes some adjustments to pitching this offseason and matures as a player.
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:40 PM

Is he someone who should be considered in a keeper league? or are we going to see a repeat/only slightly better season out of him?

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 10:13 AM

i really just don't know what he is ... never profiled as a big power guy in the minors until he went to the PCL ... he doesn't steal bags ... he doesn't walk ... hopefully he crushes it in the spring and gets hyped up again so other people reach for him.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:00 PM

Is he someone who should be considered in a keeper league? or are we going to see a repeat/only slightly better season out of him?


I think with moves Toronto made he is a keeper. He will most likely bat 5th behind Reyes, Cabrera, Bautista and Encarnacion.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:23 PM

I think he will be huge this year especially in terms of value. Basically last year he swung and made too much contact out of the strike zone compared to his 1st year. That's why he had such a s---y GB rate that went way up. His first year though he showed a great eye. With a better lineup and less expectations I think he can go back to the patient hitter he was in his first year which means that he'll be hitting pitches hard in the zone. I think Lawrie will hit 25+ homers with 15+ SB with around a 300 average.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

This thread isn't complete without Lawrie's picture

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 06:50 PM

Great debut, mediocre sophmore year... I'm slightly skeptical for this hacker.

Reminds me of the time Gordon Beckham debuted, but went downhill after that.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:09 AM

He could be a steal depending on where he ADP is. I think I would take a shot on him round six or later, but not in the top five rounds. If his ADP is around 80 I think he is a steal there. Hopefully he makes some adjustments to pitching this offseason and matures as a player.

6th round? He was a post 6th rounder last year...I wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

lawrie is the type of player I will ignore and say he will not become what he was suppose to be and then will. he is still young.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

He could be a steal depending on where he ADP is. I think I would take a shot on him round six or later, but not in the top five rounds. If his ADP is around 80 I think he is a steal there. Hopefully he makes some adjustments to pitching this offseason and matures as a player.

6th round? He was a post 6th rounder last year...I wouldn't touch him in the first 12 rounds.


He went around pick 40 in every league I was in last year, and I know closer to draft day people were thinking about him in the early third. I can understand not wanting to go near him in the first 12 rounds given his year last year, but he is also a young player he still has that 20 20 potential from 3B which is huge. He is young, now he just needs to adjust to the pitchers and mature as a player.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

No doubt Lawrie has potential. But I'd rather take a risk on Hosmer personally.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

No doubt Lawrie has potential. But I'd rather take a risk on Hosmer personally.


I can see that, Hosmer should also go later in drafts too.
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Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

No doubt Lawrie has potential. But I'd rather take a risk on Hosmer personally.


What's your projections for both players? The reason I ask is because Lawrie has 3B elgibility and Hosmer is 1B/OF. Traditionally you'd give a nod to a 3B pos over 1B/Of... so curious the project difference to not have the 3B elgibility to give the edge to Lawrie?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:59 PM

This thread isn't complete without Lawrie's picture

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wow. this is not the kinda guy i want on my team. i only draft classy ballplayers.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:00 PM

Watching him,I came to conclusion that his stats from last year are his floor for 2013.I think he will be a lot better cause it was noticeable that he's going through learning process.He lacks those little things that separate those stats from a far better ones.His youth was one of the problem cause he lacked some patience and some of the decisions were pretty suspicious(SB record proves that).He has the speed and power but needs to adapt to be fully effective.I really like him for the next year but I think 2014 will be the year when he explodes.I predict: 283/17/70/20.

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Posted 08 January 2013 - 12:15 PM


This thread isn't complete without Lawrie's picture

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wow. this is not the kinda guy i want on my team. i only draft classy ballplayers.


Clearly you have never won a fantasy league because you have never drafted the great Milton Bradley then.
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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

Lawrie will have a bounce back year, especially with the addition of star players. He was injured too last year which is why his stat line may appear watered down.