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[PRoSPx]

A lot of people were expecting Mat Latos to take a big step forward.  Unfortunately he was erriely similar in 2012 as he was in 2011.

Honestly if you take out his slow start in April of 28.67 innings he had an ERA of 5.97, 1.57 WHIP, 5.65 K/9, and a .307 BAA his stats look much better.

I'm seeing Latos go in the 10th round and that's seemingly like a very fair value.

[d_wag]

PRoSPx, on 19 January 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

A lot of people were expecting Mat Latos to take a big step forward.  Unfortunately he was erriely similar in 2012 as he was in 2011.

Honestly if you take out his slow start in April of 28.67 innings he had an ERA of 5.97, 1.57 WHIP, 5.65 K/9, and a .307 BAA his stats look much better.

I'm seeing Latos go in the 10th round and that's seemingly like a very fair value.

latos always starts slow - those numbers are right around his career averages for april.  if he ever figures out how to get geared up earlier he could put up a cy young caliber season.

in that regard, he (or his pitching coach) might have picked up on something that will help him next april and beyond - he threw his changeup 11% of the time in april and then pretty much ditched it for the rest of the year.

http://www.fangraphs...doubters-wrong/

i actually think he's under-rated in fantasy - dude is still learning how to pitch and refining his game, we haven't seen his best year yet, but the ones we have seen are pretty good

[Jmadtown]

Could be a sneaky pick this year. 10th round is good value. Not sure I'd target him though at that price, just me though.

[PRoSPx]

d_wag, on 20 January 2013 - 02:46 AM, said:

latos always starts slow - those numbers are right around his career averages for april.  if he ever figures out how to get geared up earlier he could put up a cy young caliber season.

in that regard, he (or his pitching coach) might have picked up on something that will help him next april and beyond - he threw his changeup 11% of the time in april and then pretty much ditched it for the rest of the year.

http://www.fangraphs...doubters-wrong/

i actually think he's under-rated in fantasy - dude is still learning how to pitch and refining his game, we haven't seen his best year yet, but the ones we have seen are pretty good

I don't think there is really not all that much data to draw that conclusion.  He was bad last year in April and in 2010 when he was 22.  In 2011 his April wasn't good, but it wasn't nearly as disastrous as last year.

[Neymar]

I like him this year

[LyondellBasell]

I like him every year. Through thick and thin.

[tucker26]

I hope MeisterT owns him again. If so, that alone is worth reaching a few rounds early to nab him.

[PRoSPx]

tucker26, on 21 January 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

I hope MeisterT owns him again. If so, that alone is worth reaching a few rounds early to nab him.

I don't know if it's ever good turning a 9th - 10th rounder into a 6th - 7th rounder.

[Stanford410]

Looking for a better ERA this year somewhere around 3.00:: 3.15 195 k's and a solid Win ratio again. Go Latos.

Edited by Stanford410, 21 January 2013 - 05:12 PM.

[tucker26]

PRoSPx, on 21 January 2013 - 05:05 PM, said:

tucker26, on 21 January 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

I hope MeisterT owns him again. If so, that alone is worth reaching a few rounds early to nab him.

I don't know if it's ever good turning a 9th - 10th rounder into a 6th - 7th rounder.

DDallas has informed us via Twitter that Mat will be ready and that we should not worry about her man being ready for the season.

That's two D's and one T. 9th round looking like a bargain as I see it.

[Zumayaaaa]

Yep I will likely own Mat with 1 T once again, if not for anything else to be a part of his epic rotoworld threads.

WE ALL LOVE YOU MAT.

[avswsop91]

Really think Latos have a shot to become a top10/15 SP this season. What do everyone else think?

[uspsjeter2]

The only negative with him is that home ballpark. He has to really concentrate on pitching down in the zone. He addressed that nicely in the 2nd half last year, going from 42% GB and 41% FB in the 1st half to 49% GB and 32% FB. Plus he cut his hr/fb rate in half. Everything seems to be trending in the right direction, and the Reds are again in position to win the division. Bumping that K rate up a tick could make him Elite.

[Dissection]

His ERA in last 4 months: July 3.34; August 2.61; Septeber 2.27; October(1 game)  1.80.

That looks promising,he really settled after rough start.

[MeisterT]

after a long winter spent stalking following DDallas on Twitter, this morn the birds were singing, the sun shining, and knew the time had come-- after several months away it was high time to login at RW and head immediately to the Latos thread.

I'll draft this maniac in the 7th round and wreck my entire draft if have to, owning Latos again and following his donkey chronicles thread will be worth it.
Also, if he gets through May without being arrested, catching hepatitis from a tattoo parlor, or with an era under 6, he could be a real nice mid-rotation sp
quoth zumayaa "WE ALL LOVE YOU MAT"

[JFS171]

MeisterT, on 02 March 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

after a long winter spent stalking following DDallas on Twitter, this morn the birds were singing, the sun shining, and knew the time had come-- after several months away it was high time to login at RW and head immediately to the Latos thread.

I'll draft this maniac in the 7th round and wreck my entire draft if have to, owning Latos again and following his donkey chronicles thread will be worth it.
Also, if he gets through May without being arrested, catching hepatitis from a tattoo parlor, or with an era under 6, he could be a real nice mid-rotation sp
quoth zumayaa "WE ALL LOVE YOU MAT"

As the original purveyor of the Costanza Theory, I must say I truly hope we're all back on board this year. Until MaT with one T fully breaks the Costanza curse, we'll all enjoy the roller coaster.

In my main league, I bid Mat farewell in an offseason deal. But fret not, I will re-acquire somehow, some way post-draft. He should be pretty cheap by mid April.

[My Dinner With Andre]

PRoSPx, on 19 January 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

A lot of people were expecting Mat Latos to take a big step forward.  Unfortunately he was erriely similar in 2012 as he was in 2011.

That couldn't be any further from the truth.  Everyone was expecting Latos to get hammered in the Great American Bandbox.

Fortunately, he posted virtually the exact same numbers after moving from Petco to Cincy

[2ndCitySox]

I think Latos can be pretty similar to Greinke this year, and I'm sure he going quite a bit later

[mjk356]

MeisterT, on 02 March 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

after a long winter spent stalking following DDallas on Twitter, this morn the birds were singing, the sun shining, and knew the time had come-- after several months away it was high time to login at RW and head immediately to the Latos thread.

I'll draft this maniac in the 7th round and wreck my entire draft if have to, owning Latos again and following his donkey chronicles thread will be worth it.
Also, if he gets through May without being arrested, catching hepatitis from a tattoo parlor, or with an era under 6, he could be a real nice mid-rotation sp
quoth zumayaa "WE ALL LOVE YOU MAT"

Every player in baseball seems to have a quaint Spring training puff piece written about them, i.e. "He's in the best shape of his life.  He renewed his love of the game by playing Winter ball, etc."

I'd imagine the puff pieces about Latos are different.  "DDallas spent the offseason working as an escort for fun.  Mat blew off some steam working as her "manager".  It was the perfect way for the couple to renew the vigor in their relationship and gave Mat time to take his mind of the rigors of the 162 game season."

That's how I imagine the Latoses spending their offseason.

[MeisterT]

ahhh, the Costanza Theory, puff pieces in the Cinci Inquirer about Mat and DDallas' offseason escort service/couples therapy...
already the 2013 Latos thread is a thing of awesomeness. It's like reality tv but way better.