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JasonPark
Posted 22 February 2013 - 04:06 PM
He's apparently looked good throwing live BP, and says his shoulder feels better than it did before the injury.
He saved 30 games in 2011, with a K/9 of 13.1. Janssen is the closer going into the season, but how do you guys think Santos will perform?
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:43 PM
Personally feel like Jansen is going to have to get hurt or falter before Santos gets a shot... and shoulder injuries in general, when it comes to pitchers, scare the crap out of me.
I could see him come back and pitch very well, but I think it's Jansen's job to lose.
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Posted 22 February 2013 - 06:56 PM
 JFS171, on 22 February 2013 - 06:43 PM, said:
Personally feel like Jansen is going to have to get hurt or falter before Santos gets a shot... and shoulder injuries in general, when it comes to pitchers, scare the crap out of me.
I could see him come back and pitch very well, but I think it's Jansen's job to lose.
But it's Janssen who had the offseason shoulder surgery, right? I think this is definitely a situation to watch. TOR brought Santos in to be the closer, and I expect he will have the job back sometime soon.
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papasmurf
Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:04 PM
Santos is likely gonna start the season at CL, and unless he gets hurt, probably won't give it back.
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:20 PM
papasmurf, on 02 March 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:
Santos is likely gonna start the season at CL, and unless he gets hurt, probably won't give it back.
Unless of course he pitches like he did in the 2nd half of 2011, or the beginning of 2012 before being injured. I guess what I'm getting at is Santos has had about a half a year as a good closer and is no lock to hang onto the job.
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dod959
Posted 02 March 2013 - 04:47 PM
Santos's stuff is unfair. Best slider in the game arguably .
Janssen's hurt right now. Santos will save 30 games this season I'd say.
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motown magic
Posted 03 March 2013 - 10:19 AM
Janssen will be back this week and show why he is the closer. Saved 23/25 games last year. Its his job to lose unless of course he isn't ready.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 02:27 PM
2Balls, on 02 March 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:
papasmurf, on 02 March 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:
Santos is likely gonna start the season at CL, and unless he gets hurt, probably won't give it back.
Unless of course he pitches like he did in the 2nd half of 2011, or the beginning of 2012 before being injured. I guess what I'm getting at is Santos has had about a half a year as a good closer and is no lock to hang onto the job.
I agree but I think Santos is capable of holding the job. He's a guy I'm hoping to get on the cheap, figuring someone will assume Janssen is going to get the job back easily and return quickly. I think if Santos pitches good, he'll hold onto the job once Janssen returns unless he starts coughing up leads like crazy or is already slumping before Janssen returns. He's one of these guys who strikes me as the type to be great or very mediocre-- not a lot of room for in between...
If he can keep the walks under control and not give up long balls, I think he'll be fine... 35 saves isn't unrealistic to expect. Similar to the Storen situation last year, I think the hot-hand in the Jays' pen will wind up holding the job into the season... unless no one emerges prior to Janssen's return. It's a situation to monitor early on, as they could generate a good number of saves. But I would be investing my pebbles in Santos if I'm picking one arm from their bullpen for saves.... at least as of now. Going to eyeball him through spring training for velocity reports and stuff, and just to eye his overall numbers as a whole...
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Posted 04 March 2013 - 05:00 PM
Quote Unless of course he pitches like he did in the 2nd half of 2011, or the beginning of 2012 before being injured. I guess what I'm getting at is Santos has had about a half a year as a good closer and is no lock to hang onto the job.
I think you mean Sep. 2011. He was fine in the 2nd half overall. Might have been hurt in Sep. I don't know. He basically had 2 bad months and 4 very good to great ones.
For a late round pick, it'd be stupid to not take a shot at Santos for cheap saves. Let someone else take Janssen then pounce on Santos.
I am not high about Janssen this yr. Teams and players tend to downplay injuries. For a "minor" procedure, he's not recovering fast.
If Santos gets off to a good start, I think he hangs on to the job. At the very least, he's gonna give him a great K rate.
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papasmurf
Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:20 PM
Is Santos hurt again? Nowhere to be seen despite 8th inning and 2 run lead.
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Posted 10 April 2013 - 09:31 PM
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