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[ballfan4141]

injuries? healthy? productive? look pretty good hitting at the end of the last season.

[Suikoden]

You just completely destroyed Fantasy Baseball Talks look with your unwillingness to use caps.  Feed him to the lions!

[ballfan4141]

yes. mods. delete it I will repost.

[malta69]

Love the real life Pedroia, hate the Day to Day/Injury prone/overvalued fantasy player.

Not that the guy is Tulo 2.0 or anything, I actually admire his toughness and willingness to play through pain, but the guy just gets so many nagging injuries and for some reason, seems to take a beating in the field.  I'm always suprised by just how soon he goes after Cano in most of my drafts (late 2nd - early 3rd rd).

Edited by malta69, 10 January 2013 - 03:59 PM.

[GreenGold74]

Felt like he got healthier as the season finished and was starting to produce at the level we are accustomed to. He's a year older and the offense is certainly going to be different in the middle other than Ortiz but still looks potent enough for a 95-100 R season out of the 2 hole. Expecting a .295-.300 95R 16/80 20SB season if he gets 550-600 AB's. He's a year older and could be prone to longer stretches of being out if he gets dinged up so a 10% drop off from my projection could occur as well. He's still very valuable and a Top 3 2B overall and wouldn't put too much stock in his overall numbers last year considering the seriousness of the injury he played through the middle of the season.

All that said I wouldn't blame people for rolling the dice on Hill and similar power/speed guys you can get in the 6th-7th rounds.

Edited by GreenGold74, 13 January 2013 - 10:07 PM.

[parrothead]

I think this could potentially be a year he is undervalued, I just get the sense that the Red Sox in general are not well thought of, written about or talked about.  

There are about 4-5 guys I am really interested to see their value in our auction this year, Pedrioa is one of them.

[GreenGold74]

You can easily make the case that you can get Zorbist 3-4 rounds later whose output is very similar to Pedroia with a drop off in average. Brandon Philips used to be in that category of guys you could get a little later that produced similar numbers. If he is 100% I don't doubt he can bounce back. To me I'd take a look at the guys hitting behind him and decide if he can get 95-105 runs because the runs and average are a big part of what stood him apart from the guys 3-5 slots under him in past seasons.

[ballfan4141]

with the red sox team having injuries and not the production along with pedroias injuries I am thinking of trading him or not even keeping him. I have aaron hill.

[Orion Braun]

ballfan4141, on 14 February 2013 - 08:50 AM, said:

with the red sox team having injuries and not the production along with pedroias injuries I am thinking of trading him or not even keeping him. I have aaron hill.

Cool, man. Let us know how that works out for you.

[Stanford410]

He's honestly a very overvalued player, just like Carl Crawford is now too. I honestly believe that Neil Walker is a better player this year and will have a better season. Looks like PEDS is on the decline and Walkers numbers compared to last year almost matched peds except for the fact hat Walker missed the last month and a half(80-90 ab's); which would have put him above Pedroia's numbers. I wouldnt make him a priority to draft; however if Cano, Kinsler, Phillips, Walker, and Kipnis are gone, I'd take him then.

[elsegundo]

Actually, I don't think Carl Crawford is overvalued this year, he's dropped way down the list from where he used to be.

[Stanford410]

elsegundo, on 14 February 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

Actually, I don't think Carl Crawford is overvalued this year, he's dropped way down the list from where he used to be.

All the analysts talk about what he(crawford) could do or what he should do when in reality he's not doing anything. He definitely won't get stats like back in the Tampa days. (like 15 homers/50 sb's.) Id say a realistic projection is 8/9 homers and maybe 30 sb's.

Edited by Stanford410, 14 February 2013 - 02:56 PM.

[Slatykamora]

Stanford410, on 14 February 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

He's honestly a very overvalued player, just like Carl Crawford is now too. I honestly believe that Neil Walker is a better player this year and will have a better season. Looks like PEDS is on the decline and Walkers numbers compared to last year almost matched peds except for the fact hat Walker missed the last month and a half(80-90 ab's); which would have put him above Pedroia's numbers. I wouldnt make him a priority to draft; however if Cano, Kinsler, Phillips, Walker, and Kipnis are gone, I'd take him then.

What makes you think decline? He is certainly has injury risk, but I don't know where you are seeing any sort of natural decline. He hurt his thumb and tried to play thur it last year and his numbers took an absolute nose dive in June..But he was back in form for the 2nd half the season.

The only thing that concerns me from a numbers stand point. Was his Walk rate dropped from 11 to 7.. Yet his o-swing actually lowered too. So i'm not sure what to make out of that...

[ballfan4141]

pedroia...dont like the red sox last year or this year. however it was said ortiz and pedroia will be switching the 3rd spot in the batting order depending on RHP or LHP

[Jay85]

Stanford410, on 14 February 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

He's honestly a very overvalued player, just like Carl Crawford is now too. I honestly believe that Neil Walker is a better player this year and will have a better season. Looks like PEDS is on the decline and Walkers numbers compared to last year almost matched peds except for the fact hat Walker missed the last month and a half(80-90 ab's); which would have put him above Pedroia's numbers. I wouldnt make him a priority to draft; however if Cano, Kinsler, Phillips, Walker, and Kipnis are gone, I'd take him then.

Peds will be gone right after Kinsler. He is going in 3rd round.

[jb_power]

If Pedroia stays relatively healthy I expect him to battle Kinsler for the #2 spot for 2B (behind Cano) and I expect him to finish #2.

He'll be hitting 2nd vs RHP and 3rd vs LHP with half his games in Fenway.  I think his final 2013 numbers will resemble his lines from 2008, 2009 and 2011 ... STUD

[Stanford410]

Slatykamora, on 14 February 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Stanford410, on 14 February 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

He's honestly a very overvalued player, just like Carl Crawford is now too. I honestly believe that Neil Walker is a better player this year and will have a better season. Looks like PEDS is on the decline and Walkers numbers compared to last year almost matched peds except for the fact hat Walker missed the last month and a half(80-90 ab's); which would have put him above Pedroia's numbers. I wouldnt make him a priority to draft; however if Cano, Kinsler, Phillips, Walker, and Kipnis are gone, I'd take him then.

What makes you think decline? He is certainly has injury risk, but I don't know where you are seeing any sort of natural decline. He hurt his thumb and tried to play thur it last year and his numbers took an absolute nose dive in June..But he was back in form for the 2nd half the season.

The only thing that concerns me from a numbers stand point. Was his Walk rate dropped from 11 to 7.. Yet his o-swing actually lowered too. So i'm not sure what to make out of that...

Well he(Pedroia) hit 10 of his 15 homers in Fenway park with 7 of them being labeled as just enough.(2 were labeled lucky) If you didn't know he is a lucky player. Back in '11 he had a groundball babip of .319, with the league average being .237. Tell me how his year would have played out if he would have even a .260 gb babip. nowhere near. Same with last year except his groundball babip decreased which led from a .307 ba in 2011 to a .290 last season. Now I'm not saying he's on a total decline I just think IMO that he has hit his peak and won't match what he has done before. Just my opinion and I'm not drafting high on him.

Edited by Stanford410, 15 February 2013 - 02:29 PM.

[holyBrowns]

Hey Dustin, maybe you shouldn't slide headfirst, for the rest of your career.

[Stickfig13]

 holyBrowns, on 03 April 2013 - 01:58 PM, said:

Hey Dustin, maybe you shouldn't slide headfirst, for the rest of your career.

Here we go again. Wear a freaking brace on both hands!

[whiskeyriver]

God, what a little moron he is.