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Cliff Lee 2013 Outlook


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#1 gbill2004

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

Thoughts/projections for Cliff Lee this season?

Competitive 12 team league. Starting spots are in brackets; H2H and the RP category is S+H:

C (2) - Evan Gattis, Carlos Santana
1B (2) - Paul Goldschmidt, Chris Davis
2B (2) - Howie Kendrick, Brett Lawrie
3B (2) - Josh Donaldson, Xander Bogaerts
SS (2) - Ian Desmond, Jean Segura
IF (1) - Chase Headley, Kendrys Morales
OF (4) - Jason Heyward, Jayson Werth, Gregory Polanco, Travis Snider, Juan Lagares, Michael Saunders, Cameron Maybin

SP (6) - Matt Harvey, Carlos Carasco, Masahiro Tanaka, Michael Pineda, Colin McHugh, Drew Hutchison, Drew Pomerantz, Daniel Norris
RP (2) - Andrew Miller, Wade Davis, Tony Watson, Miguel Castro


#2 CrypTviLL

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Yes, this guy somehow ended up on all 6 of my teams this year. I must REALLY like his yahoo ADP value.

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM

Expect elite stats but wins

c kurt suzuki
1b miguel cabrera
2b neil walker
3b evan longoria
ss ian desmond
lf justin upton
cf carlos gomez
rf kole calhoun
util kris bryant
bn dilson herrera bn bryon buxton bn marcus semien dl dalton pompey dl austin jackson

sp garret richards
sp clayton kershaw
sp jacob degrom
rp junici tazawa
rp jordan walden
rp bret cecil
p taijuan walker p jake odorizzi p chad qualls p brandon morrow p nathan eovaldi p kyle gibson bn nate karns bn chase whitley dl cliff lee


#4 clutchcityfan

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

Expect elite stats but wins


This is a joke, right?

#5 Suikoden

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

Stud. K/BB is awesome.
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QB-Ben Roethlisberger
WR-Dez Bryant
WR-Julio Jones
WR-Desean Jackson
RB-Chris Johnson
RB- Ryan Mathews
TE-Charles Clay
W/R- Allen Hurns BN- Knile Davis BN-BenJarvus Green-Ellis BN-John Brown BN- Jake Locker
K-Dan Bailey, Greg The Leg
Def- Denver, New York Giants

#6 Ben Edelman

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM

Expect elite stats but wins


This is a joke, right?


The Phillies have a lousy offense this year. Their OF is only a little better than the Mets. If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best. Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!). Michael Young. And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard. I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.

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C: Mesoraco, H Sanchez
1/3: Lamb, Bryant, Alonso
2/S: Y Escobar, E Herrera, J Peterson
O/U: Yelich, Harper, Revere, Pagan, M Taylor, J Lake
SP: Shields, Fiers, Kennedy, Carlos Martinez, Foltynewicz, A Wood
RP: Rondon, Quackenbush, R Montero, Hoover
Min: JP Crawford, Piscotty, Alcantara, T Sanchez

DL: Rendon, Wainwright, Bailey, N Ramirez
 


#7 clutchcityfan

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

Expect elite stats but wins


This is a joke, right?


The Phillies have a lousy offense this year. Their OF is only a little better than the Mets. If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best. Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!). Michael Young. And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard. I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.


I asked that because wins are notoriously difficult to predict. I don't think anyone expected Lee to win just 6 games last year. That said, I think 14 wins is a reasonable projection. It shouldn't really be a significant factor in evaluating SP's, though.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

I've got him as my #6 SP behind Kershaw, Verlander, Strasburg, Price and Hernandez. Stud.

Was a top 10, maybe even top 5 pitcher in baseball last year despite stupid Wins and Losses

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K and gets a WIN(this is not a joke)

All vs a very strong ATL lineup. Love watching this guy pitch.

16 team H2H Dynasty league 6x6(R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG / W, S, K's, Hld, ERA, WHIP)

Hitters:
C - Buster Posey (SF - C, 1B)
1B - Edwin Encarnacion (Tor - 1B)
2B - Robinson Cano (Sea - 2B)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B, 3B)
SS - Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
LF -  Corey Dickerson (Col l- LF, CF)
CF -  Adam Jones (Bal - CF)
RF - George Springer (Hou - CF, RF)
Util - Carlos Gonzalez (Col - LF, RF)
BN - Dalton Pompey (Tor - LF, CF)
Pitchers:(5 SP/5 RP)
Starters: Clayton Kershaw, Cole Hamels, Jose Quintana, Jordan Zimmermann, Carlos Martinez, Corey Kluber, Steven Matz, Hyun-Jin Ryu(DL), Anibal Sanchez
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Greg Holland, Sean Doolittle(DL), Jason Grilli, Aaron Barrett, Carson Smith, Miguel Castro
Farm System(MAX 10):  Sean Manaea(KC - SP), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Jose Martinez(Ari - SP), Hunter Dozier(KC - SS/3B), Arismendy Alcantara(CHC - 2B/CF), Alex Gonzalez(Tex - SP), Jorge Mateo(NYY - SS), Spencer Adams(CHW - SP), Adrian Rondon(TB - SS), Monte Harrison(Mil - OF)


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

Nice start to the year. It's good to see this after the numerous bouts of tough luck last year.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

Surprised to see only 2 posts after this gem

14 team head to head points non keeper

C-   Derek Norris
1B - Albert Pujols
2B - Devon Travis
SS - Ian Desmond
3B - Kyle Seager
OF - Starling Marte Kole Calhoun,Joc Pederson
DH - Jake Marisnick

Bench - Rusney Castillo
DL - Alex Rios

SP - Johnny Cueto,Chris Sale,Carlos Carassco,Michael Wacha
RP - Cody Allen, Hector Rondon

Bench - CC Sabathia,Carlos Rodon,Mike Fiers,Kyle Hendricks,Alfredo Simon,Bartolo Colon
DL - Matt Cain
Trades - Anthony Desclafani for Hector Rondon


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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

Looked vintage today. Great way to start the year.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

pitched great. would ve given a up a HR to freeman for sure in other conditions. but overall a great start.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

His innings were so economical tonight. Love watching him pitch. 17 first pitch strikes to 26 batters, 78 strikes out of 106 pitches.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

its funny how he throws so many strikes that it ends up being a bad thing from time to time.
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C - Devin Mesoraco
1B - Jose Abreu
2B - Robinson Cano
SS - J.J. Hardy
3B - Nolan Arenado
CI - Brett Lawrie
MI - Martin Prado
OF - Mike Trout, Ryan Braun, Oscar Tavares, Yasiel Puig, Denard Span
UTIL - Salvador Perez

BEN - Yangervis Solarte

SP - Adam Wainwright, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Jonathan Niese, James Shield, Justin Masterson, Matt Cain, A.J. Burnett
RP - Trevor Rosenthal, LaTroy Hawkins, Dellin Betances, Cody Allen, Alex Wood

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

Great to see against another top starter in Medlen and a great hitting team.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:31 AM

This guy dropped to me at pick

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start


Grabbed him at no 49 in my 14 man league, an ace of his caliber at that point was too good to pass up. Top 5 all day, regardless of whether he gets pointless wins (dumbest stat in sports).

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

I got him at 51 and 62 in my final two drafts.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

Run support for Lee? What is this?!?!
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