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Manny Machado 2013 Outlook


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#1 baltimore_boy

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 09:50 AM

Going to be starting at third base for the O's next year. He showed his promise with 7 homers last year in limited time and he's going to be hitting in a solid O's order. What does his ADP look like?
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 01:15 AM

I'm big on Machado this year but m trying to temper my expectations.  I'm expecting something along the lines of .275-20-75-10.
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Posted 28 December 2012 - 02:13 AM

very exciting young player ... i think he'll have an up an down season, and be tough to stick with from start to finish in shallow leagues.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:05 AM

SS is an especially thin position this year. I think Machado is a decent late round/see how it pans out player. He has loads of talent/ physical ability, but his minor league numbers were pretty vanilla in all categories:

http://www.baseball-...machama01.shtml

But hey he could be like Harper and love playing at a higher level.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 08:10 AM

He'll probably be drafted higher than where I'd draft him based on hype and what Harper and Trout did last year, see: Dustin Ackley last year. But if he slips to the final rounds where people are drafting relievers and bench players, I'll snag him just as a wait and see guy.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:10 AM

He is 3b not SS.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 10:38 AM

View PostArmalite, on 02 January 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

SS is an especially thin position this year. I think Machado is a decent late round/see how it pans out player. He has loads of talent/ physical ability, but his minor league numbers were pretty vanilla in all categories:

http://www.baseball-...machama01.shtml

But hey he could be like Harper and love playing at a higher level.

Manny isn't going to play SS. He's a 3B now. He was always too big to play SS. Unless something happens to Hardy, which even then He may not even shift over, he's not going back to SS. Draft him and play him as a 3B.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:22 PM

I like Machado but he's too young I think this year for standard mixed leagues to count on as a starting 3B.  He profiles as a kid with average power, very good speed, below average eye, but will get the playing time every day.  Better choice in keeper leagues obviously but I would be waiting a year or two on him in re-drafts.

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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

View PostGreenline, on 02 January 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

I like Machado but he's too young I think this year for standard mixed leagues to count on as a starting 3B.  He profiles as a kid with average power, very good speed, below average eye, but will get the playing time every day.  Better choice in keeper leagues obviously but I would be waiting a year or two on him in re-drafts.

Yeah I have a feeling he struggles to start the season and then turns it on towards the second half.

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Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:23 PM

For this of us in keepers, what do you expect from him over the next few years? I know most expect "meh" production this year, but how about in 2014, 2015?
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Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:19 PM

View Post2ndCitySox, on 04 February 2013 - 07:23 PM, said:

For this of us in keepers, what do you expect from him over the next few years? I know most expect "meh" production this year, but how about in 2014, 2015?
If he follows a path similar to guys like Heyward and Ian Desmond expect fits and starts at least into next year and 2015 should more likely be the year we see potential meet reality.
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

The hype seems to be low on him as of now even though he is a top prospect. I don't really know what to think of him yet for this year just because he is still so young. I think the power is very real so we could be looking at at least 15 home runs, but I'm not sure he will hit above .260 this year unless he can really improve his plate discipline. He did have a 10.5BB% in AA so maybe he can raise it this year
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Posted 28 February 2013 - 10:56 PM

I think the OBP and plate discipline will improve.  He doesn't really have the approach of a hacker, but the BBs just didn't materialize last season.  I was impressed with him in the playoffs, he was one of the few Oriole hitters who had a sound approach.  He stayed within himself while vets like Jones, Hardy, and Reynolds were swinging at breaking balls in the opposite batter's box.

Wouldn't feel great about having him as my starting 3B, but I'm targeting him at CI in some deeper leagues.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 01:13 AM

He's a couple of years away from being an asset in fantasy.  I suspect the average will be brutal, but his glove will make him valuable for the O's. Unfortunately that will not make anyone who owns him this year feel any better.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostVan Buren Boys, on 28 December 2012 - 01:15 AM, said:

I'm big on Machado this year but m trying to temper my expectations.  I'm expecting something along the lines of .275-20-75-10.

I was thinking 18 and 70, general consensus is around 15 and 65 from what I've seen.  

275 is being generous though.  Only time he's ever hit around that is his first year of A ball, rest of the time was 264 in 800AB.
250ish would be more realistic but hey, you never know.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:08 AM

I would like him a lot more if he was still at SS.  I think right now, he is a little overvalued IMO, I see people on the Bench Coach threads or calling into Fantasy XM shows talking about Machado as keeper or this or that but in very small leagues, like 10 or 12 with no corner spot.  Im not sure he is a starter in those shallower leagues.  

He is very young and wasnt exactly tearing it up when he got the call, but did perform respectably that said, Im not expecting much out of him this year, at best I think you are getting Casey Blake type numbers, so in a redraft stay away or redraft auction call him out and let someone else take him in long-term or deeper leagues - he has some value.

Im thinking .245 14-18HR 65ish RBI and Runs scored.
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Posted 01 March 2013 - 09:18 AM

View Postparrothead, on 01 March 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

I would like him a lot more if he was still at SS.  I think right now, he is a little overvalued IMO, I see people on the Bench Coach threads or calling into Fantasy XM shows talking about Machado as keeper or this or that but in very small leagues, like 10 or 12 with no corner spot.  Im not sure he is a starter in those shallower leagues.  

He is very young and wasnt exactly tearing it up when he got the call, but did perform respectably that said, Im not expecting much out of him this year, at best I think you are getting Casey Blake type numbers, so in a redraft stay away or redraft auction call him out and let someone else take him in long-term or deeper leagues - he has some value.

Im thinking .245 14-18HR 65ish RBI and Runs scored.
I'd agree with most of this.

I wouldn't get excited about him in a redraft with no CI but other types I would. And his real value is in keepers where he may get shifted back to the MI in the next year or two. Roberts' deal is up at the end of this year and Hardy's the year after so there's opportunity there.

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Posted 01 March 2013 - 10:20 AM

View PostMatthias, on 01 March 2013 - 09:18 AM, said:

View Postparrothead, on 01 March 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

I would like him a lot more if he was still at SS.  I think right now, he is a little overvalued IMO, I see people on the Bench Coach threads or calling into Fantasy XM shows talking about Machado as keeper or this or that but in very small leagues, like 10 or 12 with no corner spot.  Im not sure he is a starter in those shallower leagues.  

He is very young and wasnt exactly tearing it up when he got the call, but did perform respectably that said, Im not expecting much out of him this year, at best I think you are getting Casey Blake type numbers, so in a redraft stay away or redraft auction call him out and let someone else take him in long-term or deeper leagues - he has some value.

Im thinking .245 14-18HR 65ish RBI and Runs scored.
I'd agree with most of this.

I wouldn't get excited about him in a redraft with no CI but other types I would. And his real value is in keepers where he may get shifted back to the MI in the next year or two. Roberts' deal is up at the end of this year and Hardy's the year after so there's opportunity there.

If Machado is going to move back to MI, it will be after Hardy leaves.  Machado isn't going to play 2nd and they aren't going to move Hardy off Shortstop as long as he's in Baltimore.  While Machado will more than likely be moved to short after Hardy leaves, it would not surprise me if they just kept him at 3rd.  Roberts will hopefully be replaced by Schoop.
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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:31 AM

Not much on Machado lately....any more projections for 2013?

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 07:52 AM

Pretty stoked to have him as my backup 3b.

Not many backups with his kind of upside.




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