Was expecting .265 and 34 bombs. Would be pumped with .280 and 40 bombs.
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Mark Trumbo 2013 Outlook
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 04:33 AM
Heretic, on 04 May 2013 - 11:05 PM, said:
Choo on Wieters, on 04 May 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:
NoClownQuestionsBro, on 04 May 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:
People keep throwing offers at me for this guy and have been turned down. He's a dealbreaker for me.
Same here. Been too valuable to my team.
See I've been discreetly shopping him trying to get stupid value out of him before he cools off and his BA drops back down.
You all expect him to keep hitting .290 all year?
The guys in my league don't take his value for his current run. The best offer I have gotten so far was Trumbo for Halladay straight up. I had to laugh that one off.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:06 AM
Trumbo seems like core talent to me.
Very limited downside... maybe BA, but we can all live with the .260 floor he has if he is hitting the bombs and driving in the runs.
Unless my roster was loaded with injuries which would dictate needs, I only see Trumbo as someone you trade for, not away.
Someone would really need to overpay me to pull Trumbo from me.
That's not to say he is going to be the best fantasy player out there, but his floor is so high and that's what makes him so valuable..
Very limited downside... maybe BA, but we can all live with the .260 floor he has if he is hitting the bombs and driving in the runs.
Unless my roster was loaded with injuries which would dictate needs, I only see Trumbo as someone you trade for, not away.
Someone would really need to overpay me to pull Trumbo from me.
That's not to say he is going to be the best fantasy player out there, but his floor is so high and that's what makes him so valuable..
Edited by Winky, 05 May 2013 - 07:06 AM.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:30 AM
This is kind if what he did last year. About half way through the season he looked like he had turned the corner. He then proceeded to tank the second half and kill his averages. Lets hope he can string together a full season this year.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:33 AM
GJDHouse, on 05 May 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:
This is kind if what he did last year. About half way through the season he looked like he had turned the corner. He then proceeded to tank the second half and kill his averages. Lets hope he can string together a full season this year.
This is what I was thinking, if he follows last year's pattern his value will be looking at a down turn in the next month or so. I still think if you can get value like he has "turned the corner" you take it and let someone else roll the dice on the truth of that statement.
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Start C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, MI, CI, 5 OF, DH, 9 P
C: Salvador Perez $4, Carlos Ruiz
1B: Adrian Gonzalez $27, Prince Fielder
2B: Jose Altuve $4*, Dustin Pedroia
3B: Miggy Cabrera $41*, Brett Lawrie $18
SS: Andrelton Simmons $1
OF: Matt Holliday $25, Mike Trout $13*, Starling Marte, Gerardo Parra, Marcell Ozuna
SP: CC Sabathia $30, Alex Cobb $7, Shelby Miller $1, Brandon Beachy $1, Andrew Cashner, Cole Hamels, Zach McAllister
RP: Mariano Rivera $17, JJ Putz $11, Rafael Betancourt $4, Ernesto Fieri $2, Heath Bell
BN: Zack Wheeler $2, Wil Meyers $2
Traded Ichiro for Ruiz, C Davis + D Murphy + Peavy for Fielder + Marte + Detwiler, Detwiler + Konerko for Peavy, Trumbo + Hellickson for Hamels, Peavy + Jeter for Pedroia
Roto 5x5 12 team $ league $260 cap * = kept.
Start C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, MI, CI, 5 OF, DH, 9 P
C: Salvador Perez $4, Carlos Ruiz
1B: Adrian Gonzalez $27, Prince Fielder
2B: Jose Altuve $4*, Dustin Pedroia
3B: Miggy Cabrera $41*, Brett Lawrie $18
SS: Andrelton Simmons $1
OF: Matt Holliday $25, Mike Trout $13*, Starling Marte, Gerardo Parra, Marcell Ozuna
SP: CC Sabathia $30, Alex Cobb $7, Shelby Miller $1, Brandon Beachy $1, Andrew Cashner, Cole Hamels, Zach McAllister
RP: Mariano Rivera $17, JJ Putz $11, Rafael Betancourt $4, Ernesto Fieri $2, Heath Bell
BN: Zack Wheeler $2, Wil Meyers $2
Traded Ichiro for Ruiz, C Davis + D Murphy + Peavy for Fielder + Marte + Detwiler, Detwiler + Konerko for Peavy, Trumbo + Hellickson for Hamels, Peavy + Jeter for Pedroia
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:01 AM
Heretic, on 05 May 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:
GJDHouse, on 05 May 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:
This is kind if what he did last year. About half way through the season he looked like he had turned the corner. He then proceeded to tank the second half and kill his averages. Lets hope he can string together a full season this year.
This is what I was thinking, if he follows last year's pattern his value will be looking at a down turn in the next month or so. I still think if you can get value like he has "turned the corner" you take it and let someone else roll the dice on the truth of that statement.
He's 27 and in the prime of his career. It's plausible that he's figured it out. I'll be damned if I let someone else profit. He was like a 10th round selection if he flops no big deal.
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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:25 AM
I'll be waiting for a very very good offer before deal him, his collapse last year started with an injury and while he certainly had some regressions on the horizon it's doubtful it was a coincidence that he went into the tank immediately after a dislocated rib- think those last 2 months of '12 are being a bit overrated so far as it being a 'pattern', just not sure if he has any true patterns yet cause that injury clouded last season-
in a way am personally giving him a mulligan on those 2 months, think he was playing through a tough injury while the club just couldn't afford to give him rest never mind a dl stint- and like NCQB just mentioned, his mid round price range was a bargain, the kind I'll let ride and see what happens. The babip and hr/fb rate will go down but he can still be a very productive player, especially if the rest of the halo lineup starts to get itself together at all, Trout looks like he's ready to start rampaging, maybe he'll pull some others along with him
in a way am personally giving him a mulligan on those 2 months, think he was playing through a tough injury while the club just couldn't afford to give him rest never mind a dl stint- and like NCQB just mentioned, his mid round price range was a bargain, the kind I'll let ride and see what happens. The babip and hr/fb rate will go down but he can still be a very productive player, especially if the rest of the halo lineup starts to get itself together at all, Trout looks like he's ready to start rampaging, maybe he'll pull some others along with him
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:47 AM
Trumbo's average will regress just like it did last year, this guy is a younger Adam Dunn, the power will always be there but so will the K's. I expect him to end the season hitting about .240-.255
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:52 AM
rdubs23, on 06 May 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:
Trumbo's average will regress just like it did last year, this guy is a younger Adam Dunn, the power will always be there but so will the K's. I expect him to end the season hitting about .240-.255
This is ridiculous. A younger Adam Dunn? Are you mad? Dude's BA has risen every single year he's been in the big leagues. Kid's K% the 3 years he's been in the bigs is 20.9%, 26%, 24.8%. Dunn has put up 30, 35, 34, and 32% respectively the last 4 years. 28% for his career which is about 6% higher than Trumbo's career mark.
Trumbo's averages .254 / .268 / .294 vs Dunn who is a career .238 hitter. Trumbo has NEVER hit .240. That's just ridiculous.
People are really lazy with their comps
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:18 PM
rdubs23, on 06 May 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:
Trumbo's average will regress just like it did last year, this guy is a younger Adam Dunn, the power will always be there but so will the K's. I expect him to end the season hitting about .240-.255
He's regressing!
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:18 PM
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 07:37 PM
Looks like he is really coming into his own. Who would have thought they would be pitching around him to get to Hamilton?
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:45 PM
Time to sell high before the yearly cooling?
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:50 PM
Sell high ASAP. BA will go down, just like last year. Metrics don't lie.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 11:52 PM
GJDHouse, on 05 May 2013 - 07:30 AM, said:
This is kind if what he did last year. About half way through the season he looked like he had turned the corner. He then proceeded to tank the second half and kill his averages. Lets hope he can string together a full season this year.
And yes metrics do lie when they don't take into account the health of the player trying to tough it out.
Edited by The Big Bat Theory, 07 May 2013 - 11:53 PM.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:05 AM
Yeah no one in this thread seems to know that his numbers plummeted exactly when he got injured. If he stays healthy I see .280 BA upside, after a few inevitable cold streaks.
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Posted 15 May 2013 - 03:05 PM
Ice cold right now
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Posted 16 May 2013 - 10:04 PM
Yeah, he is struggling right now. Hopefully he picks it up a bit. 0-2 tonight so far.
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Green light 3-0.....TRUMBOMB
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