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Doug Fister 2013 Outlook


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#1 nittanychris

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 11:31 AM

Just wondering why this is the first post for this man for the 2013 Season Outlook. He pitches for probably the best team in baseball, has a great whip, K rate improved a lot and he's in his prime pitching years at 29 y.o. I think he is criminally underrated. What do people think?

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 12:21 PM

He's a stud 3/4 pitcher in leagues that can pitch like a number 2, potentially number 1 if he can stay healthy.

I really really like Fister.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 01:50 PM

I was expecting a lot more out of him in 2012 after he came over from Seattle. 10-10 with a 3.45 ERA on a team that hits like the Tigers is hard to figure out. I'm hoping he is over looked this year in drafts. I hoping for 16 - 18 wins if he can stay healthy with the lineup the Tigers have.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 06:32 PM

View Postrabaak, on 03 March 2013 - 01:50 PM, said:

I was expecting a lot more out of him in 2012 after he came over from Seattle. 10-10 with a 3.45 ERA on a team that hits like the Tigers is hard to figure out. I'm hoping he is over looked this year in drafts. I hoping for 16 - 18 wins if he can stay healthy with the lineup the Tigers have.

I think he will easily have more wins this years (although I try not to project wins) but he will be a good contributer to every pitching category besides saves.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 06:41 PM

Fister is always a solid value.  Plus he brings the allure of hilarious team name puns (ie Fister Pujols or Fister Braun Eye or Fister with your Stubbs).  Okay okay enough with that.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:07 PM

what's up with this rotoworld blurb?



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Doug Fister fell to 0-2 this spring after giving up four runs in three innings against the Blue Jays.
Fister hasn't pitched well in any of his three starts so far; he's given up a homer in each and amassed an 11.57 ERA. It's too early to start being concerned, but then, we don't have particularly high hopes for Fister this year anyway.


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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:07 PM

View Postwildo7, on 09 March 2013 - 06:07 PM, said:

what's up with this rotoworld blurb?



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Doug Fister fell to 0-2 this spring after giving up four runs in three innings against the Blue Jays.
Fister hasn't pitched well in any of his three starts so far; he's given up a homer in each and amassed an 11.57 ERA. It's too early to start being concerned, but then, we don't have particularly high hopes for Fister this year anyway.


Not sure who wrote that.  Most projections I've seen for this guy are very positive.  Mid 3s ERA, very good WHIP, average Ks, and solid W total.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 08:54 PM

Probably a writer who wants him on his own fantasy team.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:40 PM

I like him because you can get him for pennies at auction. I don't particularly like his upside but his floor is pretty high. If you have a staff with a lot of risk I like him late, but if you really need a homerun in the endgame, you can shoot higher for upside.
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:26 AM

has Fister changed much sicne the minors?
I'm wondering if he is overrated.
career minor league 4.34 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 6.69 K/9.
career major league to date. 3.48 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 6.08 K/9.
he has careeer 8.84 H/9, with 8.68 H/9 in 2012.
he has career 85.1% contact % with 81.1% in 2012.
he hardly walks anyone which is good, so that's a plus.

Edited by SpecialFNK, 10 March 2013 - 08:26 AM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:12 AM

View PostSpecialFNK, on 10 March 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

has Fister changed much sicne the minors?
I'm wondering if he is overrated.
career minor league 4.34 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 6.69 K/9.
career major league to date. 3.48 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 6.08 K/9.
he has careeer 8.84 H/9, with 8.68 H/9 in 2012.
he has career 85.1% contact % with 81.1% in 2012.
he hardly walks anyone which is good, so that's a plus.

Why do you care about his minor league numbers when he's 29 and has over 600 major league innings?

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:24 AM

Great article by Dave Cameron last year about Fister--

http://www.fangraphs...e-mike-mussina/
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2009-10 B-Ball: 2nd Place
2010 Baseball: 3rd Place
2010-11 FB: 3rd Place
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2011-12 B-Ball: 3rd Place
2012 Baseball: 2nd Place
2012-13 FB: 3rd Place
2012-13 B-Ball: 4th Place
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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostCM52, on 10 March 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

View PostSpecialFNK, on 10 March 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

has Fister changed much sicne the minors?
I'm wondering if he is overrated.
career minor league 4.34 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 6.69 K/9.
career major league to date. 3.48 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 6.08 K/9.
he has careeer 8.84 H/9, with 8.68 H/9 in 2012.
he has career 85.1% contact % with 81.1% in 2012.
he hardly walks anyone which is good, so that's a plus.

Why do you care about his minor league numbers when he's 29 and has over 600 major league innings?

if he wasn't that good in the minors and was average/below average his first 2 years in the majors, then he's not likely to become good, unless he changed how he pitches. according to the article posted, that is what happened.
his success over the last 2 years could have been a factor of luck.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 09:48 PM

Everything I read about him indicates growth in his underlying skills. Pitching on a great team with a decent pitchers park is just icing on the cake. Like where he's headed for 2013, I'm buying.
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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:45 PM

pretty terrible spring thusfar... we care?

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 12:48 PM

as much as we care about Kazmirs

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 02:03 PM

Not sure I get that one

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

Big Tiger fan and I have watched him quite a few times. He possesses excellent control and feel for his off-speed pitches. When he has everything going he can mow through a big league lineup with a low pitch count and sometimes decent K totals from game to game. After watching him last year struggle with a lat injury, I believe he is a pitcher who will get stronger as the season goes on. When he came back fromt he injury he was off. Giving up hard hit balls and home runs. However, like the season before after being traded to the Tigers, he pitched like an ace in the second half, posting a 2.67 ERA and 1.04 WHIP in 15 post-break starts.Keep in mind for whatever reason he has been striking people a lot more since the trade in 2011. I think if you draft him as a #3 or #4 SP, your going to like what you get from him. Anything higher than that is taking some risk, but it still could pay off as he has pitched like an ace in the past for periods of time.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:52 AM

Ok fellas....who's got him in their lineup today???  Not exactly the Bombers of old..
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 10:58 AM

no brainer start
I will never draft Francisco Liriano ever again.




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