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[hawkeyefootball]

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  #Bears offense was ranked 15th in 2006. 2007: 27th. 2008: 26th. 2009: 23rd. 2010: 30th. 2011: 24th. 2012: 28th.

-Zach Zaidman on twitter

Lovie was a great defensive coach, and perhaps he should stick to being a defensive coordinator. His defenses were great, even this year despite the age and injuries to key players. That said, as a head coach, you eventually have to take blame for the offensive failures.

Get an offensive minded coach and go all out on improving the offensive line, and the Bears offensive weapons could see their value skyrocket next season.

Edit: And for the love of God get rid of Kellen "Dropatron" Davis

Edited by hawkeyefootball, 31 December 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[CooL]

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Lovie fired after going 10-6? That's a strange move.

It's not his fault that the Bears suffered a rash of injuries, but all anyone will remember about this season is they started 7-1 and at one point were in the talks about representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.  Then once again a huge collapse.  Mike Tice didn't help matters.  The fact that the Bears offense is so predictable (throw to Marshall, handoff to Forte) didn't help matters.  It'll be interesting to see what direction they move in.

Chan Gailey getting canned.  CJ Spiller owners rejoice!  Gosh, I wish I had taken him in my draft instead of the idiots I chose.

Norv's last presser was pretty pathetic.  It looked like he had been crying.  He said something like "Well, it's not up to me....  I assume they will be looking for a new coach tomorrow."  How utterly pathetic but incredibly fitting for an overrated coach who has overstayed his welcome for several years now.

Adam Schefter on ESPN right now saying how we have to keep in mind that today is a sad day for a lot of families.  It affects the coaches' families and then all of the other families of the coordinators and staff that work under the now fired coach.  Not exactly how I'd want to start out my 2013.  We sit here on our couches or desks and almost rejoice that people are getting fired.  I guess we're kind of numb to it.

Edited by CooL, 31 December 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[scienergy]

I'm numb to paying the Kansas City Chiefs organization any more of my hard earned money to watch them spend the last 25 years trying to find a franchise QB who can win a SINGLE GAME (Croyle went 0-10).  That's right folks, not since 1987 when I was merely 6 years old have the Chiefs had a drafted QB capable of winning a game.  It's time to stop using other people's trash FFS.

[GottaGetTheWin]

CooL, on 31 December 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

Adam Schefter on ESPN right now saying how we have to keep in mind that today is a sad day for a lot of families.  It affects the coaches' families and then all of the other families of the coordinators and staff that work under the now fired coach.  Not exactly how I'd want to start out my 2013.  We sit here on our couches or desks and almost rejoice that people are getting fired.  I guess we're kind of numb to it.

As you pointed out the ones it really affects is the underlying coaches, but not even the coordinators, its more about the position coaches.  The ones who aren't making millions of dollars a year.  You can get bet your bottom dollar that all these coaches have enough money to hold them over until they get a new gig.  It could be as a head coach, coordinator, college coach, ect...  This doesn't include the possibility of them going to TV.  

You look at a lot of these coaches, Crennel, Norv, Gailey, Lovie.  They shouldn't be out of work for too long.  Most of them will be back in the NFL in some capacity in the upcoming year and all should have some job within 2 years.

[mbroo5880i]

CooL, on 31 December 2012 - 12:11 PM, said:

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Lovie fired after going 10-6? That's a strange move.

It's not his fault that the Bears suffered a rash of injuries, but all anyone will remember about this season is they started 7-1 and at one point were in the talks about representing the NFC in the Super Bowl.  Then once again a huge collapse.  Mike Tice didn't help matters.  The fact that the Bears offense is so predictable (throw to Marshall, handoff to Forte) didn't help matters.  It'll be interesting to see what direction they move in.

Chan Gailey getting canned.  CJ Spiller owners rejoice!  Gosh, I wish I had taken him in my draft instead of the idiots I chose.

Norv's last presser was pretty pathetic.  It looked like he had been crying.  He said something like "Well, it's not up to me....  I assume they will be looking for a new coach tomorrow."  How utterly pathetic but incredibly fitting for an overrated coach who has overstayed his welcome for several years now.

Adam Schefter on ESPN right now saying how we have to keep in mind that today is a sad day for a lot of families.  It affects the coaches' families and then all of the other families of the coordinators and staff that work under the now fired coach.  Not exactly how I'd want to start out my 2013.  We sit here on our couches or desks and almost rejoice that people are getting fired.  I guess we're kind of numb to it.

I understand what you are saying.  I  would never root a specific coach with a specific team to lose his job, or a player, for that matter.  I just watch the movements with interest and gauge first, how they will affect each franchise and second, possible fantasy implications.   While it is a sad day for coaches, I think that it can be particularly sad for assistant coaches because in many cases they are let go because of another man's failure or because of the whim of the owner.  However, these guys have been through the drill many times and know that it comes with the territory.  Unlike the average person, the majority of those losing jobs in the NFL today have a better than average chance of landing a similar position, just in a different city.

[GottaGetTheWin]

Jon Gruden's name getting thrown back in the mix.

[dzemens]

GottaGetTheWin, on 31 December 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Jon Gruden's name getting thrown back in the mix.

Good I would love to see him get a job so I dont have to listen to him on MNF anymore.

[calzonesays]

Whisenhunt still safe? What does he have compromising pictures of the Bidwells?

[calzonesays]

Nevermind.  Whiz ain't safe anymore

[Proteus]

Soon it'll be time to play: Distract the Playoff Bound Coordinator!

[MrArmageddon]

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

[ToO_BaD]

Whiz and Graves...GONE

[calzonesays]

GottaGetTheWin, on 31 December 2012 - 12:01 PM, said:

Interesting here.  Any chance the Chiefs can get a Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden to come back?  Maybe Nick Saban although I don't know why on earth Saban would ever leave Alabama.

It always seemed to me that Bill Cowher was just chillin' around waiting for the Giants job to open up.  But Tom Coughlin keeps messing that up by winning a Super Bowl every time he's on the hot seat.

[predator_05]

MrArmageddon, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

Schiano's success has made college coaches 'popular' again.

[ToO_BaD]

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

MrArmageddon, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

Schiano's success has made college coaches 'popular' again.

Schiano's success?  What about Harbaugh?  And Carroll?

[phizzics]

Is it really true? Norv Turner is finally gone?

Where did they find his last horcrux?

[Patrick Bateman]

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 02:41 PM, said:

MrArmageddon, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

Schiano's success has made college coaches 'popular' again.

Not so much Schiano as much as Pete Carroll and Jim Harbaugh.

Saban wasn't that bad of a coach in the pros.  His problem stemmed from personnel decisions and I'm unsure how much he played into that.  Their drafts were poor and although he says he wanted Brees, they ultimately decided on Culpepper....

[Patrick Bateman]

phizzics, on 31 December 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:

Is it really true? Norv Turner is finally gone?

Where did they find his last horcrux?

It was Drew Brees' cheek mark.  It was destroyed by Brees is the QB that lived.....

[crusoe]

GottaGetTheWin, on 31 December 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

I doubt that such a decorated college coach would go to one of the NFL's backwater franchises...

If the money is right....no matter where he goes he should be in line for a nice contract.

I gaurantee Oregon and Phil Knight would beat any NFL offer on the board if they needed to, so its a matter of winning for Kelly.  That gaurantees he won't go to Buffalo.

MrArmageddon, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

You should do some research on Oregon's recruiting.  They actually have very few 5 star recuits compared to the SEC teams, Florida teams, Texas teams, and USC.  Oregon is so good because everybody buys into the coach's scheme, which rests squarely on Kelly's shoulders.  I don't want to see Kelly go, but I gaurantee he will be sucessful in the NFL.

[dzemens]

crusoe, on 31 December 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

GottaGetTheWin, on 31 December 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

predator_05, on 31 December 2012 - 11:59 AM, said:

I doubt that such a decorated college coach would go to one of the NFL's backwater franchises...

If the money is right....no matter where he goes he should be in line for a nice contract.

I gaurantee Oregon and Phil Knight would beat any NFL offer on the board if they needed to, so its a matter of winning for Kelly.  That gaurantees he won't go to Buffalo.

MrArmageddon, on 31 December 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

I really don't think Kelly will make the jump and if he does I don't think it will be long until he goes back to the NCAA. He'll get his pay day, suck, and then be gone, like Saban.

People don't realize that in the NFL the playing field is level. There's a salary cap. In college there is no limit on how many 5 star recruits you can get. You can't do that in the NFL.

You should do some research on Oregon's recruiting.  They actually have very few 5 star recuits compared to the SEC teams, Florida teams, Texas teams, and USC.  Oregon is so good because everybody buys into the coach's scheme, which rests squarely on Kelly's shoulders.  I don't want to see Kelly go, but I gaurantee he will be sucessful in the NFL.

The issue at Oregon isnt going to be money, its going to be where that NCAA investigation is leading.