I figured since I haven't seen it posted anywhere if CBS had any outliers in their rankings system for live drafts. A lot of people in my league will be drafting online this year and I would like to get a leg up on the competition if possible
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, Feb 19 2013 09:43 AM
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM
If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:57 PM
muffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:
If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.
Which sites had the most accurate projections last year?
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM
Baseball Prospectus...The book goes on sale at the end of February...
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Clayton Kershaw $20, Madison Bumgarner $20, Stephen Strasburg $20, Homer Bailey $4, Jeff Samardzija $1, Aroldis Chapman $37, Edward Mujica $7, Trevor Rosenthal $5, Tony Cingrani $19, James Russell $5
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Rob Brantley $4, Nick Hundley $1, Ike Davis $10, Chase Utley $6, Pablo Sandoval $18,Brandon Crawford $1,Jed Gyorko $11, Aramis Ramirez $16, Carlos Gonzalez $25, Andrew McCutchen $20, Giancarlo Stanton $20, Carl Crawford $17, Brandon Belt $8, Domonic Brown $5, Travis Snider $1
Clayton Kershaw $20, Madison Bumgarner $20, Stephen Strasburg $20, Homer Bailey $4, Jeff Samardzija $1, Aroldis Chapman $37, Edward Mujica $7, Trevor Rosenthal $5, Tony Cingrani $19, James Russell $5
Minors: Travis d'Arnaud $5, Gerrit Cole $5, Christian Yelich $5
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:44 PM
But their overall rankings list while in a draft are useful since most people will draft the players they see on their screen instead of scrolling to find guys they want. They might forget about them. For example they have Lawrie ranked 166 overall which to me is a huge value
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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM
Not in a league full of competitive,experienced players.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:25 PM
Zombies, on 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:
Baseball Prospectus...The book goes on sale at the end of February...
Its give you ranking and projection? I guess more what others provides.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:10 PM
muffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:
If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.
@ the OP: Not sure. Haven't looked at their rankings yet.
muffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:
Not in a league full of competitive,experienced players.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:22 PM
muffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:
If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.
Show these rankings of sites you speak of.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:57 PM
I've noticed that my leagues "live draft room" and CBS's top 300 used in mocks aren't the same lists, so I'm confused.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:38 PM
my guess would be that Baseball Prospectus itself ranks said sites...LOL
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:56 PM
cbs fantasy rankings is nice on their site because they have a huge list. you can click on them and get the best situational stats. they give you a paragraph and some people comment. other than that their rankings are not that great.
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:56 PM
how was rotoworlds
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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:14 PM
CBS ranks Catchers absurdly high (Mauer is #18 projected for .315/76/9/79/6) and they put a lot of weight on pitchers as well. They have 12 Catchers in the Top 90... maybe the ranks assume a 2 Catcher league, but they're still bad.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:13 AM
the cbs leagues that are free use two catcher. worst league as far as setup.
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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:52 AM
Red Sox Nation, on 20 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:
I've noticed that my leagues "live draft room" and CBS's top 300 used in mocks aren't the same lists, so I'm confused.
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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:26 PM
When live drafting in a CBS league, some GMs will rely solely on the CBS rankings. It would be helpful to have a side by side comparison of 2013 CBS Rankings v. a rotoworld/razzball/fanball etc. composite ADP/MDP list. This way, a savvy GM can compare the two rankings & find out what players his opponents will be undervaluing and overvaluing (assuming opponents are relying on CBS rankings.) It's an arbitrage play & highly effective.
Hypothetical Example: for whatever reason in the CBS Live draft room, they rank Zobrist at 100 BUT his true value is 75 according to your MDP/ADP list. Therefore, you know where your opponents are targeting him and can reach appropriately and grab him at, say 90.
Anyone else use this strategy? Does anyone have a side by side comparison? If not, from your research, what players does CBS overvalue and undervalue in their rankings? Good luck this year!
Hypothetical Example: for whatever reason in the CBS Live draft room, they rank Zobrist at 100 BUT his true value is 75 according to your MDP/ADP list. Therefore, you know where your opponents are targeting him and can reach appropriately and grab him at, say 90.
Anyone else use this strategy? Does anyone have a side by side comparison? If not, from your research, what players does CBS overvalue and undervalue in their rankings? Good luck this year!
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