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Cliff Lee 2013 Outlook


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#1 gbill2004

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:03 PM

Thoughts/projections for Cliff Lee this season?
Competitive 10 team H2H deep re-draft league.  Roster below (starting spots in brackets):

C (2) Buster Posey, Brian McCann, Wilson Ramos
1B (2) Chris Davis, Mark Teixeira, Billy Butler
2B (2) Dustin Pedroia, Brandon Phillips
SS (2) Jose Reyes, JJ Hardy
3B (2) Edwin Encarnacion, Josh Donaldson, Chase Headley
OF (4) Bryce Harper, Hunter Pence, Michael Bourn, Kole Calhoun

SP (4) David Price, Matt Cain, Johnny Cueto, Yordano Ventura, Sonny Gray, Garrett Richards, Julio Teheran, Josh Beckett, Ian Kennedy, Michael Pineda, James Paxton
RP (2) Francisco Rodriguez, Joakim Soria

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:41 PM

Yes, this guy somehow ended up on all 6 of my teams this year. I must REALLY like his yahoo ADP value.
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QB Aaron Rodgers
WR Brandon Marshall
WR A.J. Green
WR Dez Bryant
RB Matt Forte
RB Jamaal Charles
TE Rob Gronkowski
K Matt Prater
DEF Streaming
Bench: Cecil Shorts III, Steven Ridley, Harry Douglas, Le'Veon Bell, Zac Stacy, Danny Amendola

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Posted 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM

Expect elite stats but wins
c stephen vogt
1b miguel cabrera
2b neil walker
3b evan longoria
ss ian desmond
lf justin upton
cf austin jackson
rf oscar taveras
util casey mcgehee
bn kris bryant jesse winker dominic brown  dl prince fielder  dl carl crawford dl evan gattis

sp garret richards
sp clayton kershaw
sp cliff lee
rp neftali feliz
rp jacob degrom
rp jordan walden
p brian wilson p wily peralta Bn drew pomeranz bn ryan volgesong dl masahiro tanaka

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

Stud.  K/BB is awesome.
20 team keeper H2H (took over the team), standard Yahoo.  Keepers below.  NA's get put into NA slots (5 max)
C:  d'Arnaud 1B: Lind 2B: Miller SS: Forsythe 3B: Manny Machado OF: Stanton OF: Springer OF: Harper
Util: Salty Bench: Willingham, Suarez, Pena DL: Owings, Myers NA: Solarte Baez (NA)
SP: Strasburg SP: Price RP: Motte RP: Broxton P: Stroman, Storen, Tazawa, Petricka, Santiago, Kendrick DL:Pineda NA:Meyer
Trades: 1) Taijuan Walker and 5th rounder for Ryu and 4th rounder 2) Heyward, Hosmer, Bailey for Ellsbury 3) Abreu for Harper and Lind 6) Soria, Shelby Miller and round 6 pick for Strasburg and 7th rounder 7)  Ellsbury and 3rd rounder for Springer and 1st rounder 8) Francisco, Allen, 7th rounder for 5th rounder 9) Rosenthal and Ryu for Price

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C- Carlos Sant 1B) Abreu 2b) Altuve 3b) E5 SS) Rollins OF- McCutch, Jones, Harper Util- Gardner, Cron Bench: NA: Bryant SPs:  Strasburg, Verlander, Ventura, Hudson, Samardzija, Duffy, Cain, Lester, Walker, Stroman RPs:  Reed Doolittle Papelbon Trades: 1) Joey Bats and Panda for E5 and Werth 2) Morse for RA Dickey 3) Soria for Garza 4) Braun and Mesoraco for McCutch and McCann 5) Werth for Homer Bailey and Gardner 6) Cain for Kemp 7) Hill for Samardzija 8)  Melky, Hosmer, Sale for Strasberg and JUp 9) Garza and Miller for Verlander 10) Balfour for LaRoche 11) Bourn for Soriano 12) Kemp for Lester and Cain 13) JUp, LaRoche, Chisenballs for Adam Jones

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM

View Postclutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

The Phillies have a lousy offense this year.  Their OF is only a little better than the Mets.  If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best.  Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!).  Michael Young.  And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard.  I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.
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C: Mesoraco, Bethancourt
1/3: Rojas, Frandsen, Rendon
2/S: Wong, Scutaro, Tejada
O/U: Yelich, Maybin, Quentin, Alcantara, C. Ross, Boujos
SP: Strasburg, Morton, Nelson
RP: Clippard, N. Ramirez, Mejia, Storen, Rondon, Avilan, Dice-K
Min: Bryant, Crawford, Piscotty, K. Parker, T. Jordan, R. Montero, Tabata, M. Gonzales, Ruf
DL: Fujikawa, Kelly, Erlin
Yeah, I'm dumping this year.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostBen Edelman, on 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM, said:

View Postclutchcityfan, on 06 March 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

View Postrasto21585, on 05 March 2013 - 11:57 PM, said:

Expect elite stats but wins

This is a joke, right?

The Phillies have a lousy offense this year.  Their OF is only a little better than the Mets.  If Howard and Utley are healthy all season, they may get up to league average offense at best.  Ben Revere? Domonic Brown / Delmon Young (hope springs eternal!).  Michael Young.  And which aging troika would you rather have -- Jeter/Arod//Tex or Rollins/Utley/Howard.  I'll take the Yankees even with only half a season of ARod.

The Phillies 2014 are the Yankees 2013, except without Cano.

I will pick the Phils for 85 wins on the back of great pitching, with Lee going 14-10.

I asked that because wins are notoriously difficult to predict. I don't think anyone expected Lee to win just 6 games last year. That said, I think 14 wins is a reasonable projection. It shouldn't really be a significant factor in evaluating SP's, though.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:29 PM

I've got him as my #6 SP behind Kershaw, Verlander, Strasburg, Price and Hernandez. Stud.

Was a top 10, maybe even top 5 pitcher in baseball last year despite stupid Wins and Losses

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:45 PM

8 IP, 2 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 8 K and gets a WIN(this is not a joke)

All vs a very strong ATL lineup. Love watching this guy pitch.
16 team H2H Dynasty league 6x6(R, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG / W, S, K's, Hld, ERA, WHIP)

Hitters:
C - Jonathan Lucroy (MIL - C, 1B)
1B - Edwin Encarnacion (Tor - 1B, 3B)
2B - Robinson Cano (Sea - 2B)
3B - Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B, 3B)
SS - Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
LF - Carlos Gonzalez (COL - LF)
CF - Corey Dickerson (Col - LF, CF)
RF - George Springer (Hou - CF, RF)
Util - David Wright (NYM - 3B)
BN - Oswaldo Arcia (Min - LF, RF), Jean Segura (Mil - SS), Kole Calhoun (LAA - RF)
Pitchers:(5 SP/5 RP)
Starters: Clayton Kershaw, Cole Hamels, Cliff Lee, James Shields, Jose Quintana, Jordan Zimmermann, Carlos Martinez, Corey Kluber, Ivan Nova(DL)
Relievers: Craig Kimbrel, Greg Holland, Sean Doolittle, Joe Smith, Shae Simmons
Farm System:  Andrew Heaney (MIA - SP), Marco Gonzales(StL - SP), Daniel Norris(TOR - SP), Ronald Guzman(TEX - 1B/OF), Dan Vogelbach(CHC - 1B), Blake Snell(TB - SP), Jose Martinez(Ari - SP), Hunter Dozier(KC - SS/3B), Adalberto Mejia(SF - SP)

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:47 PM

Nice start to the year.  It's good to see this after the numerous bouts of tough luck last year.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 08:55 PM

Surprised to see only 2 posts after this gem
14 team head to head points non keeper

C- Jason Castro
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Dustin Pedroia
SS - Brad Miller
3B - Josh Donaldson
OF - Andrew McCutchen,Kole Calhoun,Angel Pagan
DH - Aaron Hill

Bench -
DL -

SP - Jose Fernandez,James Shields,Gerrit Cole,Justin Masterson
RP - Sergio Romo,Sergio Santos

Bench - Chris Archer,Clay Buchholz,Joe Kelly,Noah Syndergarrd,Yordano Ventura,Drew Smyly,Nathan Eovaldi
DL - Matt Harrison
Trades -

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:13 PM

Looked vintage today. Great way to start the year.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:15 PM

pitched great. would ve given a up a HR to freeman for sure in other conditions. but overall a great start.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 10:14 PM

His innings were so economical tonight. Love watching him pitch. 17 first pitch strikes to 26 batters, 78 strikes out of 106 pitches.

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:14 PM

its funny how he throws so many strikes that it ends up being a bad thing from time to time.
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C - Devin Mesoraco
1B - Jose Abreu
2B - Robinson Cano
SS - J.J. Hardy
3B - Nolan Arenado
CI - Brett Lawrie
MI - Martin Prado
OF - Mike Trout, Ryan Braun, Oscar Tavares, Yasiel Puig, Denard Span
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SP - Adam Wainwright, Hyun-Jin Ryu, Jonathan Niese, James Shield, Justin Masterson, Matt Cain, A.J. Burnett
RP - Trevor Rosenthal, LaTroy Hawkins, Dellin Betances, Cody Allen, Alex Wood

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start
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Posted 05 April 2013 - 09:43 AM

Great to see against another top starter in Medlen and a great hitting team.

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:31 AM

This guy dropped to me at pick

View Postklove42, on 05 April 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

I was shocked he dropped to me at pick 55, so I easily scooped him up there. Great first start

Grabbed him at no 49 in my 14 man league, an ace of his caliber at that point was too good to pass up.  Top 5 all day, regardless of whether he gets pointless wins (dumbest stat in sports).

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM

I got him at 51 and 62 in my final two drafts.

Edited by cowbell204, 05 April 2013 - 11:33 AM.


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Posted 09 April 2013 - 07:05 PM

Run support for Lee? What is this?!?!
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