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Giancarlo Stanton 2013 OutlookWill he get out of Miami?


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#1 baltimore_boy

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:03 PM

Stanton has tremendous upside. He can probably easily hit 50 homers and will probably be a threat for 60 in the next few years. But it seems lilke his value is going to be capped this year with a mediocre and joke of a team around him. When will Stanton request a trade (or has he)? He needs to get out of Miami. I don't think there is any doubt that he will be highly coveted if he becomes available, but when or will it happen?

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 04:37 PM

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 11 December 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Stanton has tremendous upside. He can probably easily hit 50 homers and will probably be a threat for 60 in the next few years. But it seems lilke his value is going to be capped this year with a mediocre and joke of a team around him. When will Stanton request a trade (or has he)? He needs to get out of Miami. I don't think there is any doubt that he will be highly coveted if he becomes available, but when or will it happen?

I'm fairly sure he has voiced his displeasure with the Marlins' decisions, but they want the world for him in trade. Hopefully the Marlins can just put something surprising together (they tried with a bunch of stars that didn't work, maybe a bunch of scrubs will???), either way I doubt his value is shot next year because of the team around him. Lets just hope he breaks his early season/April curse this year.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:00 PM

Best young power hitter in the game.  That said, I'll probably avoid him in drafts this year depending on where his ADP ends up.  Miami is probably going to be a trainwreck of a team and they don't have a lot going for them offensively besides Giancarlo.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 06:52 PM

View Postthe_wolfman, on 11 December 2012 - 06:00 PM, said:

Best young power hitter in the game.  That said, I'll probably avoid him in drafts this year depending on where his ADP ends up.  Miami is probably going to be a trainwreck of a team and they don't have a lot going for them offensively besides Giancarlo.

I agree and tried to acquire him in an offseason trade before the Marlins salary dump.  As of now I wouldn't want him for the package that I offered as he will probably get walked more than Barry Bonds with the Giants.  Exciting player but having no support will hurt his value.
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Posted 11 December 2012 - 07:32 PM

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 11 December 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Stanton has tremendous upside. He can probably easily hit 50 homers and will probably be a threat for 60 in the next few years. But it seems lilke his value is going to be capped this year with a mediocre and joke of a team around him. When will Stanton request a trade (or has he)? He needs to get out of Miami. I don't think there is any doubt that he will be highly coveted if he becomes available, but when or will it happen?

Fangraphs addressed this very question a couple of weeks ago, and it's well worth the read: http://www.fangraphs...-even-possible/

I won't spoil it by repeating the conclusion, but it does a nice job of considering his future earning potential through his upcoming arbitration years and what that would cost in terms of a return.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 09:33 AM

Would Ellsbury, Salty and 3 top prospects get it done?
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 09:33 AM, said:

Would Ellsbury, Salty and 3 top prospects get it done?

It's hard to say where Ellsbury is right now.  But if he's anything close to where he was 2 seasons ago then it would easily get it done.

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Posted 14 December 2012 - 05:50 PM

Just saw a speculative article on Stanton to TEX. Just imagine that guy in TEX.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 06:59 PM

As a Stanton owner in an NL-only dynasty, I don't want to imagine him in Arlington.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:36 PM

View Posttucker26, on 14 December 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Just saw a speculative article on Stanton to TEX. Just imagine that guy in TEX.

I believe the article I linked projected his production there as something along the lines of "eleven billion home runs".

Or, many many, many trips around the bases for a long time.
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:09 PM

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.

Most teams should try....I suspect the Marlins aren't exactly looking to give him away right now
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:25 PM

View PostTheJRod2006, on 15 December 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.

Most teams should try....I suspect the Marlins aren't exactly looking to give him away right now

Yeah. Stanton is a top 5 hitter. He has extreme raw power and isn't going to come cheaply. If he is available, I'm sure every team will try. He's someone to buid a team around. Unfortunately, the price is going to be sky high, so it is doubtful he is traded.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:28 PM

View PostTimmah!, on 14 December 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

View Posttucker26, on 14 December 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Just saw a speculative article on Stanton to TEX. Just imagine that guy in TEX.

I believe the article I linked projected his production there as something along the lines of "eleven billion home runs".

Or, many many, many trips around the bases for a long time.

He probably would get tired of going around the bases in Texas.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 09:35 PM

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 15 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostTheJRod2006, on 15 December 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.

Most teams should try....I suspect the Marlins aren't exactly looking to give him away right now

Yeah. Stanton is a top 5 hitter. He has extreme raw power and isn't going to come cheaply. If he is available, I'm sure every team will try. He's someone to buid a team around. Unfortunately, the price is going to be sky high, so it is doubtful he is traded.

Hopefully by the time he is available (which I'm guessing, via trade, is 2015), the Yankees prospects are close to ML ready
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:37 PM

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 15 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostTheJRod2006, on 15 December 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.

Most teams should try....I suspect the Marlins aren't exactly looking to give him away right now

Yeah. Stanton is a top 5 hitter. He has extreme raw power and isn't going to come cheaply. If he is available, I'm sure every team will try. He's someone to buid a team around. Unfortunately, the price is going to be sky high, so it is doubtful he is traded.

Right. But Tex has the dudes to pull it off now. Not likely, but they could offer something crazy.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 10:38 PM

View Posttucker26, on 15 December 2012 - 10:37 PM, said:

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 15 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

View PostTheJRod2006, on 15 December 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

View Postcoleporter, on 14 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

The Sox should try. Unfortunately they won't.

Most teams should try....I suspect the Marlins aren't exactly looking to give him away right now

Yeah. Stanton is a top 5 hitter. He has extreme raw power and isn't going to come cheaply. If he is available, I'm sure every team will try. He's someone to buid a team around. Unfortunately, the price is going to be sky high, so it is doubtful he is traded.

Right. But Tex has the dudes to pull it off now. Not likely, but they could offer something crazy.

I dont think Miami would trade him, barring receiving immediate impact MLB talent and top level prospects.
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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:36 AM

where do you think he'll end up going in drafts? i was ready to consider him as a back of the first round guy. but now when you factor in his team, against his ballpark and injury past, isn't it possible the sentiment becomes really negative and he falls to late second? possible he could fall to the third? I would love him in round 2. round 3 i'd be goin nuts.

edit: just saw that espn has him ranked 16 overall, ahead of the likes of Longoria (20), Strasburg (17), Hamilton (26!) Kershaw (19), Tulo (37), Ellsbury (38), Hanley (34), Pedroia (29), Beltre (30)

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:49 AM

Looking back at his home/road splits, they're not as bad as I thought they might be in terms of the power numbers....and that's factoring in that he missed time as well. He's still only 23, so I gotta think that he hasn't even scratched the surface yet on his potential. LoMo isn't great, but he should be good enough to somewhat protect Stanton in the lineup. I'm still high on Stanton even with the Marlins firesale.
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:27 PM


We make it sound like he had the worlds greatest protection around him last year. The only cog protecting him in the lineup that I see gone is Hanley ramirez's corpse- not exactly someone I'm terrified of pitching to. Stantons done fine with limited protection before. The lineup on the whole got a lot worse, but protection wise immediately before and after his spot in the order I don't see earth shattering downgrades.

View PostTheJRod2006, on 16 December 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

Looking back at his home/road splits, they're not as bad as I thought they might be in terms of the power numbers....and that's factoring in that he missed time as well. He's still only 23, so I gotta think that he hasn't even scratched the surface yet on his potential. LoMo isn't great, but he should be good enough to somewhat protect Stanton in the lineup. I'm still high on Stanton even with the Marlins firesale.

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