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CBS 2013 Rankings


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#1 Triple Short Of a Cycle

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 09:43 AM

I figured since I haven't seen it posted anywhere if CBS had any outliers in their rankings system for live drafts. A lot of people in my league will be drafting online this year and I would like to get a leg up on the competition if possible
14 team head to head points non keeper

C- Jason Castro
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Brad Miller
3B - Josh Donaldson
OF - Andrew McCutchen,Kole Calhoun,Angel Pagan
DH - Aaron Hill

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DL -

SP - Jose Fernandez,James Shields,Gerrit Cole,Justin Masterson
RP - Sergio Romo,Sergio Santos

Bench - Chris Archer,Clay Buchholz,Joe Kelly,Noah Syndergarrd,Yordano Ventura,Drew Smyly,Nathan Eovaldi
DL - Matt Harrison
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#2 muffy1

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.

#3 Steve Jeltz's Jheri Curl

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:57 PM

View Postmuffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.

Which sites had the most accurate projections last year?

#4 Zombies

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

Baseball Prospectus...The book goes on sale at the end of February...

#5 Triple Short Of a Cycle

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:44 PM

But their overall rankings list while in a draft are useful since most people will draft the players they see on their screen instead of scrolling to find guys they want. They might forget about them. For example they have Lawrie ranked 166 overall which to me is a huge value
14 team head to head points non keeper

C- Jason Castro
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Brad Miller
3B - Josh Donaldson
OF - Andrew McCutchen,Kole Calhoun,Angel Pagan
DH - Aaron Hill

Bench -
DL -

SP - Jose Fernandez,James Shields,Gerrit Cole,Justin Masterson
RP - Sergio Romo,Sergio Santos

Bench - Chris Archer,Clay Buchholz,Joe Kelly,Noah Syndergarrd,Yordano Ventura,Drew Smyly,Nathan Eovaldi
DL - Matt Harrison
Trades -

#6 muffy1

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

Not in a league full of competitive,experienced players.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostZombies, on 19 February 2013 - 01:25 PM, said:

Baseball Prospectus...The book goes on sale at the end of February...

Its give you ranking and projection? I guess more what others provides.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:10 PM

View Postmuffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.
I think that's exactly the OPs point/hope. He's saying, "People will be biased towards the rankings they see on-screen. How can I exploit that?"

@ the OP: Not sure. Haven't looked at their rankings yet.

View Postmuffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Not in a league full of competitive,experienced players.
Even then. If nothing else, seeing someone's name in a certain spot creates an anchor price in someone's mind.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:22 PM

View Postmuffy1, on 19 February 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

If you want to get a leg up,don't use CBS rankings/projections. They finished near the bottom last year when compared with the other most used sources for accuracy,which is common.Their 2013 projections look to be as bad as usual. Espn was dead last 2 of last 3 years. The rest of it is on you. Good luck.

Show these rankings of sites you speak of.

#10 Red Sox Nation

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 06:57 PM

I've noticed that my leagues "live draft room" and CBS's top 300 used in mocks aren't the same lists, so I'm confused.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:38 PM

my guess would be that Baseball Prospectus itself ranks said sites...LOL

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

cbs fantasy rankings is nice on their site because they have a huge list. you can click on them and get the best situational stats. they give you a paragraph and some people comment. other than that their rankings are not that great.

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

how was rotoworlds

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Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:14 PM

CBS ranks Catchers absurdly high (Mauer is #18 projected for .315/76/9/79/6) and they put a lot of weight on pitchers as well. They have 12 Catchers in the Top 90... maybe the ranks assume a 2 Catcher league, but they're still bad.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 07:13 AM

the cbs leagues that are free use two catcher. worst league as far as setup.

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Posted 21 February 2013 - 10:52 AM

View PostRed Sox Nation, on 20 February 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

I've noticed that my leagues "live draft room" and CBS's top 300 used in mocks aren't the same lists, so I'm confused.
I've never paid that close of attention to their lists for my own drafts, but I drafted for somebody else once who was doing a H2H points league. And CBS had projected out people's points and that was the ranking in the live draft room. I'm not 100% sure that it was based off of the league-specific scoring, but I think it was.

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Posted 28 March 2013 - 07:26 PM

When live drafting in a CBS league, some GMs will rely solely on the CBS rankings.  It would be helpful to have a side by side comparison of 2013 CBS Rankings v. a rotoworld/razzball/fanball etc. composite ADP/MDP list. This way, a savvy GM can compare the two rankings & find out what players his opponents will be undervaluing and overvaluing (assuming opponents are relying on CBS rankings.)  It's an arbitrage play & highly effective.

Hypothetical Example: for whatever reason in the CBS Live draft room, they rank Zobrist at 100 BUT his true value is 75 according to your MDP/ADP list.  Therefore, you know where your opponents are targeting him and can reach appropriately and grab him at, say 90.

Anyone else use this strategy?  Does anyone have a side by side comparison?  If not, from your research, what players does CBS overvalue and undervalue in their rankings?  Good luck this year!