We all know about the fantasy mirage that is Kipnis. He has a first half that makes owners scramble to get him and he shows he is a 30/30 threat. But his second half made people wonder if he could even post a 10/10 year. In the end, he put together a decent stat line with a less than stellar average.
This begs the question: Which Kipnis will show up this year? I doubt his streaky bat can find a middle ground between the 2 extremes. So will we see that first half Kipnis or the second half Kipnis?
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Jason Kipnis 2013 OutlookWhich half of Kipnis will show up this year?
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Posted 30 December 2012 - 11:45 PM
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:23 PM
Great question....so did he just wear down or did the league figure him out? No idea but after I looked at his numbers for the second half, I would be very concerned.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:55 AM
Rob_P, on 31 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:
Great question....so did he just wear down or did the league figure him out? No idea but after I looked at his numbers for the second half, I would be very concerned.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 11:59 AM
PRoSPx, on 02 January 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:
Rob_P, on 31 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:
Great question....so did he just wear down or did the league figure him out? No idea but after I looked at his numbers for the second half, I would be very concerned.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 01:43 PM
PRoSPx, on 02 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:
PRoSPx, on 02 January 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:
Rob_P, on 31 December 2012 - 07:23 PM, said:
Great question....so did he just wear down or did the league figure him out? No idea but after I looked at his numbers for the second half, I would be very concerned.
Yeah he had 18 hits in his last 14 games along with 4 SBs.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 03:36 PM
I mentioned this in another thread, but I give Kipnis somewhat of a pass for the second half collapse. Not only was it this guy's first full season in the bigs, but this team as a whole collectively bleeped the bed post ASB. I'd compare his situation alot to what David Wright did with the Mets post ASB last year. While he won't be as good as his first half totals suggest, I'd also argue that he'll be nowhere near as bad as the second half. While he's a set it and forget it play strictly for roto purposes, if you plan on taking this guy anywhere in the 6th - 10th tier of 2B for H2H, then you really do need to almost handcuff him with a somewhat reliable backup middle infielder/utility guy just in case he really is closer to the latter than the former.
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Posted 02 January 2013 - 05:03 PM
Im buying especially if he's not going as a top 6 2b. Rather have him than hill with a later pick for sure.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 10:35 PM
brockpapersizer, on 02 January 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:
Im buying especially if he's not going as a top 6 2b. Rather have him than hill with a later pick for sure.
If he is getting drafted outside of top 6 or 7 2b then I am buying as well. He is still a young player, and I believe in the second half he might have a neck injury that lingered and affcected his play a little bit.
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Posted 03 January 2013 - 11:52 PM
klove42, on 03 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:
brockpapersizer, on 02 January 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:
Im buying especially if he's not going as a top 6 2b. Rather have him than hill with a later pick for sure.
If he is getting drafted outside of top 6 or 7 2b then I am buying as well. He is still a young player, and I believe in the second half he might have a neck injury that lingered and affcected his play a little bit.
Kipnis has good upside to him. Power and speed. The 7th 2B off the board sounds about right.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 08:25 AM
Where's Kipnis going? Yahoo's pumping him as the 4th 2b off the board. So any chance of getting him at 6-10 2B just evaporated.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:03 PM
Pulled in the 2nd inning. Uh oh....
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:15 PM
Tried to find information and nothing yet. Im just hoping is something extremely minor
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:18 PM
Anyone see or hear anything? No word on the net yet...
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:32 PM
Found this on twitter. Not sure the validity.
Defensive changes all over the field for the #Indians in just the 3rd inning at Goodyear Ballpark. Kipnis probably fine.
Defensive changes all over the field for the #Indians in just the 3rd inning at Goodyear Ballpark. Kipnis probably fine.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:51 PM
Just so everyone is clear about Kipnis' second half - it was really just a terrible August that brought down his 2nd half stats. He was serviceable in July and good again in September. If he can rediscover his power (and he probably will) he'll provide very good returns, I'm sure.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 04:29 PM
https://twitter.com/...087816569561088
#Indians Kipnis is fine. He was just the first one out of the game in the 2nd inning. No injury.
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Edit: 2Balls got to it before me.
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Edit: 2Balls got to it before me.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 11:02 PM
Kipnis is slotted in the 3 whole in a sneaky good lineup
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1. Bourn
2. Asdrubal
3. Kipnis
4. Swisher
5. Santana
How do you not love that out of your 2b. Great spot for RBI and Runs, plus 30 SB potential remains.
I'm buying.
Cleveland Projected Lineup
1. Bourn
2. Asdrubal
3. Kipnis
4. Swisher
5. Santana
How do you not love that out of your 2b. Great spot for RBI and Runs, plus 30 SB potential remains.
I'm buying.
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Util- Freeman
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 01:35 AM
traded for this guy last year right before the downward spiral. i think he hit one homer for me. obviously, i wasn't sold on him this year.
good luck to those of you who are.
good luck to those of you who are.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 06:27 PM
slainte, on 31 March 2013 - 01:35 AM, said:
traded for this guy last year right before the downward spiral. i think he hit one homer for me. obviously, i wasn't sold on him this year.
good luck to those of you who are.
good luck to those of you who are.
The second half teams were bringing up minor league lefties for spot starts against the Indians because they had so many left handed bats in the lineup. Kipnis struggled mightily against those lefties. I think that is still a concern, but the Indians added some right handed bats to give their lineup some balance.
But seriously, how many second baseman in the league are 3 whole hitters? Cano is the only other one I can think of off the top of my head.
Edited by justwrestle, 31 March 2013 - 06:28 PM.
10 team H2H
C- Buck
1b- Chris Davis
2b- Kinsler
3b- Reynolds
SS- Tulo
OF- Austin Jackson
OF- Jennings
OF- Fowler
Util- Freeman
Bench- R Zimmerman
DL- Hanley, J. Weaver
SP- Hamels, Sabathia, Zimmerman, H. Bailey, Halladay, Fernandez, Pettitte, Santana
RP- Soriano, Putz
C- Buck
1b- Chris Davis
2b- Kinsler
3b- Reynolds
SS- Tulo
OF- Austin Jackson
OF- Jennings
OF- Fowler
Util- Freeman
Bench- R Zimmerman
DL- Hanley, J. Weaver
SP- Hamels, Sabathia, Zimmerman, H. Bailey, Halladay, Fernandez, Pettitte, Santana
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 08:58 PM
Awesome start to the season...
And who are you, the proud lord said,
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.
that I must bow so low?
Only a cat of a different coat,
that's all the truth I know.
In a coat of gold or a coat of red,
a lion still has claws,
And mine are long and sharp, my lord,
as long and sharp as yours.
And so he spoke, and so he spoke,
that lord of Castamere,
But now the rains weep o'er his hall,
with no one there to hear.
Yes now the rains weep o'er his hall,
and not a soul to hear.
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