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Cliff Lee 2013 Outlook


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#1 gbill2004

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

Thoughts/projections for Cliff Lee this season?
Competitive start 2 QB, 0.5 PPR, 12 team H2H deep re-draft league, all TDs = 6 pts. Roster below (starting spots in brackets):

QB (2) - Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, Brandon Weeden, Terrelle Pryor
RB/FLEX (3) - Trent Richardson, Darren Sproles, Chris Ivory, Ronnie Hillman, Lance Dunbar, Knile Davis, Robert Turbin, Andre Ellignton
WR (4) - Roddy White, Vincent Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Miles Austin, Justin Blackmon, Ruben Randle
TE (2) - Jimmy Graham, Jason Witten, Jordan Reed
K (2) - Garrett Hartley, Randy Bullock
DEF (2) - San Francisco, Minnesota, Philadelphia
IDP (4) - D'Qwell Jackson, NaVorro Bowman, Chad Greenway, Kiko Alonso

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Yes, this guy somehow ended up on all 6 of my teams this year. I must REALLY like his yahoo ADP value.
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QB Aaron Rodgers
WR Brandon Marshall
WR A.J. Green
WR Dez Bryant
RB Matt Forte
RB Jamaal Charles
TE Rob Gronkowski
K Matt Prater
DEF Streaming
Bench: Cecil Shorts III, Steven Ridley, Harry Douglas, Le'Veon Bell, Zac Stacy, Danny Amendola

#3 rasto21585

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM

Expect elite stats but wins
14 team h2h keeper

pg damian lillard
g martel webster
sg james harden
sf kevin durant
f john henson
pf derrek favors
c al jefferson
c demarcus cousins
util channing frye
util Jeff Teague
bn ben mclemore
bn Lou Williams
bn brendan wright

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

Stud.  K/BB is awesome.
20 team keeper H2H (took over the team), standard Yahoo.  Keepers below.  NA's get put into NA slots (5 max)
C:  d'Arnaud 1B: Eric Hosmer 2B: Brad Miller SS: Owings 3B: Manny Machado OF: Stanton OF: Heyward OF: Myers
Util:  Jose Abreu Bench: Avila, Schoop, Solarte, Baez (NA)
SP: Homer Bailey SP: Shelby Miller RP: Rosenthal RP: Soria P: Motte, Broxton, Withrow, Storen, Allen, Webb
Bench: Pineda, Ryu, Stroman and Meyer (Both NA's)
Trades: 1) Taijuan Walker and 5th rounder for Ryu and 4th rounder

Money league Roto
C- Carlos Sant 1B) Mash Abreu 2b) Altuve 3b) E5 SS) Rollins OF- McCutch, Harper, Werth Util- Melky Springer
Bench: Hosmer, Hill, McCann NAs: Bryant
SPs:  Sale, Cain, Ventura, Hudson Garza RA Dickey RPs:  Reed Balfour Papelbon Farnsworth  DL- Walker
Trades: 1) Joey Bats and Panda for E5 and Werth 2) Morse for RA Dickey 3) Soria for Garza 4) Braun and Mesoraco for McCutch and McCann

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM

View Postclutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

The Phillies have a lousy offense this year.  Their OF is only a little better than the Mets.  If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best.  Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!).  Michael Young.  And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard.  I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.
FRBRL 1995-present.  12-team 4x4 Roto auction, NL-only.
C: Mesoraco, Grandal
1/3: Goldschmidt, Prado, Ishikawa
2/S: Wong, Cozart, J Arias
O/U: C Gomez, Crawford, C Young, Mayberry, Culberson, C Ross
SP: Strasburg, Cain, Morton, Mejia, T Jordan
RP: Kimbrel, Valverde, Clippard, Ramos, the Beard
Min: B Goodwin, Alcantara, Piscotty
DL: Fujikawa, Scutaro

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostBen Edelman, on 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

View Postclutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

The Phillies have a lousy offense this year.  Their OF is only a little better than the Mets.  If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best.  Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!).  Michael Young.  And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard.  I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.

I asked that because wins are notoriously difficult to predict. I don't think anyone expected Lee to win just 6 games last year. That said, I think 14 wins is a reasonable projection. It shouldn't really be a significant factor in evaluating SP's, though.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

I've got him as my #6 SP behind Kershaw, Verlander, Strasburg, Price and Hernandez. Stud.

Was a top 10, maybe even top 5 pitcher in baseball last year despite stupid Wins and Losses

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K and gets a WIN(this is not a joke)

All vs a very strong ATL lineup. Love watching this guy pitch.
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Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C, 1B)
1B - Edwin Encarnacion (Tor - 1B, 3B)
2B - Robinson Cano (Sea - 2B)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (Det - 3B)
SS - Jean Segura (MIL - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Matt Kemp (LAD - CF)
RF - Allen Craig (StL - 1B, LF, RF)
Util - David Wright (NYM - 3B)
BN - Oswaldo Arcia (Min - LF, RF), Matt Carpenter (StL - 1B, 2B, 3B, RF), Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
Pitchers:(5 SP/5 RP)
Starters: Clayton Kershaw(DL), Cole Hamels(DL), Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jordan Zimmermann, Corey Kluber, Jered Weaver, Ivan Nova, Hiroki Kuroda, Enny Romero
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Greg Holland, Sean Doolittle, Sergio Santos, Carlos Martinez
Farm System: George Springer(HOU - OF), Andrew Heaney(Mia - SP),Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Jose Martinez(Ari - SP), Hunter Dozier(KC - SS/3B), Adalberto Mejia(SF - SP)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

Nice start to the year.  It's good to see this after the numerous bouts of tough luck last year.
12-Team H2H Re-Draft 6x6 (Runs, AVG, HRs, RBIs, BBs, Steals) (Ws, Ls, Ks, ERA, WHIP, Saves)

C Russell Martin ©
1B Adrian Gonzalez (1B) || Adam Dunn (1B, LF) || Mitch Moreland (1B)
2B Howie Kendrick (2B)
3B Nolan Arenado (3B) || Hanley Ramirez (3B, SS) || Will Middlebrooks (3B)
SS Jimmy Rollins (SS)
LF Carlos Gonzalez (LF) || Michael Saunders (LF, CF, RF)
CF Mike Trout (LF, CF) || Dexter Fowler (CF)
RF Jose Bautista (RF) || Daniel Nava (LF, RF)

SP Cole Hamels || Jeff Samardzija || Lance Lynn || Mike Minor || Jeff Locke || Jeremy Hellickson || David Phelps || Bartolo Colon || Kevin Gausman
RP Tom Wilhelmsen || Glen Perkins

My credentials: Data analyst as my day job, have played fantasy baseball for two seasons, first-place in 10-team Roto my first season and first-place in 12-team H2H my second season.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

Surprised to see only 2 posts after this gem
14 team head to head points non keeper

C- Jason Castro
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Brad Miller
3B - Josh Donaldson
OF - Andrew McCutchen,Kole Calhoun,Angel Pagan
DH - Aaron Hill

Bench -
DL -

SP - Jose Fernandez,James Shields,Gerrit Cole,Justin Masterson
RP - Sergio Romo,Sergio Santos

Bench - Chris Archer,Clay Buchholz,Joe Kelly,Noah Syndergarrd,Yordano Ventura,Drew Smyly,Nathan Eovaldi
DL - Matt Harrison
Trades -

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

Looked vintage today. Great way to start the year.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

pitched great. would ve given a up a HR to freeman for sure in other conditions. but overall a great start.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

His innings were so economical tonight. Love watching him pitch. 17 first pitch strikes to 26 batters, 78 strikes out of 106 pitches.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

its funny how he throws so many strikes that it ends up being a bad thing from time to time.
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QB Matt Ryan $26
RB Chris Johnson $26
RB David Wilson $16
WR A.J. Green $34
WR Demaryius Thomas $28
TE Jermichael Finley $5
K Blair Walsh $2
DEF St. Louis Rams $1

BEN QB Josh Freeman $2
BEN RB Ahmad Bradshaw $6
BEN RB Giovani Bernard $7
BEN RB Shonn Green $1
BEN RB Ronnie Hillman $1
BEN WR Mike Williams $2
BEN WR Josh Gordon $2
BEN WR Ryan Broyles $1

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

Great to see against another top starter in Medlen and a great hitting team.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:31 AM

This guy dropped to me at pick

View Postklove42, on 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start

Grabbed him at no 49 in my 14 man league, an ace of his caliber at that point was too good to pass up.  Top 5 all day, regardless of whether he gets pointless wins (dumbest stat in sports).

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

I got him at 51 and 62 in my final two drafts.

Edited by cowbell204, 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

Run support for Lee? What is this?!?!
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