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Michael Jordan 2012-2013 Season Outlook


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#1 DK64MASTER

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:50 PM

http://www.thepostga...ould-still-play

I wouldn't doubt that in the right situation with a LeBron (James) on his team or with a Kobe (Bryant) on this team, he could get you about 10 or 11 points, come in and play 15-20 minutes," Jamison told ESPN LA. "I wouldn't doubt that at all, especially if he was in shape and injuries were prevented and things of that nature.


He'd probably help the Bobcats by being on the floor more than being an owner. BTW, has anyone heard anything about Jordan being a coach?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

I guess if you jack up enough shots you can score 10 points a game, but that's sort of meaningless without context. Jordan would get horribly abused in today's NBA.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

I guess if you jack up enough shots you can score 10 points a game, but that's sort of meaningless without context. Jordan would get horribly abused in today's NBA.


How dare you.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:57 PM

Guys like Jordan, Magic, Kareem make the worst coaches. They imagine that players have the same drive they do. They are always disappointed.

As for whether MJ could still get 10 points, I have no doubt he could.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:58 PM

I guess if you jack up enough shots you can score 10 points a game, but that's sort of meaningless without context. Jordan would get horribly abused in today's NBA.

Like Antawn Jamison?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:58 PM

Appreciate the nostalgia but watching him on the Wizards was bad enough..rather keep in my mind the 90s MJ of my youth.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 01:59 PM


I guess if you jack up enough shots you can score 10 points a game, but that's sort of meaningless without context. Jordan would get horribly abused in today's NBA.


How dare you.


I mean 49 year old Jordan, of course.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:01 PM

If he suited up for his own team the Bobcats he would instantly become a top 3 player on the team. And that is not a compliment to his skills at the age of 49, but moreso the putrid talent level on that listless Bobcat team.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

He wasn't really that bad on the Wizards of course nothing like the Bulls Jordan I admit. Seeing him on the bicycle during games was although bad. Jeez.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:23 PM


I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.



He was close.

According to this link he was 28th

http://str8hoops.wor...0-players-2003/

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:24 PM



I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.



He was close.

According to this link he was 28th

http://str8hoops.wor...0-players-2003/


They can't even spell his name right?

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


I enjoy watching him in Washington more. During the first half of his Bulls career, the league hasn't caught up in terms of athleticism. A lot of teams employed short SGs who are 6'3" or 6'4". MJ just basically jumped over them. When Phil Jackson installed the triangle offese it just made everything unfair. Every other team was playing sets, iso, and pos-up, but the Bulls actually had an offensive system. MJ never had to dribble much, he just does catch and shoot all day. In his second championship he didn't even have to play defense as PIppen and Harper handled the most difficult assignments.

His play in Washington was a lot more fun because now he was matched up with players with equal and sometimes superior athleticism, but he was able to overcome when he was healthy. I think he was averaging 25, 6, and 6 the first year before his knee gave him problems? That was just incredible

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:28 PM


I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.


These are his stats in 2001 before his knee problem took him down:

46 games (pre-All Star): 25.1 points, 6.2 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.7 TO

If that's not top 25 I don't know what is.

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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:38 PM



I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.


These are his stats in 2001 before his knee problem took him down:

46 games (pre-All Star): 25.1 points, 6.2 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.7 TO

If that's not top 25 I don't know what is.


Burrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Nice takedown bro.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 02:58 PM



I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.


These are his stats in 2001 before his knee problem took him down:

46 games (pre-All Star): 25.1 points, 6.2 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.7 TO

If that's not top 25 I don't know what is.


These numbers are almost totally without context.

He averaged 22.9 points per game that year but it took him 21.6 shots per game to get those points. He was 333rd/440 players in shooting efficiency.

I'll give him credit for taking care of the ball, he had few turnovers considering his usage and also passed the ball really well. In fact he was pretty good in most aspects of the game but his shooting was so miserable that it completely gutted any value he might have otherwise had on the offensive end.

This is backed up by stats like win shares, which had Jordan in the top 150 or so.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:01 PM




I thought his Wizards tenure was inspirational. Everyone gets old. Being a top 25 player in the NBA at 40 years old is not something everyone can do. It was like that Jimmy Connors match when he was 40.


He was not a top 25 player when he played for the Wizards.


These are his stats in 2001 before his knee problem took him down:

46 games (pre-All Star): 25.1 points, 6.2 rebounds, 5.3 assists, 1.5 steals, 0.5 blocks, 2.7 TO

If that's not top 25 I don't know what is.


These numbers are almost totally without context.

He averaged 22.9 points per game that year but it took him 21.6 shots per game to get those points. He was 333rd/440 players in shooting efficiency.

I'll give him credit for taking care of the ball, he had few turnovers considering his usage and also passed the ball really well. In fact he was pretty good in most aspects of the game but his shooting was so miserable that it completely gutted any value he might have otherwise had on the offensive end.

This is backed up by stats like win shares, which had Jordan in the top 150 or so.


uh-oh. Nice counter. Will we get a rebuttal?
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

Here's some more context. The 40-year-old MJ had low efficiency on a team which included Christian Laettner and 2nd year pro Rip Hamilton. His other starters were Popeye Jones, Chris Whitney, and Kwame Brown.

Man, if there were ever any argument who was that team's first option, and second, and third, I'd love to hear it.
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Posted 11 February 2013 - 03:18 PM

Larry Bird was a fairly successful coach with Pacers.