Once upon a time before the Harpers and Trouts reached the show Heyward was the baseball's prodigy child.
After a disappointing Sophomore season in 2011, Heyward had a strong 2012 campaign where he out produced his draft value last year.
His main problem was his lack of consistency throughout the season. Heyward would get blistering hot for a week or two but then drop off the face of the Earth for a week or two.
Now with another season under his belt and coming into the season at the ripe age of 23 Heyward should be ready to take his game to the next step. He should be more consistent and hit for a higher average this year.
He was 3 HRs shy of a 30 HR 20 SB season last year at the age of 22. Heyward's upside going forward is immense.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 03:39 PM
Those steals to me seem like they will be a career high. I love him to be a 25 HR hitter for decent average and a handful of bags, but his ceiling seems lower to me than Harper and certainly Trout.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:14 PM
I'm high on Heyward for '13 after his 2012 rebound. Most promising was the increase in FB% and decrease in GB%. However, the BB% dropped while the K% worsened.
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
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The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
Sign me up!
The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 04:47 PM
SoundMaster, on 20 December 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:
I'm high on Heyward for '13 after his 2012 rebound. Most promising was the increase in FB% and decrease in GB%. However, the BB% dropped while the K% worsened.
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
Sign me up!
The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
Sign me up!
The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
Tough call Upton or Heyward. I'll go with Heyward because his ADP will be more affordable. But Upton probably out does Heyward overall but I'd think it would be close.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 09:00 AM
PRoSPx, on 20 December 2012 - 04:47 PM, said:
SoundMaster, on 20 December 2012 - 04:14 PM, said:
I'm high on Heyward for '13 after his 2012 rebound. Most promising was the increase in FB% and decrease in GB%. However, the BB% dropped while the K% worsened.
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
Sign me up!
The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
When it's said and done, it's difficult not to imagine a 20/12 floor with realistic expectations of the following numbers, assuming continued development:
.275 avg
.350 OBP
25 jacks
90 runs
90 rbi
20 SB
Sign me up!
The question is this: pound for pound, who would you prefer J-Up or Heyward? (This assumes similar draft positions or auction value, but I may be way off on that.)
Tough call Upton or Heyward. I'll go with Heyward because his ADP will be more affordable. But Upton probably out does Heyward overall but I'd think it would be close.
Both could be top 10 players and I can't say talent wise whom id rather have. But situationally, J-Hey is in a more positive place than after the last year or so of Upton mishandling in AZ.
I'll take J-Hey, two years removed from playing 'hurt for the Chipper'.
He still has MVP potential in him at a very young age.
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Posted 21 December 2012 - 08:25 PM
did he have any DL stints last year? or just some stretches of being banged up? I didn't own him anywhere, didn't pay much attention.
his first two years it seemed he was always day-to-day or DL bound. he's built so wiry too, so i had concerns about durability through 162 games.
his first two years it seemed he was always day-to-day or DL bound. he's built so wiry too, so i had concerns about durability through 162 games.
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Haven't heard much on J.Hey lately...Any news lately? Trying to gauge his trade value
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RyanksN, on 12 February 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:
Haven't heard much on J.Hey lately...Any news lately? Trying to gauge his trade value
He's a hold in all keeper leagues for me. Unless you're going to lose him next year due to league contract / singing settings.
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Posted 12 February 2013 - 12:43 PM
I feel like he will be a monster this year. This is the year he makes the braves his team
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Looks like he's slated to his 2nd for the Braves this season, which does hurt his RBI opportunities, but it makes it much harder for pitchers to pitch around him, and he'll score a ton of runs.
I think a monster season is coming.
I think a monster season is coming.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:07 PM
Power profiles to hit 35+ homers, I'm all in too. BJ Up won't hit in the 2 hole? J Hey 2nd seems to be a waste of his power. Maybe they figure he'll see more fastballs. JHey has an incredible eye too, he's primed to explode.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:43 AM
Looks like the Atlanta manager is trying to go for a RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT thing with Simmons-Heyward-JUpton-Freeman-BJUpton. If Heyward and BJUpton switched, you would have RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT-LEFT-LEFT
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This Atlanta lineup is going to have a huge breakout this year.
Heyward and The Upton Brothers are going to be something special. Plus Freeman, man that lineup has so much potential.
Heyward and The Upton Brothers are going to be something special. Plus Freeman, man that lineup has so much potential.
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LyondellBasell, on 21 December 2012 - 08:25 PM, said:
did he have any DL stints last year? or just some stretches of being banged up? I didn't own him anywhere, didn't pay much attention.
his first two years it seemed he was always day-to-day or DL bound. he's built so wiry too, so i had concerns about durability through 162 games.
his first two years it seemed he was always day-to-day or DL bound. he's built so wiry too, so i had concerns about durability through 162 games.
Don't forget the trainer was quoted to saying either his back muscles or the connective tissue there is built weaker than most people. But he seems to be coping with it well.
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FouLLine, on 26 February 2013 - 01:08 AM, said:
This Atlanta lineup is going to have a huge breakout this year.
Heyward and The Upton Brothers are going to be something special. Plus Freeman, man that lineup has so much potential.
Heyward and The Upton Brothers are going to be something special. Plus Freeman, man that lineup has so much potential.
Just posted in the BJ thread that I wonder what the odds are of all three of them going 30/30 this year.
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Looks like the Atlanta manager is trying to go for a RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT-LEFT-RIGHT thing with Simmons-Heyward-JUpton-Freeman-BJUpton. If Heyward and BJUpton switched, you would have RIGHT-RIGHT-RIGHT-LEFT-LEFT
I'd hit BJ leadoff with Uggla 5th and McCaan 6th but that's just me.
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Yeah I can't understand this fascination with andrelton Simmons. I know he's a good prospect but you're built to win now and have 5-6 better hitters hitting in non-ideal spots bc he is leading off.
I think that leadoff talk for andrelton has quieted since the upton acquisition though
I think that leadoff talk for andrelton has quieted since the upton acquisition though
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Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:34 AM
Hard to argue, though, with those that say BJ isn't an ideal leadoff hitter either, he's still fairly allergic to walks. Seems to me he'd be better suited for the 2 hole and J Hey hitting 3rd would just be ideal. Burner on base ahead of him, mashers behind him, I hope ATL can work it out for him there at #3.
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I think they'll go with Simmons in the first 10-20 games and then see what's next.Braves now have a great offense and they can try different variations.
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It would be nice to see him have a big spring
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