What projections do we have for the Greatest of All Time? He is coming back from surgery on his knee. Not arm or shoulder injury. Is 35 saves 2.25 era 1.05 whip 60 k's reasonable?
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Mariano Rivera 2013 Outlook
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 09:44 PM
no one. really?
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Posted 02 March 2013 - 10:05 PM
The funny thing is that your numbers, while very reasonable, would describe a poor year by Mariano's career standards. Dude is just remarkable... and most of his best seasons have come in the second half of his long career.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:16 AM
I hate to say it but I think he will re injure his knee, I don't think this final year will be anywhere near what he has put up in his HOF career
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 10:02 PM
Sounds like 2013 will be the Mariano Rivera farewell tour.....one last trek around the American League.
Good for him....if anyone deserves to retire on their own terms, it's him.
Good for him....if anyone deserves to retire on their own terms, it's him.
Do you really care who is on my team? I have Mike Trout and Arian Foster in keeper leagues in their respective sports.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:17 PM
12 men have walked on the moon, 11 men have scored against Mariano Rivera in the playoffs.
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Posted 11 March 2013 - 07:54 PM
This might be the year I end up with Mo. I don't believe he has ever been on my roster since he started his career.
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Posted 12 March 2013 - 10:06 AM
My projections for him are good but a distinct notch below Mariano's standard:
43 IP / 2 W / 30 Sv / 2.92 ERA / 1.14 WHIP / 39 K / 8.03 Ks per 9
43 IP / 2 W / 30 Sv / 2.92 ERA / 1.14 WHIP / 39 K / 8.03 Ks per 9
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Posted 07 April 2013 - 09:50 PM
Rivera made his final trip to Detroit today. Announcers shared that he hadn't blown a save v. Detroit since 1999. 23 straight. And that was in old Tiger Stadium, before Comerica Park was built. Impressive.
Farewell, Mariano
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 09:08 AM
so far so good.... 10 saves in April.. Keep it going mariano!
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:04 AM
I predict 42 saves
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 10:32 AM
All I know is as a Yanks fan at the end of this year, it will be a sad time for me as a fan.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
10 Team H2H 8X8 Mixed League, 4 BN, 2 DL's & 1 NA - 50 Total Moves for the Year
Scoring Categories (R, HR, RBI, SB, K, TB, AVG, OBP / W, L, SV, HR ALLWD, K, HLDS, ERA, WHIP)
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BN - D. Fowler (OF), E. Cabrera (2B/SS), M. Moreland (1B)
SP - Y. Darvish, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, W. Miley, M. Garza, B. McCarthy, K. Gausman
RP - M. Rivera, A. Reed, G. Balfour, T. Rosenthal
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 12:01 PM
yaw62, on 01 May 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:
All I know is as a Yanks fan at the end of this year, it will be a sad time for me as a fan.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
One of the...if not THE Greatest Yankee ever. Total Class Act, best Closer in the history of the game IMO...but I am a jaded Yankees fan.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 12:30 PM
Damn Yankee, on 01 May 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:
yaw62, on 01 May 2013 - 10:32 AM, said:
All I know is as a Yanks fan at the end of this year, it will be a sad time for me as a fan.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
The Yanks will be like every other MLB team with some normal RP jogging out to the mound hoping to close a game, and not MO.
One of the...if not THE Greatest Yankee ever. Total Class Act, best Closer in the history of the game IMO...but I am a jaded Yankees fan.
Best closer ever? Yeah, in the short history of the position, I'll agree...he's the best, so far. Greatest Yankee ever? Ummm...one of his own current teammates, along with probably at least 5-10 others who are current HOFers and legends of the game say, "Hello!"
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 01:07 PM
I can't speak about Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle or Joe D because I never saw them play live. But from what I know, those are the only guys I'm putting ahead of Mo, and that includes Jeter.
Mo was THAT good, and that important on those 5 championships. Jeter was great and all, had spectacular moments, but Mo shut down and locked up games.
And the response from most will mention the AZ series in 01'... Dude gave up a broken bat single...
Mo was THAT good, and that important on those 5 championships. Jeter was great and all, had spectacular moments, but Mo shut down and locked up games.
And the response from most will mention the AZ series in 01'... Dude gave up a broken bat single...
10 Team H2H 8X8 Mixed League, 4 BN, 2 DL's & 1 NA - 50 Total Moves for the Year
Scoring Categories (R, HR, RBI, SB, K, TB, AVG, OBP / W, L, SV, HR ALLWD, K, HLDS, ERA, WHIP)
"Love Me Long-o-Time"
C - M. Wieters
1B - A. Laroche
2B - B. Phillips
SS - I. Desmond
3B - E. Longoria
OF - R. Braun, B. Harper, H. Pence
UTIL - A. Gonzalez (1B/OF)
BN - D. Fowler (OF), E. Cabrera (2B/SS), M. Moreland (1B)
SP - Y. Darvish, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, W. Miley, M. Garza, B. McCarthy, K. Gausman
RP - M. Rivera, A. Reed, G. Balfour, T. Rosenthal
DL - B. Beachy, A. Ogando
NA - Z. Wheeler
Scoring Categories (R, HR, RBI, SB, K, TB, AVG, OBP / W, L, SV, HR ALLWD, K, HLDS, ERA, WHIP)
"Love Me Long-o-Time"
C - M. Wieters
1B - A. Laroche
2B - B. Phillips
SS - I. Desmond
3B - E. Longoria
OF - R. Braun, B. Harper, H. Pence
UTIL - A. Gonzalez (1B/OF)
BN - D. Fowler (OF), E. Cabrera (2B/SS), M. Moreland (1B)
SP - Y. Darvish, G. Gonzalez, M. Moore, W. Miley, M. Garza, B. McCarthy, K. Gausman
RP - M. Rivera, A. Reed, G. Balfour, T. Rosenthal
DL - B. Beachy, A. Ogando
NA - Z. Wheeler
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 02:08 PM
yaw62, on 01 May 2013 - 01:07 PM, said:
I can't speak about Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle or Joe D because I never saw them play live. But from what I know, those are the only guys I'm putting ahead of Mo, and that includes Jeter.
Mo was THAT good, and that important on those 5 championships. Jeter was great and all, had spectacular moments, but Mo shut down and locked up games.
And the response from most will mention the AZ series in 01'... Dude gave up a broken bat single...
Mo was THAT good, and that important on those 5 championships. Jeter was great and all, had spectacular moments, but Mo shut down and locked up games.
And the response from most will mention the AZ series in 01'... Dude gave up a broken bat single...
Agreed...what people seem to forget about Rivera is that he was a two-inning closer so many times. I remember all the talk about Torre misusing him during that run...bringing him into the game in the 8th inning so many times. The NY Press thought he would ruin Rivera....nope, he just mowed 'em down time after time.
BTW...I amend my statement that he's the greatest Yankee..or one of...during my era. Jeter? Man crush on the guy...and Nettles, and Reggie, and Goose, and Guidry, and Munson, and Bernie, etc. My Dad...a huge fan of Mo, but can't put him over Mantle or DiMaggio....refuses. Can't forget that guy Ruth.
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Posted 01 May 2013 - 02:11 PM
Dude did it with ONE PITCH better than anyone could do it with 2, 3, or 4.
That's the best part of his legend. ONE PITCH. Everyone knew it was coming yet more often than not they could not hit it.
Amazing.
That's the best part of his legend. ONE PITCH. Everyone knew it was coming yet more often than not they could not hit it.
Amazing.
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:27 AM
Is there any chance of Mo deciding not retiring? Especially since it looks like this year is going to be a good one, could he decide he's got another year or more in him or is this definitely it?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 04:39 AM
Nope, as a die hard yankee fan I can tell you this is in fact his last year no matter what. The Yankees could offer him 30 million for 1 year and he would deny because he personally has decided it is time to call it quits. He is without a shout of a doubt the BEST CLOSER IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. He is even proving it this year and I GUARANTEE he ends the year with a sub 2 era and sub 1 whip. He is just that GREAT. I will miss him dearly.
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