After two straight disappointing playoff runs, are the Reds actual contenders this year? On paper, they seem to be pretty good. Rotation headlined by Latos, Cueto, and Chapman and a solid lineup centered around Votto, Phillips, Choo, Bruce, Frazier, and Ludwick. A few questions for the Reds this year:
Will Broxton be successful in the closer role?
Will Chapman's arm hold up for a full year of starting?
Who starts behind the plate?
Does Billy Hamilton eventually fit in some place?
Can Arroyo, Bailey, and Leake follow up decent years to fill in the 4th and 5th starter roles?
Will the lack of depth matter this year?
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Cincinnati Reds 2013 OutlookCan they finally break through?
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, Dec 14 2012 11:11 PM
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Posted 14 December 2012 - 11:11 PM
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 12:05 AM
One other major question is Votto. He was not MVP contender Joey Votto coming down the stretch after the injury. The power just wasnt back yet. I like the Reds, I think the NL is tough but they can be one of the better teams. Going into the playoffs I liked them and Detroit and they looked good the first two games, then Cueto got hurt, Rolen made the error in game 3 and despite the GS by Posey in the decider, they had a lot of good opps and just couldnt get the timely hit to tie or pull ahead.
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Posted 15 December 2012 - 08:51 AM
they do look good on paper. obviously, the chapman to the rotation/broxton to closer decision is the huge one. personally, i would have left Chapman as closer and may have made different decisions than re-sigining Ludwick and Broxton.
could have put Choo in left, gone with Heisey in center and used the ludwick/broxton money to pick up a cf/4th of type guy, a 5th starter to keep Leake as the long man/spot starter ,and less expensive right handed set up guy to complement Marshall and Chapman.
but their bench seems reasonably solid to me- the rotation could be very good- broxton and bullpen depth if anything, plus the managerial stylings of dusty baker, the concerns...
could have put Choo in left, gone with Heisey in center and used the ludwick/broxton money to pick up a cf/4th of type guy, a 5th starter to keep Leake as the long man/spot starter ,and less expensive right handed set up guy to complement Marshall and Chapman.
but their bench seems reasonably solid to me- the rotation could be very good- broxton and bullpen depth if anything, plus the managerial stylings of dusty baker, the concerns...
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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:37 PM
I love The Reds in 2013. I have them pegged as World Series contenders.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:06 PM
With Ludwick gone and Heisey pooping the bed (with Paul being marginally better) - how long before they just call up Billy Hamilton? I have about a dozen Reds blogs on my RSS feed and I check every morning to see if there's even an inkling that Billy will get called up. I just don't understand why it's not even a consideration.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:12 PM
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:
With Ludwick gone and Heisey pooping the bed (with Paul being marginally better) - how long before they just call up Billy Hamilton? I have about a dozen Reds blogs on my RSS feed and I check every morning to see if there's even an inkling that Billy will get called up. I just don't understand why it's not even a consideration.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
He has a .594 OPS in AAA. (.386 over his last 10) Why would they call him up?
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:17 PM
You're forgetting one small detail
Hamilton is sucking horribly in AAA.
Hamilton is sucking horribly in AAA.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:23 PM
Zumayaaaa, on 21 April 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:
With Ludwick gone and Heisey pooping the bed (with Paul being marginally better) - how long before they just call up Billy Hamilton? I have about a dozen Reds blogs on my RSS feed and I check every morning to see if there's even an inkling that Billy will get called up. I just don't understand why it's not even a consideration.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
He has a .594 OPS in AAA. (.386 over his last 10) Why would they call him up?
The 13 steals in 12 games.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:37 PM
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:
Zumayaaaa, on 21 April 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:
With Ludwick gone and Heisey pooping the bed (with Paul being marginally better) - how long before they just call up Billy Hamilton? I have about a dozen Reds blogs on my RSS feed and I check every morning to see if there's even an inkling that Billy will get called up. I just don't understand why it's not even a consideration.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
He has a .594 OPS in AAA. (.386 over his last 10) Why would they call him up?
The 13 steals in 12 games.
Steals are not worth as much in the MLB as they are in Fantasy Baseball. Those Steals with that OPS is just polishing a Turd.. I'm pretty sure its in their Interest to let him Develop more as a hitter in AAA before he makes the leap.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:38 PM
I guess but when you're a WS contender that should be weighed into the equation too. If he gets in scoring position once a game (which he's capable of doing evidenced by his MILB stats) then he's worth taking a chance on. That's a heck of an opportunity for your hitters to have a duck on the pond.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:46 PM
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:
I guess but when you're a WS contender that should be weighed into the equation too. If he gets in scoring position once a game (which he's capable of doing evidenced by his MILB stats) then he's worth taking a chance on. That's a heck of an opportunity for your hitters to have a duck on the pond.
Not all considerations though are for offense. I don't follow the Reds that closely, but are Heisey and Paul (whoever that is) better on the defensive side? Or do you move Choo again to left field and play an untested rookie in CF and let him learn on the job?
Just curious as I was surprised when they didn't call him up right after the injury.
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Posted 21 April 2013 - 10:49 PM
Slatykamora, on 21 April 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:
Zumayaaaa, on 21 April 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 21 April 2013 - 10:06 PM, said:
With Ludwick gone and Heisey pooping the bed (with Paul being marginally better) - how long before they just call up Billy Hamilton? I have about a dozen Reds blogs on my RSS feed and I check every morning to see if there's even an inkling that Billy will get called up. I just don't understand why it's not even a consideration.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
The Phillies have Galvis in the OF, a kid who has never played the OF before, so the lack of experience out there should hardly be the reason. Hamilton has the ability to be a game changer and it's unfortunate they're keeping this kid down and not even considering a call up given how awful the alternatives have been.
He has a .594 OPS in AAA. (.386 over his last 10) Why would they call him up?
The 13 steals in 12 games.
Steals are not worth as much in the MLB as they are in Fantasy Baseball. Those Steals with that OPS is just polishing a Turd.. I'm pretty sure its in their Interest to let him Develop more as a hitter in AAA before he makes the leap.
This. The old adage that you can't steal first base comes into play with Hamilton, right now it doesn't look like he's ready to hit at the MLB level.
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