Any Ariz/Oak fans want to shed some light on him? I know he's only had a cup of coffee for each team but hearing Alderson on the radio, he sounds pretty high on this kid.
Looking at his 2011 yr in the minors (AAA), it was ridiculous: .354 BA, 13/70 and 30 SB's. His OBP was also very solid, career .371 OBP
If Neiunwheis doesnt improve his plate discipline, Cowgil could easily take over the every day role.
Cowgil still fairly young (26). Could be a decent flier in deep leagues...
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:29 PM
didnt he play in the majors last year a little?
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:07 PM
ballfan4141, on 23 January 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:
didnt he play in the majors last year a little?
Yea only 38 games last year and 36 the year prior with ARI.
Didnt do much really either stint. So this year will be his 1st legit chance in the pros. He's got solid speed and showed some pop in the minors (16 and 13 hrs, back to back yrs)
Could be a solid roto guy more then h2h but might present some value this yr in fantasy
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:33 PM
Whoopie!, on 23 January 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:
Any Ariz/Oak fans want to shed some light on him? I know he's only had a cup of coffee for each team but hearing Alderson on the radio, he sounds pretty high on this kid.
Looking at his 2011 yr in the minors (AAA), it was ridiculous: .354 BA, 13/70 and 30 SB's. His OBP was also very solid, career .371 OBP
If Neiunwheis doesnt improve his plate discipline, Cowgil could easily take over the every day role.
Cowgil still fairly young (26). Could be a decent flier in deep leagues...
Looking at his 2011 yr in the minors (AAA), it was ridiculous: .354 BA, 13/70 and 30 SB's. His OBP was also very solid, career .371 OBP
If Neiunwheis doesnt improve his plate discipline, Cowgil could easily take over the every day role.
Cowgil still fairly young (26). Could be a decent flier in deep leagues...
Playing in Triple A Reno will make players look better than they are, Brandon Allen immediately comes to mind. But in fairness to Cowgill, his walk and strikeout rates coming up through the minors were good. It's a shame that in his limited appearances to date, he has struck 25% of the time. There is some potential here, perhaps for him to be a De Aza type player. Definitely needs to count down on the strikeouts and hopefully add a little bit more power than he had last year for the A's. Three extra base hits in 116 plate appearances isn't going to cut it.
It's unfortunate that he basically lost a year because Billy Beane wanted to acquire 15 outfielders last off season and never really got an extended look. But like you said, at this point in time, there really isn't a reason for him to not see a lot of time for the Mets. Apparently he is their fourth outfielder right now, according to the rotoworld depth chart. But if he plays to his potential, then he should have no problem between out one of the Duda, Nieuwenhuis and Baxter trio currently slated to start in the outfield. In the very least, he should see a lot of playing time due to the fact that he's probbably a better fielder than all three of them.
I see him as a .270 10 hr 20-25 sb type player if he got anywhere near full playing time. That definitely has value in deep mixed and NL-Only leagues. But it will be important to keep a tab on what happens during spring training in regards to his playing time.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:39 PM
Both of those organizations have a knack for acquiring 3rd-4th OF types that tend to on the surface block the path of prospect types needing a chance. He is a guy I for sure will monitor in spring and can be a nice cheap source of bags or perhaps goes undrafted and could be a replacement for me if I roll the dice on a minor league guy like Tavares or Brown.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:47 PM
The OBP/speed combo has me intrigued. I dont think he'll be the 4th OF for the Mets, he could be in a straight platoon with Neuwinheis in CF. And depending on their play, 1 of those 2 could emerge as the everyday guy.
Sandy did seem pretty optimistic about Cowgill's outlook this year. At the very least, he's going to get a legit chance this yr.
Sandy did seem pretty optimistic about Cowgill's outlook this year. At the very least, he's going to get a legit chance this yr.
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 12:05 PM
Cowgill is actually doing better than Duda and Neuw in spring training
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edit: "in spring training"
as if I bumped this lol...Mooooooo
edit: "in spring training"
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Yes, right now Cowgill is the favorite to start in CF. Kirk is hurt (and was struggling anyway). Den Dekker is still too young.
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I've seen several teams use their name as "reverse cowgill" and I can't help but laugh every time I see it.
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Cowgill hmm, what he's doing this spring?
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And Won, on 07 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:
Cowgill hmm, what he's doing this spring?
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:50 PM
Just named the Mets starting CF
Rotoworld:
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
I'm sensing a 15/15 season easily
Where does thus leave Valdespin?
Rotoworld:
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
I'm sensing a 15/15 season easily
Where does thus leave Valdespin?
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:51 PM
looks like he's won the everyday job for CF. Will he also be leading off or will he be hitting at the end of the lineup?
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:56 PM
Folks, his name is Collin Cowgill........does that sound like a HOFer to you? No. He has bust written all over his name.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 02:58 PM
StuPitt, on 30 March 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:
Folks, his name is Collin Cowgill........does that sound like a HOFer to you? No. He has bust written all over his name.
Are you really using his name to judge what type of player he is?
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:02 PM
StuPitt, on 30 March 2013 - 02:56 PM, said:
Folks, his name is Collin Cowgill........does that sound like a HOFer to you? No. He has bust written all over his name.
Hmm I never thought about it like that. Definite bust lol
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If you switch the first letters in his first/last name ... You get Collin Cowgill
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jb_power, on 30 March 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:
looks like he's won the everyday job for CF. Will he also be leading off or will he be hitting at the end of the lineup?
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
Collin Cowgill will open 2013 as the Mets' full-time center fielder.
Cowgill had an impressive spring and the Mets will go into the season with him as their everyday starter. Kirk Nieuwhenhuis made the Opening Day roster, but will function as a backup initially. If Cowgill can continue to hit right-handed pitching, he should have decent value in NL-only leagues.
based on what reuben tejada is doing this spring, and the reports of managements dissatisfaction with tejadas plate discipline, I could see cowgill leading off. I'm thinking the lead off spot is between tejada and cowgill with murphy batting second.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:10 PM
Cowgill is leading off, Collind has already announced the lineup.
Tejada is nowhere near the leadoff spot.
Tejada is nowhere near the leadoff spot.
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Posted 30 March 2013 - 03:16 PM
rraayy3, on 30 March 2013 - 03:10 PM, said:
Cowgill is leading off, Collind has already announced the lineup.
Tejada is nowhere near the leadoff spot.
Tejada is nowhere near the leadoff spot.
well i mean not just for opening day. if cowgill can get on base he'll keep the leadoff spot. collins has praised cowgill during the offseason saying he is a darkhorse to be a good fixture on the team
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