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[GottaGetTheWin]

Now that Vick is staying in Phili with Chip Kelly what can we expect from him?  Good Vick or bad Vick?

[rraayy3]

Insane upside. Even higher injury risk. Could be top 5 fantasy QB. Could play 5 games.

/thread

[RotoRaysfan]

That sound you heard was Nick Foles' redraft value plummeting.

Guess we'll find out just how healthy Vick is - mobility is a must in the read-option, and Vick's best days running the ball are well behind him - from the Eagles' perspective, though, it sounds like they're mortgaging their future by spreading the contract over 3 years, but voidable after the 1st (lower cap hit this year, but dead money in Year 2/3 if Vick is gone).  

I suspect you'll see Vick as the #1, Foles as the backup, and Dennis Dixon as the #3 clipboard guy (and the real backup Kelly has in mind for his specific spread sets).

[rraayy3]

I'm not bothering with Vick, especially with guys like Wilson/Kaepernick emerging as "safer" options with similar scoring potential.

I do think Desean Jackson could be a great value pick at WR in this offense tho, especially with Vick now coming back.

[malta69]

I'm disgusted.....absolutely disgusted

It feels like Jeff Lurie defiled my wife in my bed, took a crap on the sheets halfway out the door and then sent me the bill for the dry cleaning.

[malta69]

GottaGetTheWin, on 11 February 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Now that Vick is staying in Phili with Chip Kelly what can we expect from him?  Good Vick or bad Vick?

More sacks, bad INTs, lost fumbles, injuries and Eagles losses

[malta69]

oh and throwing teammates under the bus

[J.T. Marlin]

All the more reason to wait on QB in 2013 and let things come to you as opposed to selecting a "consensus" top QB with your 1st or 2nd round pick.

Brees, Rodgers, Brady, Cam, PManning, Kaep, Stafford, Luck, RWilson, Ryan, Vick, Romo, RGIII (if ready to go week 1) - that's 13 pretty clear starting fantasy QB's before you even get to guys like Big Ben, EManning, Flacco, Dalton.

[SenatorSpaceman]

I think that Vick and Kelly could be very fantasy friendly together. #7 could do some serious work in that system....assuming the Eagles make it a priority to procure adequate blocking. Obviously you draft Vick expecting him to play about 9-12 games and hope to cash in nicely when he is on the field.

He'll be available late in drafts. I'm actually liking his value for next season as of right now.

[Ribobizert]

Am I the only one here that doesn't think Vick is a good fit Chip Kelly's system?

Kelly runs an option based offense and for it to succeed he needs a mobile QB that can quickly dissect a defense within seconds of the snap and attack its weakness.  Obviously Vick fits the mobility requirement so on the surface it seems to be a good fit, but he doesn't do those other things very well.  If you watch Vick game tape, he make his decision to pass/run from the get go and isn't very good at adjusting to how the defense is reacting to him.  So he missed open WRs when he runs and misses open running lanes when he decides to sit in the pocket (not that his o-lineman really gave him anything resembling a pocket last yr).

There will be times when he busts runs and hurts a defense but there will also be many times he runs when he should pass.  I guess what i'm trying to say is i don't trust Vick to make the correct decision after the snap (possibly even before the snap).  He could be decent in the system but i think the fact that he is going to have to make the decision to hand off, keep it, run, pass, etc. every play puts the offense's success in his decision making, something that he is not known for.  Dare i say it, but i think tebow might have a chance to be successful in this offense and he is going cheap or possibly will be a free agent if the jets can't trade him.

Fantasy outlook: I don't mind taking a late round pick on him, but there is no way I would draft him as my starting QB.  QB is going to be mad deep next year and I think there are easily 12 QBs that are safer bets for your fantasy team starter.

[HashtagHeel]

Just because can still run, it doesn't mean he's a lock to fit the system. Kelly relies on speed. He showed last year, his elusive side isn't as dangerous as it was. He's in the too 15, but no better.

[Blu Exile]

I'm probably drafting Vick next year unless a QB I like slips, but that usually never happens in my league. I'm pretty sure everybody has Vick DOA after the past couple seasons.

[Deadpool]

I don't know why, but I'm getting the feeling Vick is going to be a fantasy monster this year when healthy.  13 games of top 6 QB numbers.

[predator_05]

Might wanna hold off on those projections until he officially wins the job. No guarantee that he starts on week 1.

[RespectMyAuthority]

Chip Kelly isn't gonna run his Oregon Offense in the Pros, he'll create a hybrid Pro-Style version where there's a lot more passing.

[DocJ]

True but it's still going to be fairly run heavy I'd wager.

I really have no clue where to rank Vick this year. All I know is if his adp remains 1-2 rounds below Eli and Romo I'd rather take one of those two than risking the possible headache of drafting Vick.

[starks]

Quote

Michael Vick beat LeSean McCoy in a 40-yard race Thursday.
24-year-old McCoy has been barking at 32-year-old Vick during offseason workouts, calling him an "old man." Per PFT, Vick agreed to a race and "smoked him by five yards." Considering McCoy ran in the 4.5s when he came out of Pitt in 2009, it's impressive. Vick struggled to make big plays in the running game last season, averaging a career-low 5.4 YPC and scoring one touchdown.

Source: Colt Anderson on Twitter

Haha...sign me up. Go ahead and draft Brees, Rodgers...etc and give me a Vick/Eli combo!

[Deadpool]

starks, on 02 May 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Quote

Michael Vick beat LeSean McCoy in a 40-yard race Thursday.
24-year-old McCoy has been barking at 32-year-old Vick during offseason workouts, calling him an "old man." Per PFT, Vick agreed to a race and "smoked him by five yards." Considering McCoy ran in the 4.5s when he came out of Pitt in 2009, it's impressive. Vick struggled to make big plays in the running game last season, averaging a career-low 5.4 YPC and scoring one touchdown.

Source: Colt Anderson on Twitter

Haha...sign me up. Go ahead and draft Brees, Rodgers...etc and give me a Vick/Eli combo!

I am liking the idea of a Eli/Vick combo late if I end up loading up on RB's and WR's.

Edited by Deadpool, 02 May 2013 - 02:18 PM.

[Vupacalypse]

He should've just been a damn RB.

[Deadpool]

Vupacalypse, on 02 May 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

He should've just been a damn RB.

He wouldn't be able to handle the hits.

Who am I kidding, no way I draft him this year after what he did to me last year as my 4th rounder.