We all know he came with an elite pedigree... a tall, hard-throwing lefty ... the talent is nothing to dismiss.
last season he had some real nice stretches. he'll be 27 next month.
Last year he increased his GB rate by incorporating the sinker. Plus, Nats are a good team, so there's reason to drink the kool-aid on Ross.
His k/9 (5.75) is still not so great, so im not sure if he's worth a late round bet in mixed leagues.
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Ross Detwiler 2013 Outlookthe next late-blooming lefty
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 10:51 AM
twelve team h2h, 3 keepers
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C/ M. Montero
1B/ Butler
2B/ Pedroia
SS/ Cozart
MI/ Prado
3B/ Machado
CI/ Craig
OF/ CarGo
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
Ut/ Konerko
SP/ Latos, Anibal, De La Rosa, Gallardo, Parker, Fernandez,
Cashner, Detwiler, Parker, Kazmir, Beckett
DL/ Anderson, Hudson
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C/ M. Montero
1B/ Butler
2B/ Pedroia
SS/ Cozart
MI/ Prado
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CI/ Craig
OF/ CarGo
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 11:26 AM
There's a lot to like with Detwiler. Let's just hope Lohse doesn't come in to take his spot in the rotation. I can't guarentee it, but I'm guessing he isn't being drafted all too early in drafts.
Edited by baltimore_boy, 16 February 2013 - 11:27 AM.
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MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
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Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:20 PM
LyondellBasell, on 16 February 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:
We all know he came with an elite pedigree... a tall, hard-throwing lefty ... the talent is nothing to dismiss.
last season he had some real nice stretches. he'll be 27 next month.
Last year he increased his GB rate by incorporating the sinker. Plus, Nats are a good team, so there's reason to drink the kool-aid on Ross.
His k/9 (5.75) is still not so great, so im not sure if he's worth a late round bet in mixed leagues.
last season he had some real nice stretches. he'll be 27 next month.
Last year he increased his GB rate by incorporating the sinker. Plus, Nats are a good team, so there's reason to drink the kool-aid on Ross.
His k/9 (5.75) is still not so great, so im not sure if he's worth a late round bet in mixed leagues.
I like him too. He is another one of my sleepers this year. I'm not too sure the Ks will be there, but he could get a decent amount of wins with that team with a respectable ERA.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:31 PM
How's it looking for Detwiler? Do you all see him having a nice season in the starting rotation (that is if the Nats don't sign Lohse)
I could see him easily getting double digit wins, especially with that team behind him.
I could see him easily getting double digit wins, especially with that team behind him.
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:38 PM
How would you rank him vs. a guy like Lance Lynn?
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:46 PM
Lynn by a country mile
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 12:05 AM
Ned Ryerson, on 18 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Lynn by a country mile
How about vs. a guy like Marcum?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:38 AM
Halo Fan, on 19 March 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:
Ned Ryerson, on 18 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Lynn by a country mile
How about vs. a guy like Marcum?
Lynn>Marcum>>>Detwiler
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2B- J. Altuve
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:42 AM
Detwiler is a very good real life pitcher. Ive been on his train since I scouted him 2 years ago in person when he wrecked my phillies over 6 scoreless at a game I was at. I subsequently bought him for a dollar last year in an nl only and reaped the benefits.
Unfortunately his K numbers will make him nothing more than a spot start stream option or a last roster spot in a mixed league.
Unfortunately his K numbers will make him nothing more than a spot start stream option or a last roster spot in a mixed league.
Edited by cyberer, 19 March 2013 - 10:43 AM.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:36 PM
Halo Fan, on 19 March 2013 - 12:05 AM, said:
Ned Ryerson, on 18 March 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:
Lynn by a country mile
How about vs. a guy like Marcum?
Lynn, Detwiler, then Marcum to me.
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OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
RP - Soriano $25, Henderson $3, Brothers $10, Hector Rondon $2, Valverde $5, Paco Rodriguez $1
C - Castillo $9, Hanigan $4
CI - Sandoval $24, Frazier $10, Alvarez $2, Adams $3, Rendon $5
MI - Castro $27, Segura $16, Gyorko $11, Dietrich $3, Solano $10
OF - BJ Upton $26, Harper $10, Parra $11, Young $5, Moore $5, Taveras $10, Yelich $10, Sappelt $5
SP - Zimmerman $23, Harvey $11, Estrada $11, Minor $8, Corbin $7, Cashner $4, Beachy $3, Wheeler $10
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:03 PM
Unless he boosts his K rate, his ceiling is limited. As a final rotation spot filler though, you can do worse in deep leagues.
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Anymore love for this guy?
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I dont understand how he doesn't have a higher K-rate. He throws 94-96 all game. Has a nasty hook and I'm pretty sure he was working on a change-up or cutter this off-season and spring. It boggles my mind that his k rate is so low
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I like him as a breakout candidate this year, a strong No. 5 starter for a fantasy team. You know the wins are going to be there throwing for the loaded Nats.
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Anyone rolling with him today against Cincy? Hopefully Cincy got its hitting all used up last night!
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:09 AM
This is one of my favorite breakout pitcher predictions. He has always had the stuff to be a big winner. He seems to have always been a little behind in his development as a pitcher. He made big strides last year. I think he's being really undervalued.
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Posted 06 April 2013 - 02:35 PM
i still dont understand how a guy with his stuff can get k's... but still a solid start vs a tough lineup
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bullpen blew his W...but also shows how good he handled this dangerous lineup.
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He was good but not great today. Gets a lot of ground balls, and was helped out by the double play. There is a lot to like here though. Fell behind a little too much for my liking, but he seems very poised, and was great with runners on base. He sat at 92 pretty consistantly, and does well hitting corners. He has a very smooth repeatable delivery which allows him to throw strikes. He did miss up and pay for it a couple of times and I'm guessing when he does get hit this year it will be for that reason. Overall, I was impressed. More k's would be nice, but he seems to be content pitching to contact and inducing ground balls.
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