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Tony Cingrani 2013 OutlookLikely to get the call and replace Cueto.


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#1 PRoSPx

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

Cingrani won't be 24 until June this year.

Last year at AA he 2.12 ERA, 10.19 K/9, and a 1.10 WHIP.

At the major league level in 5 innings he struck out 9 batters (40.9% of the batters he faced).

Cingrani no doubt has a high upside arm with great strike out potential.


With talks of Aroldis moving into the starting rotation this guy could be who takes over the 9th inning.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:40 PM

He was indeed very impressive last year.  But everything I read points to Cingrani going to the minors to work on his secondary stuff.  Even if the Reds suffer and injury to their staff in spring training, they have 6 legitamate SP's for only 5 spots.  Reds seem fine with Broxton as their closer.
Sucks as I picked him up last year in my dynasty league late last year hoping he could break with the big club this spring.  But I like him so much, i might just hold onto him.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

I see this from a different perspective. With Chapman moving to the starting rotation I think there is a good chance he gets hurt early. Example Neftali Feliz. Chapman has never been a starter in the majors. Leake is not consistent at all in the rotation. We've seen that in the last few seasons. I think Cingrani gets a shot at a rotation spot at the first available opportunity.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 07:44 PM

View Postpoopdungbeatle, on 03 March 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:

He was indeed very impressive last year.  But everything I read points to Cingrani going to the minors to work on his secondary stuff.  Even if the Reds suffer and injury to their staff in spring training, they have 6 legitamate SP's for only 5 spots.  Reds seem fine with Broxton as their closer.
Sucks as I picked him up last year in my dynasty league late last year hoping he could break with the big club this spring.  But I like him so much, i might just hold onto him.

Yeah they may want him to be a starter.  He was a closer in college and converted to a SP in the minors.

He just seems to me to be the natural person to take over for Aroldis if he goes to the rotation.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 08:08 PM

Very little chance this guy is a reliever.  He's been brought up a starter all throughout his career, never been a reliever except once in his rookie year.  There's literally no evidence that he will relieve.
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Posted 03 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

View PostPRoSPx, on 03 March 2013 - 07:33 PM, said:

Cingrani won't be 24 until June this year.

Last year at AA he 2.12 ERA, 10.19 K/9, and a 1.10 WHIP.

At the major league level in 5 innings he struck out 9 batters (40.9% of the batters he faced).

Cingrani no doubt has a high upside arm with great strike out potential.


With talks of Aroldis moving into the starting rotation this guy could be who takes over the 9th inning.

They signed Broxton to close and have a very deep and capable bullpen with Marshall, Hoover, LeCure who could all be in the closing mix if Broxton goes down or is ineffective.

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:00 PM

I wrote this up on him in our MiLB forum in July of last season, here's some info and video on Cingrani. In short, good size, life/movement on his fastball, hides the ball pretty well, but his secondary stuff is definitely a work in progress.

Below is what I wrote last year here:

Interesting story in this kid who has been flying up the charts this year as a prospect. Anyone else remember him as Rice's closer? He was straight nasty - after reading some on him he was a failed starter at Rice and they turned him into a closer.

After Cincy took him in the 3rd round they swapped him back into the SP role where he was absolutely been dominate. He's currently 23, tall lefty - and has gotten positive marks on deception and creating nasty elevational planes due to his height. Even though he topped at 96-97 as a closer, he lives more in the 90-95 range w/ movement as a starter. Baseball America ranked him as the Reds #15 prospect going into the season, and said his changeup was solid with late fade that he has confidence in, and noted he needs to work on a breaking ball to have success past A ball.

Well - something has changed with this kid because after dominated Rookie ball(Billings) last year to a tune of 50IP, 35H, 6BB, 80Ks, 14k/9, 1.75ERA,  .80 WHIP he had similar success in A ball(Bakersfield) to start this season 56.2IP, 36H, 13BB, 71Ks, 1.11ERA.

Took the big jump to AA and has still completely dominated, K numbers have fallen off a touch. 42IP, 26H, 15BB, 50Ks, 1.50 ERA. That's 3 levels of complete domination now for this kid. He doesn't seem to have awe inspiring stuff that I've seen written about him but you can't knock the results. One knock due to being in Cincy's system - he tends to be a fly ball pitcher - not a plus for GABP

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Posted 03 March 2013 - 09:15 PM

FearTheBeard. I remember reading your write up on him last year in the MILB Forum. Thats when I started paying attention to him. I dont think there is any reason not to give this guy a shot if the opportunity presents itself. Solid stats from everything I have seen including his brief time in the Majors. They drafted him in the 3rd round which means they had high hopes for him. Not many players get drafted that high in order to be Relievers. I see him starting at some point this season.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:42 PM

Cueto just exited the game with what looked like pain in his arm.  If he's on the DL maybe Cingrani gets called up.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 07:45 PM

View PostAdam_Baum, on 13 April 2013 - 07:42 PM, said:

Cueto just exited the game with what looked like pain in his arm.  If he's on the DL maybe Cingrani gets called up.
Yep.  That's what they've said....worth monitoring right away.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

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John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer suspects that Tony Cingrani might take Johnny Cueto's rotation spot.
Cueto suffered a triceps injury during his start Saturday night against the Pirates and will probably be out for a little while. Cingrani, 23, owns a sparkling 1.63 ERA and 11.7 K/9 in 209 2/3 career minor league innings. He'd carry good fantasy value for however long he's up.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:48 PM

Damn, I've reached the transaction limit for the week...argggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:54 PM

View Postdisasterisk, on 13 April 2013 - 08:48 PM, said:

Damn, I've reached the transaction limit for the week...argggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Me too shyttttttt. Hopefully tomorrow at 1 pm nobody will have picked him up.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 08:56 PM

Ideally, he gets called up, then pitches well enough to force them to move Leake into the pen when Cueto comes back

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:01 PM

View Postexaulz, on 13 April 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

Ideally, he gets called up, then pitches well enough to force them to move Leake into the pen when Cueto comes back

In my case, ideally there is no info on him getting called up until Monday morning when my league's transactions limit resets!
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:10 PM

From a few days ago:

http://cincinnati.co...-stick-to-plan/

The Reds considered calling him up after Marshall got hurt.

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“He’s our first call-up if one of our starters goes down,” Baker said. “He still has to work on his breaking ball. We kicked around Cingrani. It’s just that we didn’t want to impede his progress as a starter. If anything happens to one of my starters, we don’t have a whole of quality backup.”

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:12 PM

Hope this guy does well cause my pitching is sure in need of a boost.

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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:23 PM

Cingrani era about to begin.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:34 PM

The added plus is that he has RP eligibility as well.
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Posted 13 April 2013 - 09:48 PM

View Postcrazybob60, on 13 April 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

The added plus is that he has RP eligibility as well.

Yeah that is nice. The MiLB numbers are fantastic and even though a lot of scouts aren't wowed by the guy, I picked him up. The numbers are just too nasty to ignore.
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