Thoughts/projections for Cliff Lee this season?
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Cliff Lee 2013 Outlook
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:03 PM
Competitive Yahoo 8 team H2H deep league. Starting roster spots in brackets:
C (2) - Buster Posey, Mike Napoli
1B (2) - Adrian Gonzalez, Billy Butler
2B (2) - Ben Zobrist, Brandon Phillips, Neil Walker
3B (2) - Hanley Ramirez, Ryan Zimmerman, Mark Reynolds
SS (2) - Andrelton Simmons, Martin Prado
OF (4) - Andrew McCutchen, Matt Kemp, Matt Holliday, Sin-Soo Choo, Staring Marte, BJ Upton
DL (1) - Jose Reyes
SP (4) - Cliff Lee, Matt Cain, Gio Gonzalez, RA Dickey, Andy Pettitte, Alex Cobb, Wandy Rodriguez, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Scott Kazmir
RP (2) - Jose Valverde, Ernesto Frieri, Kenley Jansen
C (2) - Buster Posey, Mike Napoli
1B (2) - Adrian Gonzalez, Billy Butler
2B (2) - Ben Zobrist, Brandon Phillips, Neil Walker
3B (2) - Hanley Ramirez, Ryan Zimmerman, Mark Reynolds
SS (2) - Andrelton Simmons, Martin Prado
OF (4) - Andrew McCutchen, Matt Kemp, Matt Holliday, Sin-Soo Choo, Staring Marte, BJ Upton
DL (1) - Jose Reyes
SP (4) - Cliff Lee, Matt Cain, Gio Gonzalez, RA Dickey, Andy Pettitte, Alex Cobb, Wandy Rodriguez, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Scott Kazmir
RP (2) - Jose Valverde, Ernesto Frieri, Kenley Jansen
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:41 PM
Yes, this guy somehow ended up on all 6 of my teams this year. I must REALLY like his yahoo ADP value.
Yahoo 12 Team 5x5 League
C Yadier Molina
1b Paul Goldschmidt
2b Ben Zobrist
3b Miguel Cabrera
SS Starlin Castro
OF Bryce Harper
OF Jason Heyward
OF Yoenis Cespedes
UTIL David Wright
UTIL Billy Butler
Bench: Giancarlo Stanton, Matt Carpenter
SP Brett Anderson, Alex Cobb, Julio Teheran, Jose Fernandez, Shelby Miller [Streaming Pitchers]
RP Casey Janssen, Glen Perkins, Jim Henderson, Kelvin Herrera
DL: Matt Garza
C Yadier Molina
1b Paul Goldschmidt
2b Ben Zobrist
3b Miguel Cabrera
SS Starlin Castro
OF Bryce Harper
OF Jason Heyward
OF Yoenis Cespedes
UTIL David Wright
UTIL Billy Butler
Bench: Giancarlo Stanton, Matt Carpenter
SP Brett Anderson, Alex Cobb, Julio Teheran, Jose Fernandez, Shelby Miller [Streaming Pitchers]
RP Casey Janssen, Glen Perkins, Jim Henderson, Kelvin Herrera
DL: Matt Garza
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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM
Expect elite stats but wins
14 team h2h keeper
pg stephen curry
sg Paul pierce
g kyle lowry
sf kevin durant
pf bismack biyombo
f andre igoudala
c amare staudamire
c javale mcgee
util nikola pekovic
util james johnson
bn jr smith
bn kenneth faried
bn luke ridnour
pg stephen curry
sg Paul pierce
g kyle lowry
sf kevin durant
pf bismack biyombo
f andre igoudala
c amare staudamire
c javale mcgee
util nikola pekovic
util james johnson
bn jr smith
bn kenneth faried
bn luke ridnour
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM
rasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:
Expect elite stats but wins
This is a joke, right?
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:49 AM
Stud. K/BB is awesome.
2013 Yahoo Fantasy Roto, had 13/13 pick R, H, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG, OPS, 1200IP limit; W, SV, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP, K/BB, QS C-McCann/Gattis 1B-Freeman 2B-Uggla 3B-Reynolds SS-Andrus LF-Harper CF-Kemp RF-Bruce OF-Heyward Util-Crisp Bench: Rutledge/Belt/Espinosa/K Johnson
SP- Kershaw, Cain,Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman, RP- Parnell, Perkins, Veras, Gregerson, Henderson, Reynolds DL- Eaton and Putz
Trades (Gave/Got): Darvish, Chapman, Altuve - Kemp, Cain, Uggla, McCann
Carlos Gomez, Lohse, Voggelsong, Boggs - Heyward, Coco Crisp (days before Gomez exploded..) Seager, Ozuna - Rutledge, Parnell (lost Putz, had to get another closer)
Team 2 R, H, HR, RBI, BB, K, TB, AVG, OPS, NSB, SB%, W, L, CG, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP, KBB, SV%, QS, NSV
C- Wieters 1B- Napoli/Laroche 2B- Phillips 3B-Longoria SS-A. Escobar LF- Crisp CF- Trout RF-JUp OF-CarGo 2.0 Util-Dunn/L.Cain Bench: Gattis, Rutledge, Eaton
SP- Lester, Kuroda, Gallardo, Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman RP- Kimbrel, Chapman, D Robertson, Escalona DL- Ogando and Putz
SP- Kershaw, Cain,Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman, RP- Parnell, Perkins, Veras, Gregerson, Henderson, Reynolds DL- Eaton and Putz
Trades (Gave/Got): Darvish, Chapman, Altuve - Kemp, Cain, Uggla, McCann
Carlos Gomez, Lohse, Voggelsong, Boggs - Heyward, Coco Crisp (days before Gomez exploded..) Seager, Ozuna - Rutledge, Parnell (lost Putz, had to get another closer)
Team 2 R, H, HR, RBI, BB, K, TB, AVG, OPS, NSB, SB%, W, L, CG, K, HLD, ERA, WHIP, KBB, SV%, QS, NSV
C- Wieters 1B- Napoli/Laroche 2B- Phillips 3B-Longoria SS-A. Escobar LF- Crisp CF- Trout RF-JUp OF-CarGo 2.0 Util-Dunn/L.Cain Bench: Gattis, Rutledge, Eaton
SP- Lester, Kuroda, Gallardo, Ryu (Bathtub Jin), Tillman RP- Kimbrel, Chapman, D Robertson, Escalona DL- Ogando and Putz
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM
clutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:
rasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:
Expect elite stats but wins
This is a joke, right?
The Phillies have a lousy offense this year. Their OF is only a little better than the Mets. If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best. Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!). Michael Young. And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard. I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.
The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.
I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:30 PM
Ben Edelman, on 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:
clutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:
rasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:
Expect elite stats but wins
This is a joke, right?
The Phillies have a lousy offense this year. Their OF is only a little better than the Mets. If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best. Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!). Michael Young. And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard. I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.
The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.
I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.
I asked that because wins are notoriously difficult to predict. I don't think anyone expected Lee to win just 6 games last year. That said, I think 14 wins is a reasonable projection. It shouldn't really be a significant factor in evaluating SP's, though.
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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:29 PM
I've got him as my #6 SP behind Kershaw, Verlander, Strasburg, Price and Hernandez. Stud.
Was a top 10, maybe even top 5 pitcher in baseball last year despite stupid Wins and Losses
Was a top 10, maybe even top 5 pitcher in baseball last year despite stupid Wins and Losses
18-team all-around points league
C- M. Montero
1B- P. Konerko
2B- J. Altuve
3B- D. Freese
SS- B. Zobrist
OF- A. Jackson
OF- C. Beltran
OF- A. Pagan
DH- G. Jones
BN- A. Ramirez, C. Ross, D. Stubbs, M. Izturis, A. Rodriguez (DL)
SP- S. Strasburg
SP- D. Price
SP- A. Sanchez
SP- A. Ogando
SP- A. Griffin
CL- G. Perkins
BN- J. Fernandez, J. Grimm, D. Phelps, J. Blanton, Z. Greinke (DL), B. Beachy (DL), T. Lilly (DL), B. Myers (DL), N. Eovaldi (DL)
C- M. Montero
1B- P. Konerko
2B- J. Altuve
3B- D. Freese
SS- B. Zobrist
OF- A. Jackson
OF- C. Beltran
OF- A. Pagan
DH- G. Jones
BN- A. Ramirez, C. Ross, D. Stubbs, M. Izturis, A. Rodriguez (DL)
SP- S. Strasburg
SP- D. Price
SP- A. Sanchez
SP- A. Ogando
SP- A. Griffin
CL- G. Perkins
BN- J. Fernandez, J. Grimm, D. Phelps, J. Blanton, Z. Greinke (DL), B. Beachy (DL), T. Lilly (DL), B. Myers (DL), N. Eovaldi (DL)
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:45 PM
8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K and gets a WIN(this is not a joke)
All vs a very strong ATL lineup. Love watching this guy pitch.
All vs a very strong ATL lineup. Love watching this guy pitch.
16 team H2H Dynasty league 6x6(R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG / W, S, K's, Hld, ERA, WHIP)
Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C)
1B - Allen Craig (StL - 1B, LF, RF)
2B - Robinson Cano (NYY - 2B)
3B - Pablo Sandoval (SF - 1B, 3B)
SS - Starlin Castro (CHC - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Mike Trout (LAA - LF, CF)
RF - Josh Hamilton (LAA - LF, CF, RF)
Util - Desmond Jennings (TB - LF, CF)
BN - Matt Carpenter (StL - 1B, 2B, 3B, RF)
Pitchers:
Starters: Clayton Kershaw, Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jordan Zimmermann, Jon Niese, Jason Vargas, Garrett Richards, Matt Garza(DL), Scott Baker(DL), Rubby De La Rosa(NA), Kyle Drabek(DL)
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Tom Wilhelmsen,Sean Doolittle, Vinnie Pestano, Jared Burton
Farm System(10 Max): Joe Ross(SD - SP), George Springer(HOU - OF), Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Tyrell Jenkins(StL - SP), Anthony Garcia(StL - OF), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Adam Morgan(PHI - SP), Kolten Wong(StL - 2B)
Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C)
1B - Allen Craig (StL - 1B, LF, RF)
2B - Robinson Cano (NYY - 2B)
3B - Pablo Sandoval (SF - 1B, 3B)
SS - Starlin Castro (CHC - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Mike Trout (LAA - LF, CF)
RF - Josh Hamilton (LAA - LF, CF, RF)
Util - Desmond Jennings (TB - LF, CF)
BN - Matt Carpenter (StL - 1B, 2B, 3B, RF)
Pitchers:
Starters: Clayton Kershaw, Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jordan Zimmermann, Jon Niese, Jason Vargas, Garrett Richards, Matt Garza(DL), Scott Baker(DL), Rubby De La Rosa(NA), Kyle Drabek(DL)
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Tom Wilhelmsen,Sean Doolittle, Vinnie Pestano, Jared Burton
Farm System(10 Max): Joe Ross(SD - SP), George Springer(HOU - OF), Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Tyrell Jenkins(StL - SP), Anthony Garcia(StL - OF), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Adam Morgan(PHI - SP), Kolten Wong(StL - 2B)
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:47 PM
Nice start to the year. It's good to see this after the numerous bouts of tough luck last year.
12-Team H2H Re-Draft 6x6 (Runs, AVG, HRs, RBIs, BBs, Steals) (Ws, Ls, Ks, ERA, WHIP, Saves)
C Evan Gattis ©
1B Freddie Freeman (1B) || Adrian Gonzalez (1B) || Jordan Pacheco (C, 1B, 3B)
2B Ben Zobrist (2B, SS, RF)
3B Todd Frazier (1B, 3B, LF) || Nolan Arenado (3B)
SS Ian Desmond (SS)
LF Carlos Gonzalez (LF) || Michael Saunders (LF, CF, RF)
CF Dexter Fowler (CF) || Denard Span (CF)
RF Jose Bautista (RF) || Gerardo Parra (LF, CF, RF)
SP Matt Cain || Chris Sale || Jeff Samardzija || Lance Lynn || Mike Minor || Wade Miley || Shelby Miller || Jose Quintana
RP Tom Wilhelmsen || Glen Perkins
My credentials: Data analyst as my day job, have played fantasy baseball for two seasons, first-place in 10-team Roto my first season and first-place in 12-team H2H my second season.
C Evan Gattis ©
1B Freddie Freeman (1B) || Adrian Gonzalez (1B) || Jordan Pacheco (C, 1B, 3B)
2B Ben Zobrist (2B, SS, RF)
3B Todd Frazier (1B, 3B, LF) || Nolan Arenado (3B)
SS Ian Desmond (SS)
LF Carlos Gonzalez (LF) || Michael Saunders (LF, CF, RF)
CF Dexter Fowler (CF) || Denard Span (CF)
RF Jose Bautista (RF) || Gerardo Parra (LF, CF, RF)
SP Matt Cain || Chris Sale || Jeff Samardzija || Lance Lynn || Mike Minor || Wade Miley || Shelby Miller || Jose Quintana
RP Tom Wilhelmsen || Glen Perkins
My credentials: Data analyst as my day job, have played fantasy baseball for two seasons, first-place in 10-team Roto my first season and first-place in 12-team H2H my second season.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:55 PM
Surprised to see only 2 posts after this gem
14 team head to head points non keeper
C- Aj Pierzynski
1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Everth Cabrera
3B - Pablo Sandoval
OF - Mike Trout,Jacoby Ellsbury, Coco Crisp
DH - Adam Laroche
Bench - Torii Hunter
SP - Cliff Lee,Chris Sale,Jon Lester,Max Scherzer
RP - Joe Nathan,Jason Grilli
Bench - Mike Minor,Lance Lynn,Kyle Kendrick,Jose Quintana,Zack Wheeler
C- Aj Pierzynski
1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Everth Cabrera
3B - Pablo Sandoval
OF - Mike Trout,Jacoby Ellsbury, Coco Crisp
DH - Adam Laroche
Bench - Torii Hunter
SP - Cliff Lee,Chris Sale,Jon Lester,Max Scherzer
RP - Joe Nathan,Jason Grilli
Bench - Mike Minor,Lance Lynn,Kyle Kendrick,Jose Quintana,Zack Wheeler
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:13 PM
Looked vintage today. Great way to start the year.
10 Man H2H Points League- 5 Keepers
SP- +10 W / +1 Inn / +1 K /+5 CG / +10 SHO / -1 Walk / -1 ER[/size]
Hitters- +1 1B +2 2B +3 3B +4 HR +1 RBI +1 R +2 SB +1 BB +1 HBP -1 KO -1 CS[/size]
SP- +10 W / +1 Inn / +1 K /+5 CG / +10 SHO / -1 Walk / -1 ER[/size]
Hitters- +1 1B +2 2B +3 3B +4 HR +1 RBI +1 R +2 SB +1 BB +1 HBP -1 KO -1 CS[/size]
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:15 PM
pitched great. would ve given a up a HR to freeman for sure in other conditions. but overall a great start.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:14 PM
His innings were so economical tonight. Love watching him pitch. 17 first pitch strikes to 26 batters, 78 strikes out of 106 pitches.
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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:14 PM
its funny how he throws so many strikes that it ends up being a bad thing from time to time.
12 Team, H2H, $250 Auction League, Standard Scoring
C J.P. Arencibia
1B Prince Fielder
2B Ian Kinsler
3B Adrian Beltre
SS Erick Aybar
MI Didi Gregorius
CI Ryan Zimmerman
OF Mike Trout, Brett Gardner, Michael Cuddyer, Brandon Moss, Matt Joyce
UTL Paul Konerko
DL Aaron Hill
SP Justin Verlander, Cliff Lee, Kris Medlen, Shelby Miller, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Kyle Lohse, Chris Capuano
RP Rafael Betancourt, Edward Mujica
BEN Coco Crisp, Brett Lawrie, Brett Anderson
C J.P. Arencibia
1B Prince Fielder
2B Ian Kinsler
3B Adrian Beltre
SS Erick Aybar
MI Didi Gregorius
CI Ryan Zimmerman
OF Mike Trout, Brett Gardner, Michael Cuddyer, Brandon Moss, Matt Joyce
UTL Paul Konerko
DL Aaron Hill
SP Justin Verlander, Cliff Lee, Kris Medlen, Shelby Miller, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Kyle Lohse, Chris Capuano
RP Rafael Betancourt, Edward Mujica
BEN Coco Crisp, Brett Lawrie, Brett Anderson
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM
I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:43 AM
Great to see against another top starter in Medlen and a great hitting team.
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:31 AM
This guy dropped to me at pick
Grabbed him at no 49 in my 14 man league, an ace of his caliber at that point was too good to pass up. Top 5 all day, regardless of whether he gets pointless wins (dumbest stat in sports).
klove42, on 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:
I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start
Grabbed him at no 49 in my 14 man league, an ace of his caliber at that point was too good to pass up. Top 5 all day, regardless of whether he gets pointless wins (dumbest stat in sports).
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM
I got him at 51 and 62 in my final two drafts.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:05 PM
Run support for Lee? What is this?!?!
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