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Adam Laroche 2013 OutlookGreat 2012, Repeat or Fallout?


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#1 Stanford410

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:44 PM

We all know Laroche was one of the best Free Agent pickups of 2012 because of his outburst. Some may say it was his only big power year however he has always hit 20+ home runs.

[for those who don't know, babip is batting average on balls in play]

in 2004(rookie season and had platooned with Julio Franco) 13 hr in 324 ab's(atl)
2005- 20 hr in 452 ab(atl) .328 babip
2006- 32 hr in 557 ab(atl) .319 babip
2007- 21 hr in 563 ab(pit) .318 babip
2008- 25 hr in 492 ab(pit) .308 babip
2009- 25 hr in 555 ab(3 teams) .328 babip
2010-25 hr in 560 ab(arz) .330 babip
2011-3 hr in 151 ab(wash, injured for 3/4 of season)
2012- 33 hr in 571 ab(wash) .298 babip

He had the lowest babip of his career last season, however hit the most home runs of his career last season as well. The power is there no doubt, but can he hit 30+ and return to the top tier of first baseman (top 5)?will he slide down to the edge of top 10, or be irrelevant for fantasy play this season? anyone have some projections? I dont see a big fallout + i think he will finish as the #7 or #8 1st basemen for 2013.

Im thinking around .265-.272 27-32 hr 99-107 rbi and 560+ ab's

Edited by Stanford410, 05 February 2013 - 11:45 PM.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:39 AM

I have Laroche in every single one of my H2H leagues because he's a second half monster.

His career average OPS in the second half is .886, which from last year's overall numbers would put him right between David Wright and Josh Willingham from last year, or 13th overall.  Last year, his numbers were slightly below average for him, for his second half, but still a very good number.

Another factor is the parks.  He first really broke out with Atlanta, which plays neutral to LH batters in terms of power, but after being traded to Pitsburgh, his numbers took a hit because that is an extreme pitcher's park.  I think he woud've been a consistent 30 HR guy, had he played outside of Pitt.

I think his overall value is as a good 1B, but he has exceptional value in the second half, especially for the price you are paying.  And as long as he isn't hurt, he is consistent about the second half.  The difference last year was really the fact that his first half wasn't horrible, which led to the across the board numbers spike.  Given that he's in a good lineup, in a good park, I think he should replicate the numbers from last year.

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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:25 PM

View PostThe King Maker, on 06 February 2013 - 01:39 AM, said:

I have Laroche in every single one of my H2H leagues because he's a second half monster.

His career average OPS in the second half is .886, which from last year's overall numbers would put him right between David Wright and Josh Willingham from last year, or 13th overall.  Last year, his numbers were slightly below average for him, for his second half, but still a very good number.

Another factor is the parks.  He first really broke out with Atlanta, which plays neutral to LH batters in terms of power, but after being traded to Pitsburgh, his numbers took a hit because that is an extreme pitcher's park.  I think he woud've been a consistent 30 HR guy, had he played outside of Pitt.

I think his overall value is as a good 1B, but he has exceptional value in the second half, especially for the price you are paying.  And as long as he isn't hurt, he is consistent about the second half.  The difference last year was really the fact that his first half wasn't horrible, which led to the across the board numbers spike.  Given that he's in a good lineup, in a good park, I think he should replicate the numbers from last year.
Im hoping he does. Im not really one to keep guys over the age of 30, but he may be the first.
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Posted 06 February 2013 - 11:27 PM

Hitting clean-up with a good supporting cast, provided he stays healthy, I think he can equal his stats from last year.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:31 AM

ESPN is raking him so low... I think he is one of my must drafts this year. Even if his stats fall to .270 25 90 that is still great value for where he is being ranked.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:27 AM

no one cares about his 2 HRs.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:01 PM

Apparently not...I was happy to have him in the lineup, even with a normal first half slump I will take anything positive in the first few months
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C - J. Lucroy
1B - J. Abreu
2B - C. Utley

SS - J. Rollins
3B - D. Wright
OF - C. Gonzalez, J. Upton, J. Bruce
UTIL - K. Calhoun (OF)
UTIL - J. Hamilton (OF)

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DL - E. Encarnacion (1B)


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:02 PM

View Postyaw62, on 10 April 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Apparently not...I was happy to have him in the lineup, even with a normal first half slump I will take anything positive in the first few months

View Postballfan4141, on 10 April 2013 - 10:27 AM, said:

no one cares about his 2 HRs.

Hope he can continue and produce a good power for next few weeks so i can trade him..
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C - Carlos Santana - 1B- Paul GoldSchimdt - 2B-  Kolten Wong - SS- Alexie Ramirez
3B- Adrian Beltre -Util- Cargo & JD Martinez
OF- Melky Cabrera Jay Bruce, Matt Holliday, BN - Matt Carpenter & Choo
SP- MadBum, David Price, Scott Kazmir, Cole Hamels, Sonny Gray,
Gerrit Cole, Johnny Cueto, J.Nelson, Joe Kelly & Trevor Bauer
RP- Perkins, Chapman.

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:29 AM

This dude just hit the wire in my 10 teamer. He had 33 homeruns last year... Is he really sucking that bad?
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1B: Jose Abreu
2B: Dustin Pedroia
SS: Ben Zobrist
3B: Miguel Cabrera
OF: Yasiel Puig, Jose Bautista, Starling Marte
UT: Matt Holiday
Bench: Morse, Jon Singleton, Erick Aybar
SP: James Shields, Johnny Cueto, Chris Archer, Yovani Gallardo
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Posted 11 April 2013 - 10:37 AM

I've watched a lot of Nats games so far and he's been hitting lasers all year. Before the 2HR game, he had a couple balls that would have easily been home runs in the warm weather (announcers said he could easily have 4 by now).

When he hit his first home run ... Showed a coach saying "about time" because he has been hitting well, just unlucky.

I like Laroche to repeat something similar to last year. Batting cleanup for one of, if not, the best team in baseball and feeling comfortable.
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Bats:
C: Yan Gomes 1B: Miguel Cabrera (K) 2B: Jose Altuve 3B: Josh Donaldson SS: Erick Aybar OF: Andrew McCutchen (K), Yoenis Cespedes (K), Corey Dickerson Util: Kole Calhoun B: Alex Rios, JD Martinez DL: Starling Marte

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 11:00 AM

yea i've watched most of his at bats...he's had a lot of good at bats and has hit a lot of balls hard, but right at people...he'll be fine and should be good for close to 30 homers and 100 rbi again, provided he stays healthy.

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C - Salvador Perez
1B - Victor Martinez
2B - Daniel Murphy
3B - David Wright
SS - Ian Desmond
OF - Mike Trout / Yasiel Puig / Alex Gordon / Gregory Polanco
Util - Adrian Gonzalez / Khris Davis
BN - Christian Yelich, Shane Victorino, Ryan Howard
NA - Mookie Betts

SP - Chris Sale / Gio Gonzalez / Mat Latos / John Lackey / Jered Weaver / Kyle Lohse / Hiroki Kuroda / Ian Kennedy / Mike Leake / Drew Smyly / Andrew Heaney
RP - Dellin Betances / Ken Giles

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:27 PM

couldn't squeeze him into my lineup in time tonight because Gattis already played at Util...so, he'll hit 2 HRs...you're welcome!

Man I'm ready for him to catch fire b/c it is fun to watch when he does.

Edited by champy41, 17 April 2013 - 04:31 PM.

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1B-Mark Trumbo (Ari - 1B,OF)
2B-Ian Kinsler (Det - 2B)
3B-Anthony Rendon (Was - 2B,3B)
SS-Erick Aybar (LAA - SS)
OF-Carlos Gonzalez (Col - OF), Jay Bruce (Cin - OF), Kole Calhoun (LAA - OF)
Util-Brock Holt (Bos - 1B,3B,OF), Mike Napoli (Bos - 1B)
DL-Troy Tulowitzki (Col - SS)
DL-George Springer (Hou - OF)

SP-Felix Hernandez (Sea - SP), Jon Lester (Bos - SP), Garrett Richards (LAA - SP,RP), Jake Arrieta (ChC - SP), Jose Quintana (CWS - SP), Danny Duffy (KC - SP,RP), Jacob deGrom (NYM - SP,RP)
RP-Glen Perkins (Min - RP), Francisco Rodriguez (Mil - RP), Sean Doolittle (Oak - RP), Zach Britton (Bal - SP,RP), Santiago Casilla (SF - RP)

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Posted 17 April 2013 - 04:36 PM

when I sit him he hit 2 HRs. maybe I will start him since you sat him but it prb. wont work.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:05 PM

this guy needs to figure it out..3 strikeouts today, last one with the bases loaded..
C - Salvador Perez
1B - Victor Martinez
2B - Daniel Murphy
3B - David Wright
SS - Ian Desmond
OF - Mike Trout / Yasiel Puig / Alex Gordon / Gregory Polanco
Util - Adrian Gonzalez / Khris Davis
BN - Christian Yelich, Shane Victorino, Ryan Howard
NA - Mookie Betts

SP - Chris Sale / Gio Gonzalez / Mat Latos / John Lackey / Jered Weaver / Kyle Lohse / Hiroki Kuroda / Ian Kennedy / Mike Leake / Drew Smyly / Andrew Heaney
RP - Dellin Betances / Ken Giles

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:39 PM

Tyler Moore time.
C   Gomes
1B Goldschmidt
2B Altuve
3B Castellanos
SS Jordy Mercer
OF Puig
OF JD Martinez
Of  Polanco
UTL Jose Abreu

Bench: Calhoun, Ozuna, Uribe, Vogt
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

El golden Sombrero.

I know he will get it together after the ASG, but can I wait that long...
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2B-      Howie Kendrick
3B-      Ryan Zimmerman
SS-      JJ Hardy
1B/3B- Eduardo Escobar
2B/SS- Neil Walker
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RP- Frieri, Chapman, Grilli, Belisario
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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:49 PM

last year his stats were identical pre and post all star break for those thinking about the second half player he is.

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Posted 23 April 2013 - 09:54 PM

View Postballfan4141, on 23 April 2013 - 09:49 PM, said:

last year his stats were identical pre and post all star break for those thinking about the second half player he is.
Ya, but last year was an outlier than the norm.  If you can, best to keep him on the bench first 6-8 weeks, then insert.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 01:33 PM

Dude is unfathomably and comically awful right now. I had an open spot yesterday with the rain out and just sat him anyway to avoid his daily 0-4.

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Posted 27 April 2013 - 03:09 PM

dropping him. someone else can have him.




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