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2013 20-20 Hitter CandidatesDraft Value Galore!


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#1 Connollys2

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:15 PM

List the potiental 20/20 guys in 2013

#2 ballfan4141

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:22 PM

braun, trout, harper, mcutcheon, bj upton, alex rios........


and YES..............bengie molina. no j/p.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:32 PM

Jason Heyward
Matt Kemp

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

You have the obvious candidates

Braun
Trout
Cargo
Kemp
Cutch

Likely candidates

Heyward
Harper
BJ Upton
Justin Upton

Good chance at getting there candidates

Rios
Ian Desmond
Hanley
Choo
Adam Jones
Jimmy Rollins
Kinsler
Cespedes

Guys who were either a few HR or SB short but have the possibility of doing it candidates

Espinosa
Kipnis
Starlin Castro
Lawrie
D Wright
16 team H2H Dynasty league 6x6(R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG / W, S, K's, Hld, ERA, WHIP)

Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C, 1B)
1B - Edwin Encarnacion (Tor - 1B, 3B)
2B - Robinson Cano (Sea - 2B)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (Det - 3B)
SS - Jean Segura (MIL - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Matt Kemp (LAD - CF)
RF - Allen Craig (StL - 1B, LF, RF)
Util - David Wright (NYM - 3B)
BN - Oswaldo Arcia (Min - LF, RF), Matt Carpenter (StL - 1B, 2B, 3B, RF), Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
Pitchers:(5 SP/5 RP)
Starters: Clayton Kershaw(DL), Cole Hamels(DL), Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jordan Zimmermann, Corey Kluber, Jered Weaver, Ivan Nova, Hiroki Kuroda, Enny Romero
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Greg Holland, Sean Doolittle, Sergio Santos, Carlos Martinez
Farm System: George Springer(HOU - OF), Andrew Heaney(Mia - SP),Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Jose Martinez(Ari - SP), Hunter Dozier(KC - SS/3B), Adalberto Mejia(SF - SP)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:02 PM

View PostBlood Brother, on 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

You have the obvious candidates

Braun
Trout
Cargo
Kemp
Cutch

Likely candidates

Heyward
Harper
BJ Upton
Justin Upton

Good chance at getting there candidates

Rios
Ian Desmond
Hanley
Choo
Adam Jones
Jimmy Rollins
Kinsler
Cespedes

Guys who were either a few HR or SB short but have the possibility of doing it candidates

Espinosa
Kipnis
Starlin Castro
Lawrie
D Wright

You forgot Lorenzo Cain in the obvious candidates.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

True, we also need a new category for the 30/90 club

obvious candidates

Desmond Jennings
16 team H2H Dynasty league 6x6(R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG / W, S, K's, Hld, ERA, WHIP)

Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C, 1B)
1B - Edwin Encarnacion (Tor - 1B, 3B)
2B - Robinson Cano (Sea - 2B)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (Det - 3B)
SS - Jean Segura (MIL - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Matt Kemp (LAD - CF)
RF - Allen Craig (StL - 1B, LF, RF)
Util - David Wright (NYM - 3B)
BN - Oswaldo Arcia (Min - LF, RF), Matt Carpenter (StL - 1B, 2B, 3B, RF), Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
Pitchers:(5 SP/5 RP)
Starters: Clayton Kershaw(DL), Cole Hamels(DL), Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jordan Zimmermann, Corey Kluber, Jered Weaver, Ivan Nova, Hiroki Kuroda, Enny Romero
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Greg Holland, Sean Doolittle, Sergio Santos, Carlos Martinez
Farm System: George Springer(HOU - OF), Andrew Heaney(Mia - SP),Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Jose Martinez(Ari - SP), Hunter Dozier(KC - SS/3B), Adalberto Mejia(SF - SP)

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:18 PM

Guys with realistic shots at 20/20:

CI: Goldschmidt, Hosmer

MI: Hanley, Pedroia, Kinsler, Zobrist, Desmond, Rollins, Kipnis, Espinosa

OF: Braun, Trout, McCutchen, Kemp, Cargo, Upton1, Upton2, Heyward, Ellsbury, Harper, Cespedes, Choo, D.Jennings, Rios, C.Gomez, Cain, M.Saunders, Marte, Ruggiano

Obviously all these guys aren't gonna get there, but those are guys I have projected for 16+ in one category with 20+ in the other.  Melky was the last guy to miss the list.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:27 PM

By Position:
C - None , I guess in theory Molina could or maybe even Mauer, but just dont see it.

1B - Goldschmidt is probably your best candidate.  Hosmer could potentially get there and guy with the skill set who did it in the Minors in 2010 was Brandon Belt.
2B: Lots of guys with the skill sets who have done it or been closer or some feel can:  Kinsler, Pedroia, Phillips, Hill, Kipnis, Weeks, Utley .  Darkhorse if he gets ABs: Ryan Roberts, almost did it in 2011.

SS: Hanley, Zobrist, Rollins, Desmond and Espinosa have done it or have the skill set.  Castro could do it if Power increases, I doubt Tulo runs enough with the hamstring issues and I believe Reyes could if things break his way like they can statistically in some years (good HR to FB rate and good "just enough" rate) .

3B: Wright, Headley and Lawrie posess the skillset, though none of them probably will do it.

OF: Braun, Trout, Cutch, Uptons (2), Cargo, Harper Choo and Rios.  I think Jones and Cespedes also have skill sets.
Some who have potential if things break right but probably wont: Gordon, Fowler, Jennings, Victorino, Melky.
Darkhorses who have done in past, come real close or have been on per AB pace or potentially have skillset:  Michael Sanders, Justin Ruggiano, Lorenzo Cain, Chris Young and Francouer.
Guy who intrigues me for some reason per AB, horrible contact rate but made things happen when he hit the ball if he has full time gig: Justin Maxwell.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:28 PM

View PostRespectMyAuthority, on 23 January 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Guys with realistic shots at 20/20:

CI: Goldschmidt, Hosmer

MI: Hanley, Pedroia, Kinsler, Zobrist, Desmond, Rollins, Kipnis, Espinosa

OF: Braun, Trout, McCutchen, Kemp, Cargo, Upton1, Upton2, Heyward, Ellsbury, Harper, Cespedes, Choo, D.Jennings, Rios, C.Gomez, Cain, M.Saunders, Marte, Ruggiano

Obviously all these guys aren't gonna get there, but those are guys I have projected for 16+ in one category with 20+ in the other.  Melky was the last guy to miss the list.

I think Granderson is another OF candidate.  He has 20+ bags 2 of the last 4 years.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

Aaron Hill anyone???
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

View Postmalta69, on 23 January 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

Aaron Hill anyone???
He is on my list with other 2B about 3 posts up.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

View Postjb_power, on 23 January 2013 - 03:28 PM, said:

View PostRespectMyAuthority, on 23 January 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:

Guys with realistic shots at 20/20:

CI: Goldschmidt, Hosmer

MI: Hanley, Pedroia, Kinsler, Zobrist, Desmond, Rollins, Kipnis, Espinosa

OF: Braun, Trout, McCutchen, Kemp, Cargo, Upton1, Upton2, Heyward, Ellsbury, Harper, Cespedes, Choo, D.Jennings, Rios, C.Gomez, Cain, M.Saunders, Marte, Ruggiano

Obviously all these guys aren't gonna get there, but those are guys I have projected for 16+ in one category with 20+ in the other.  Melky was the last guy to miss the list.

I think Granderson is another OF candidate.  He has 20+ bags 2 of the last 4 years.
You are right I just did a quick scan over my positional lists.  I also left Marte off who someone else mentioned is another good candidate.  I guess in theory Drew Stubbs could be too, but I tend to trust some of the work BPZ did on the ball parks and that move will not help his power increase.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

Rutledge as a dark horse candidate
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:43 PM

Some guys who have an outside chance:
Jennings - if he rebounds
S. Castro - if power improves
Stubbs - longshot but with playing time could be close
Headley - could be close if power is real
Lawrie
Weeks
A. Jones
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 03:49 PM

Ichiro.


Maybe not 20/20, but 15/20 seems doable.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:39 PM

View Postcowbell204, on 23 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Ichiro.


Maybe not 20/20, but 15/20 seems doable.

As a Yankee fan, I would be really happy with a 10/30 season from Ichiro, but I don't think he gets anywhere near 20 homers even in that stadium.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:43 PM

View Postklove42, on 23 January 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

View Postcowbell204, on 23 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Ichiro.


Maybe not 20/20, but 15/20 seems doable.

As a Yankee fan, I would be really happy with a 10/30 season from Ichiro, but I don't think he gets anywhere near 20 homers even in that stadium.

He hit 5 in 60-some games with them last year.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

View Postcowbell204, on 23 January 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

View Postklove42, on 23 January 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

View Postcowbell204, on 23 January 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

Ichiro.


Maybe not 20/20, but 15/20 seems doable.

As a Yankee fan, I would be really happy with a 10/30 season from Ichiro, but I don't think he gets anywhere near 20 homers even in that stadium.

He hit 5 in 60-some games with them last year.

He hit 5 in 67 games, even if you expect that pace to continue and assuming he plays all 162 games he was still only on pace to hit around 12-13 homers for the Yankees last year.
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Posted 23 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

View Postklove42, on 23 January 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

View PostBlood Brother, on 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

So obvious that it isn't even necessary to list

Lorenzo Cain

You have the obvious candidates

Braun
Trout
Cargo
Kemp
Cutch

Likely candidates

Heyward
Harper
BJ Upton
Justin Upton

Good chance at getting there candidates

Rios
Ian Desmond
Hanley
Choo
Adam Jones
Jimmy Rollins
Kinsler
Cespedes

Guys who were either a few HR or SB short but have the possibility of doing it candidates

Espinosa
Kipnis
Starlin Castro
Lawrie
D Wright

You forgot Lorenzo Cain in the obvious candidates.

Fixed.

Edited by baltimore_boy, 23 January 2013 - 04:59 PM.

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Posted 23 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

View Postbaltimore_boy, on 23 January 2013 - 04:59 PM, said:

View Postklove42, on 23 January 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

View PostBlood Brother, on 23 January 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

So obvious that it isn't even necessary to list

Lorenzo Cain

You have the obvious candidates

Braun
Trout
Cargo
Kemp
Cutch

Likely candidates

Heyward
Harper
BJ Upton
Justin Upton

Good chance at getting there candidates

Rios
Ian Desmond
Hanley
Choo
Adam Jones
Jimmy Rollins
Kinsler
Cespedes

Guys who were either a few HR or SB short but have the possibility of doing it candidates

Espinosa
Kipnis
Starlin Castro
Lawrie
D Wright

You forgot Lorenzo Cain in the obvious candidates.

Fixed.

Hahahaha, nicely done.
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