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#1 Renob9

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

Thinking of trading my Irving and Z-Bo for Conley and Batum. What do you guys think? I'm in need of a good SG and now that dragic is playing well I can afford to give up Kyrie
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 05:55 AM

lets say u need batum badly , which is not the case since u have lebron .
Why would u send Zboo ? and irving?
i'll make it simple, Batum is a top 5 SG/SF , but Zboo is a top 5 PF and Irving is a top 3 PG !
i say Irving for Batum is fair.
Zboo + Dragic for Batum + 1 is fair.

it's an 8 teams league, u should be loaded with stars.
i'm sure u can find a good replacement in the FA, like jarret Jack/drummond/favors.
points is , don't trade both Zboo and IRving for batum .

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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:12 AM

I say HELL no there has to be a decent sg out there and one of those points can play the 2 spot like Vasquez your good my dude
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 06:13 AM

Drop bogut and find maybe a Bledsoe or Barnes or someone decent off the wire
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 07:56 AM

i would certainly not do that trade, especially because batum is having some wrist issues right now.  batum can be and is playing so closely to elite level.  however, irving is already there.

it looks like you may just be bored with your current lineup and redick is playing pretty lights out right now... settle in and just wait to see what's going on with afflalo and then make adjustments... youre fine
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

I guess I wanted Batum so bad I didn't think about the talent I was giving up. Thanks for the advice. I'm still in need of a SG and I know the Magic will trade redick which brings his value way down. How about Sanders and Dragic for James Harden?
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

Wait wait wait wait wait.... people are saying Z-bo is better than Conley o-O? I love Z-bo... but all he is points and rebounds. That's easier to find than an elite steals guys and decent assists. I'd take Conley over Z-bo any day of the week.
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Posted 30 January 2013 - 12:03 PM

Irving is the best player in this trade, but not by too much. Batum is right there too.

Conley is better than Randolph because of the scarcity of stls and asts compared to rebounds and points.

I don't think you'd miss Z-bo too much with Millsap, LMA, and Gasol on the roster. And I agree that Batum represents a HUGE bump in your SG roster spot. That alone makes it worth it IMO because I just don't like the prospect of having to rely on Redick and Afflalo.

That said, I would DEFINITELY do Sanders and Dragic for Harden. That is a no brainer and is the trade I would get done if I had the option.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 11:55 AM

Another possible trade in the works. MY Irving, Z-BO, and Dragic for Conley, Batum and Mayo. I'm in need of a few shooting guards like I said and I feel like Mayo gets as many assists as Dragic while helping me with 3's, points, but mainly FG and FT %'s. Thoughts? WHIR
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:20 PM

Conley is better than Zbo by a wide margin.  Irving is better than Batum by only a small margin.  

Take Conley and Batum.  The deal that adds Mayo and Dragic is even better for you.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:30 PM

Anybody take a look at the OP's team??? Are you kidding me? You are absolutely stacked at every position. I wouldn't do this deal though... Irving is a top 10 player and is far better than Conley. So as far as PG's go I'd stick with it. Whereas, Z Bo and Batum are a wash depending on your needs... Since your team doesn't really need rebounds try trading Z Bo straight up for Batum. But, don't trade away Irving for this deal, it's not worth it you should be able to get both Conley and Batum for Irving...

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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostAssasinn3, on 31 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Anybody take a look at the OP's team??? Are you kidding me? You are absolutely stacked at every position. I wouldn't do this deal though... Irving is a top 10 player and is far better than Conley. So as far as PG's go I'd stick with it. Whereas, Z Bo and Batum are a wash depending on your needs... Since your team doesn't really need rebounds try trading Z Bo straight up for Batum. But, don't trade away Irving for this deal, it's not worth it you should be able to get both Conley and Batum for Irving...

In exactly what league format are Batum and Zbo a wash?  In 8 and 9 cat leagues (OP is in an 8 cat league) Batum is a top 10 player and Zbo is like top 60.

Edited by earthtobrint, 31 January 2013 - 02:34 PM.

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PF: David West, Nikola Vucevic
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 02:52 PM

View PostAssasinn3, on 31 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

Anybody take a look at the OP's team??? Are you kidding me? You are absolutely stacked at every position. I wouldn't do this deal though... Irving is a top 10 player and is far better than Conley. So as far as PG's go I'd stick with it. Whereas, Z Bo and Batum are a wash depending on your needs... Since your team doesn't really need rebounds try trading Z Bo straight up for Batum. But, don't trade away Irving for this deal, it's not worth it you should be able to get both Conley and Batum for Irving...

Batum's given more throughout the whole season... average wise he's the same as Irving. How many people underrate Batum? Seriously, 5x5 this year. Some guy was saying that Smoove = Batum + 1. Z-bo is great, but holy crap overrated. The best fantasy Grizzlies are Gasol> Conley>Z-bo in that order.... The gaps are huge too. Top 30 AND Batum for Irving? Hell nah.
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Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:14 PM

Took the advice of most of you and pulled the trigger. I ended up giving up Irving, Randolph and Dragic for Conley, Batum, and Mayo. Once Conley and Batum are 100% I will feel better about this trade but still feel like I got the better deal.
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