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Prince Fielder 2013 OutlookMay be a 2nd rounder?


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#1 PRoSPx

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 03:15 PM

So I've done a few mock drafts (serious ones) now and Prince has gone either 12 or later in all of them.  He went 12, 17, and 24.  The time he went 24 I wanted to take him but passed on him to see where far he would actually go and he went 5 picks later.

It just seems wrong with Prince going as late as 19 with what he has been in the past.  But I can understand the dip in ADP.

As he had his lowest HR total last year in 2012 with 30 since his rookie season in 2006 (28 HRs).  

He had his lowest total of BBs in 2012 with 85 since 2008 when he walked 84 times.

Prince had his lowest total of Runs in 2012 with 83 since his rookie season back in 2006 of 82 runs scored.

But on the plus side Prince had a career best in batting average last year at .313 (.287 career) and a career best in K% at 12.2% (17.6% career).

To me there's a few things that explain this.  First and foremost Comerica Park. It's big and spacious there hard to hit them out.  Secondly I feel Prince knowing he was coming to more of a pitchers park has reworked his game a bit going for more of a singles approach.

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Posted 25 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

I like him. he's pretty safe and kinda boring.

He's gonna be 29 in May. 29 in dog years = 203. 29 in huge fat guy years = I don't know what. It's probly way too crazy early to be looking for signs he's falling to the downside of his career, but i can't help but worry a little bit that at some point soon he'll have to majorly adjust his approach both at the plate and off the field. I debate how a guy so big can keep up what he's doing the way he's doing it. But at the same time, he's such a natural hitter. He can hit any pitch to any field.
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Posted 26 December 2012 - 01:46 AM

View PostLyondellBasell, on 25 December 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

I like him. he's pretty safe and kinda boring.

He's gonna be 29 in May. 29 in dog years = 203. 29 in huge fat guy years = I don't know what. It's probly way too crazy early to be looking for signs he's falling to the downside of his career, but i can't help but worry a little bit that at some point soon he'll have to majorly adjust his approach both at the plate and off the field. I debate how a guy so big can keep up what he's doing the way he's doing it. But at the same time, he's such a natural hitter. He can hit any pitch to any field.

Prince isn't falling on the down side of his career.  He's smack dap in the middle of his prime and still trending upwards.

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Posted 26 December 2012 - 02:42 AM

I will still have him ranked as my 3rd overall 1b.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

After he adjusted to the new league he had a tremendous 2nd half. 260 atbats 15 hr .331 avg 1.006 ops post allstarbreak. I would still take Pujols and Votto slightly ahead of him but the gap between these 3 is very small.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 09:26 PM

He will kill it this year because its an odd year and he will have some protection with V Mart.  This guy is great on even years and outstanding on odd years.  I don't buy into the every other year crap except with him and Beckett.  Due to chicken wings and beer Becketts run could be over though.

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Posted 22 February 2013 - 10:33 PM

He came on strong in the 2nd half and I would assume that means he became more comfortable in the AL and with his new team. I'm not sure what his monthly trends were, but his fly ball % was the lowest of his career BY FAR (excluding his "cup of coffee" in the 2005 season). He's actually seen a downward trend in that category 3 years in a row. That is certainly troubling, but I can't imagine he does anything but raise his 33.3 fb%..his second lowest was 37.1%. Even if he does get back to 37% which is still lower than his career average, that likely adds around 3-5 homers right there. I think that he has a mammoth season. He'll turn 29 mid-season, which as mentioned is right in his prime. I expect he smacks over 35 homers, drives in a ton of runs (110+), and bats around .300. I'm assuming V-Mart is behind him this year, which should also lead to more runs scored as well (Prince is actually a pretty good base-runner for a man as massive and slow footed as him). Any of Votto Pujols Fielder can finish as the #1 1b in my eyes, so if you can get Fielder 3-5 picks after that I think that is pretty good value.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

Should think with one year dip in HR department, I see it as the biggest discount you'll ever get on him. Potential 50 HR hitting monster, pretty much in his prime, and potential to hit .300 or higher. Prince has never been a better discount. I would absolutely take him as a 2nd rounder even on the back end of snake drafts to pair him up with a 1st rounder that could give me 30/30 potential.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:46 AM

View PostBush25, on 25 February 2013 - 08:11 AM, said:

Should think with one year dip in HR department, I see it as the biggest discount you'll ever get on him. Potential 50 HR hitting monster, pretty much in his prime, and potential to hit .300 or higher. Prince has never been a better discount. I would absolutely take him as a 2nd rounder even on the back end of snake drafts to pair him up with a 1st rounder that could give me 30/30 potential.

You make it sound like he's going in the 20s.  He's going in the 10-12 range as a top 3 first baseman in every draft I've seen, so saying you'd take him in the 2nd round doesn't mean a whole lot.

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 09:17 AM

if he gets at least 50AB during spring training and destroys it, he will have a huge start in the real season that I would not be surprised if he hits 55HR
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:19 AM

View PostSuikoden, on 25 February 2013 - 09:17 AM, said:

if he gets at least 50AB during spring training and destroys it, he will have a huge start in the real season that I would not be surprised if he hits 55HR

He probably had a few more 50 HR seasons in him if he stayed in Milwaukee, but I doubt he ever gets there in Comerica.  He'll still be insanely valuable, of course.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:45 PM

I'm confused by this guy.  He's ranked in everyone's ranks between 10-15 overall, regardless of position yet RotoWorld has him all the way down at #31, yes has nothing but glowing reviews and projected stats.

What gives?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:16 PM

i think you could make a case to take him as high as 4. top three picks are pretty clear cut, but after that it's a crap shoot.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:52 PM

Too much of an injury risk for me.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 07:58 PM

View PostMy Dinner With Andre, on 15 March 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Too much of an injury risk for me.

Please back this up with something.  Baseball is a different game now a days.  So many players, including superstars take or get days off to "clear their head" or nurse a very minor injury.
Prince Fielder on the other hand, prides himself on playing everyday.
Games played since his 2nd year where he became a full time player:
2007: 157
2007: 158
2008: 159
2009: 162
2010: 161
2011: 162
2012: 162
Man, he is injury prone, he's already missed a handful of games in 7 years...

EDIT: Please don't say he's an injury risk this year because he's fat.  He's ALWAYS been fat and hasn't dealt with injuries.  Plus he's only 29......if he was 33-34, then it could be a different story.

Edited by poopdungbeatle, 15 March 2013 - 08:00 PM.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:12 PM

View Postpoopdungbeatle, on 15 March 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostMy Dinner With Andre, on 15 March 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Too much of an injury risk for me.

Please back this up with something.  Baseball is a different game now a days.  So many players, including superstars take or get days off to "clear their head" or nurse a very minor injury.
Prince Fielder on the other hand, prides himself on playing everyday.
Games played since his 2nd year where he became a full time player:
2007: 157
2007: 158
2008: 159
2009: 162
2010: 161
2011: 162
2012: 162
Man, he is injury prone, he's already missed a handful of games in 7 years...

EDIT: Please don't say he's an injury risk this year because he's fat.  He's ALWAYS been fat and hasn't dealt with injuries.  Plus he's only 29......if he was 33-34, then it could be a different story.

Yeah, youre hard pressed to find a more durable player than this. His injury risk is nil at this point.
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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:14 PM

View Postpoopdungbeatle, on 15 March 2013 - 07:58 PM, said:

View PostMy Dinner With Andre, on 15 March 2013 - 07:52 PM, said:

Too much of an injury risk for me.

Please back this up with something.  Baseball is a different game now a days.  So many players, including superstars take or get days off to "clear their head" or nurse a very minor injury.
Prince Fielder on the other hand, prides himself on playing everyday.
Games played since his 2nd year where he became a full time player:
2007: 157
2007: 158
2008: 159
2009: 162
2010: 161
2011: 162
2012: 162
Man, he is injury prone, he's already missed a handful of games in 7 years...

EDIT: Please don't say he's an injury risk this year because he's fat.  He's ALWAYS been fat and hasn't dealt with injuries.  Plus he's only 29......if he was 33-34, then it could be a different story.

Haha, come on, that was just such a ridiculous comment that you had to see the the underlying sarcasm!

When it comes to fantasy baseball give me the fat, portly players over the musclebound physical specimens any day of the week.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:28 PM

Prince goes OFF this year, 40 HR, 121 RBI, .318 BA.....which leads to Hunter scoring 110 runs!
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Posted 25 March 2013 - 11:23 AM

I took him 7th overall last night and dont regret it. Hes the safest pick of round one IMO. I think he wins the mvp this year
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 02:06 PM

Prince is on the booooooard!

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