Who to keep - Santana or Headley?
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Runelvys Hernandez
, Dec 23 2012 08:32 PM
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#1
Runelvys Hernandez
Posted 23 December 2012 - 08:32 PM
12 team 6X6 mixed (+OBP and L), $275 cap, 5 keepers. I have 4 no-brainer keepers. They are:
Trout - $7
C. Gonzalez - $11
Cano - $26
Beltre - $18
For my 5th keeper, I have what seems like a no-brainer: Chase Headley at $4. However, I already have a 3B, and catcher is always a thin position. I could keep Carlos Santana (who I love next year) for $10. Should Santana be in considerations for this spot, or should I go with the cheap Headley (who I don't love, but is easily worth $4) and forget it?
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Edited by Runelvys Hernandez, 23 December 2012 - 08:35 PM.
10th year of a 12-team 6X6 (+OBP and Losses) H2H Keeper League (5 keepers, +$3 every year kept, $275 cap, 25-man rosters)
Champions 2007, 2009, 2012
C - R. Doumit ($1)
1B - B. Butler ($33)
2B - R. Cano ($26)
3B - A. Beltre ($18)
SS - B. Zobrist ($22)
OF - C. Gonzalez ($11), M. Trout ($7), R. Braun ($58)
Util - C. Headley ($4), S. Choo ($14), S. Marte ($4)
Bench - A. LaRoche ($11), J. Morneau ($2)
SP - M. Bumgarner ($23), J. Zimmermann ($19), H. Iwakuma ($2), I. Kennedy ($6), T. Hudson ($9), A. Pettitte ($1), W. Chen ($1), A. Cashner ($1)
RP - T. Wilhemsen ($8), A. Reed ($8), D. Hernandez ($1), K. Uehara ($1)
#2
motown magic
Posted 24 December 2012 - 10:29 AM
I like Headley. Plus he will get more at bats . Heres hoping Headley repeats.
#3
Super K
Posted 24 December 2012 - 11:11 AM
Headley did kill it second half last year but I kind of like Santana. Maybe its the PetCo factor but not sure I see Headley repeating those numbers. Santana turned it on in the second half as well and will have an improved lineup around him. Add to the fact your have Beltre, and Santana could be a top 3 at the position..think I`d roll the dice.
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#6Matt Cain,
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Posted 24 December 2012 - 02:30 PM
Headley. He took a huge step forward last year and showed that he is a great hitter. Even better is the fact that he was decent at Petco too, which shows he wasn't a huge fluke. The catcher class is deeper than ever this year, with so many solid starters, it's not necessary to keep Santana. He is extremely streaky and there are so many solid catchers that come later in the draft (McCann, Rosario, Vmart, Perez, Montero (both), Lucroy, Wieters, and Pierzynski). It's not worth keeping Santana unless you think an excess of catchers will be kept.
11 team NL only auction league. $260 cap. Roto scoring. OnRoto. Keepers in black.
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
#5
Ben Edelman
Posted 26 December 2012 - 07:51 AM
Headley. He will regress, but with the fences moving in at Petco, he will probably put up very close to the same numbers. Add to that a chance that he gets traded, and you have a great keeper.
If you desperately want to keep a catcher, you should be able to trade Headley and Santana for a $5 Molina or maybe even a $15 Posey.
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Runelvys Hernandez
Posted 27 December 2012 - 03:44 PM
 Ben Edelman, on 26 December 2012 - 07:51 AM, said:
Headley. He will regress, but with the fences moving in at Petco, he will probably put up very close to the same numbers. Add to that a chance that he gets traded, and you have a great keeper.
If you desperately want to keep a catcher, you should be able to trade Headley and Santana for a $5 Molina or maybe even a $15 Posey.
Great point. Our league does not allow offseason trading, however. I am the commissioner, and tried to get it passed, but since Yahoo is down in the offseason, our league members are concerned with regulating trades in the offseason. So they voted against it. Posey is actually about $15, but his owner is not trading him.
I have to think that in our league, with keeper inflation, Headley will command about $25-28 in the auction. I'm not sure how much people are buying into him. Santana could go from anywhere between $20-30, in my estimation, as one of the best catcher options. Either way, though, I save money on keeping Headley and trying to bid for Santana. I think I'm going with you guys' advice, but keep it coming 
10th year of a 12-team 6X6 (+OBP and Losses) H2H Keeper League (5 keepers, +$3 every year kept, $275 cap, 25-man rosters)
Champions 2007, 2009, 2012
C - R. Doumit ($1)
1B - B. Butler ($33)
2B - R. Cano ($26)
3B - A. Beltre ($18)
SS - B. Zobrist ($22)
OF - C. Gonzalez ($11), M. Trout ($7), R. Braun ($58)
Util - C. Headley ($4), S. Choo ($14), S. Marte ($4)
Bench - A. LaRoche ($11), J. Morneau ($2)
SP - M. Bumgarner ($23), J. Zimmermann ($19), H. Iwakuma ($2), I. Kennedy ($6), T. Hudson ($9), A. Pettitte ($1), W. Chen ($1), A. Cashner ($1)
RP - T. Wilhemsen ($8), A. Reed ($8), D. Hernandez ($1), K. Uehara ($1)
#7
Dodger Blue 88
Posted 27 December 2012 - 07:53 PM
Even though I think Headley overachieved last year I like him for $4.
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ChrisFarley
Posted 30 December 2012 - 09:25 PM
Headley... I see a 30/100 season with 15 sb. Great all round player.
#9
Runelvys Hernandez
Posted 03 January 2013 - 06:34 PM
I know Headley was supposed to be a pretty good prospect coming up but it's taken him a while in the bigs. Any reason for that? Is there reason to think he will build off of 2012?
10th year of a 12-team 6X6 (+OBP and Losses) H2H Keeper League (5 keepers, +$3 every year kept, $275 cap, 25-man rosters)
Champions 2007, 2009, 2012
C - R. Doumit ($1)
1B - B. Butler ($33)
2B - R. Cano ($26)
3B - A. Beltre ($18)
SS - B. Zobrist ($22)
OF - C. Gonzalez ($11), M. Trout ($7), R. Braun ($58)
Util - C. Headley ($4), S. Choo ($14), S. Marte ($4)
Bench - A. LaRoche ($11), J. Morneau ($2)
SP - M. Bumgarner ($23), J. Zimmermann ($19), H. Iwakuma ($2), I. Kennedy ($6), T. Hudson ($9), A. Pettitte ($1), W. Chen ($1), A. Cashner ($1)
RP - T. Wilhemsen ($8), A. Reed ($8), D. Hernandez ($1), K. Uehara ($1)
#10
avswsop91
Posted 03 January 2013 - 08:07 PM
Headley. Think we will have another great season, top5 3B by season's end. Had a great year in SD and if he does get traded he will be even better. Keep your IF studs.
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12 Team Dynasty, Head-to-Head Category League (C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF, Util, 7 P)
My Roster:
C – Willin Rosario, Travis d'Arnaud
1B – Eric Hosmer, Ike Davis
2B – Robinson Cano
3B – Evan Longoria
SS – Hanley Ramirez
OF – Jason Heyward, Jay Bruce, BJ Upton, Austin Jackson, Corey Hart
SP – Jordan Zimmermann, R.A. Dickey, Brandon Morrow, Brett Anderson, Ian Kennedy, Jeff Samardzija, Jonathon Niese, James McDonald, Tyler Skaggs, Dan Straily, Danny Hultzen, Zack Wheeler, Jameson Taillon
RP - (punting)
#11
Neymar
Posted 07 January 2013 - 06:05 PM
Headley
#12
2ndCitySox
Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:02 AM
The Head
I think Santana is overrated. He's a big tease. 3B is pretty rough after the big three (Longoria, Wright, Beltre), and I think C has plenty of decent options.
Roll the dice on Headley.
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#13
Brewcrewfan
Posted 08 January 2013 - 02:23 AM
Headley, not close in my opinion.
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Runelvys Hernandez
Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:25 PM
Overwhelming Headley votes...OK I think I'm being sold...
Edited by Runelvys Hernandez, 08 January 2013 - 10:26 PM.
10th year of a 12-team 6X6 (+OBP and Losses) H2H Keeper League (5 keepers, +$3 every year kept, $275 cap, 25-man rosters)
Champions 2007, 2009, 2012
C - R. Doumit ($1)
1B - B. Butler ($33)
2B - R. Cano ($26)
3B - A. Beltre ($18)
SS - B. Zobrist ($22)
OF - C. Gonzalez ($11), M. Trout ($7), R. Braun ($58)
Util - C. Headley ($4), S. Choo ($14), S. Marte ($4)
Bench - A. LaRoche ($11), J. Morneau ($2)
SP - M. Bumgarner ($23), J. Zimmermann ($19), H. Iwakuma ($2), I. Kennedy ($6), T. Hudson ($9), A. Pettitte ($1), W. Chen ($1), A. Cashner ($1)
RP - T. Wilhemsen ($8), A. Reed ($8), D. Hernandez ($1), K. Uehara ($1)
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Posted 08 January 2013 - 10:40 PM
another Headley vote. I believe Catcher is deeper than expected this year, whereas, at 3b, there is a bigger drop-off after the first 2 tiers in talent for each position.
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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:57 PM
Runelvys Hernandez, on 23 December 2012 - 08:32 PM, said:
12 team 6X6 mixed (+OBP and L), $275 cap, 5 keepers. I have 4 no-brainer keepers. They are:
Trout - $7
C. Gonzalez - $11
Cano - $26
Beltre - $18
For my 5th keeper, I have what seems like a no-brainer: Chase Headley at $4. However, I already have a 3B, and catcher is always a thin position. I could keep Carlos Santana (who I love next year) for $10. Should Santana be in considerations for this spot, or should I go with the cheap Headley (who I don't love, but is easily worth $4) and forget it?
Leave a link for help on yours.
Is is a 1 or 2 Catcher league in terms of active line up?
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#17
SoundMaster
Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:52 PM
FISH ON, on 08 January 2013 - 10:40 PM, said:
another Headley vote. I believe Catcher is deeper than expected this year, whereas, at 3b, there is a bigger drop-off after the first 2 tiers in talent for each position.
Pound for pound, I like Santana more. But catchers are always a risky keep. (Heck, if this wasn't an OBP league, I'd not even seriousy consider Santana here.)
granted, I doubt we see the same production from headily.
#18
Zombies
Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:24 PM
As much as I like Carlos Santana he just can't hit for average...I go with Headley...
NL only 5x5
Rob Brantley $4, Nick Hundley $1, Ike Davis $10, Chase Utley $6, Pablo Sandoval $18,Brandon Crawford $1,Jed Gyorko $11, Aramis Ramirez $16, Carlos Gonzalez $25, Andrew McCutchen $20, Giancarlo Stanton $20, Carl Crawford $17, Brandon Belt $8, Domonic Brown $5, Travis Snider $1
Clayton Kershaw $20, Madison Bumgarner $20, Stephen Strasburg $20, Homer Bailey $4, Jeff Samardzija $1, Aroldis Chapman $37, Edward Mujica $7, Trevor Rosenthal $5, Tony Cingrani $19, James Russell $5
Minors: Travis d'Arnaud $5, Gerrit Cole $5, Christian Yelich $5
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Posted 17 January 2013 - 11:09 AM
Keep Headley....I can seeing him having a better season than last.
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ballfan4141
Posted 17 January 2013 - 12:18 PM
santana. still has not done nothing. his avg. stinks and goes on streaks.
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