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Jayson Werth 2013 Outlook


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#1 gbill2004

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 07:30 AM

Thoughts/projections for Jayson Werth this season? Looks to be great value.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:14 AM

I like his spot in the lineup (2 hole) behind Span, and in front of Harper. Should provide a really nice OBP, some good runs and 15-20 SB's. I don't know how to project his power given that he literally showed none all season last year. I would say he should be good for 15-20 HR's but that is still a big question mark. He is coming at a very nice price though. Could be the cheapest 15-15 you can find while still providing you value in OBP and elsewhere. I am targeting him late.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:22 AM

Worth-Less Very overrated !!!! For his draft position

Edited by motown magic, 08 March 2013 - 11:23 AM.


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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

Worth-Less Very overrated !!!! For his draft position


Think before you speak. He is the 53rd average picked outfielder right now. His ADP is 215. How is that overrated for his draft position? I challenge you to explain that to us.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 11:52 AM

Big time value this season. His best days are certainly behind him but his wrist injury last season made him a forgotten man. He came back to hit .300 with little power but I chalk that up to a balky wrist. He looks healthy now and hits 2nd in a great line-up. I think he's capable of putting up 20-15.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:09 PM

What u guys think of werth compare to the Colby Rasmus n aoki would u take werth over them
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

If Werth is healthy, I see similar numbers to Jason Heyward in 2012 without the steals.

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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:08 PM


Worth-Less Very overrated !!!! For his draft position


Think before you speak. He is the 53rd average picked outfielder right now. His ADP is 215. How is that overrated for his draft position? I challenge you to explain that to us.


How can you be overrated for 53 OF and 215 ADP? you basically cant be. If he sucks then drop him and he didnt cost an early pick.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 09:30 PM

What u guys think of werth compare to the Colby Rasmus n aoki would u take werth over them


Take it to the B/C Forum. Clearly a team-specific question. And learn some punctuation while you are there.
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#10 motown magic

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:55 AM

Not everybody plays in a mixed league. Maybe I should have added that. I just think every year people expect him to produce . Has never had a 100 rbi season. I happen to think he and BJ Upton are two guys people draft MOST every year hoping for that big year and don't get it. Until last year Rios was another. I realize sometimes you have to gamble but how many times getting burned before you wake up?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:00 AM

Never been a big Werth fan, but I'm buying him this year. Between how late he is going and the strength of the lineup he is in, he'll definitely bring back great value.
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:06 AM

Not everybody plays in a mixed league. Maybe I should have added that. I just think every year people expect him to produce . Has never had a 100 rbi season. I happen to think he and BJ Upton are two guys people draft MOST every year hoping for that big year and don't get it. Until last year Rios was another. I realize sometimes you have to gamble but how many times getting burned before you wake up?


Who's calling for Werth to drive in 100? Who thought he was going to keep producing career years after leaving Philly? I seem to recall the consensus of lesser numbers after the move, to be honest and no demands for 35 homers/20 steals like his best year here.

If you're getting him in the late rounds (which the ADP suggests), the 20 homers/15 steals and roughly 150 runs + RBI he could get make him nice value, not overrated.
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Posted 09 March 2013 - 11:45 AM

Werth's MDP of 185 indicates that he is a bargain. Still, his best days are clearly behind him and the lack of power after returning from his wrist injury is concerning.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:35 AM

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:26 AM

I got this guy at around pick 250 in my draft two nights ago... I think this is great value.
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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:32 AM

I have Werth in 2 out of 3 leagues. I was definitely happy to land him where I did in both drafts. The potential power\speed combo in that lineup spot could be very valuable. No one should be so heavily invested that we can't cut bait if he ends up being lousy.

The power concerns are legitimate, but I think he's got a lot going for him. He's making too much money for the Nats to bench him.

I think .280 - 15 HRs - 20 steals - 165 R\RBI combined is definitely possible.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 11:38 AM

He is the one guy that is consistently undervalued in drafts. I snagged him late as well and would be very surprised if he doesn't return OF3 value. 20/10 with great counting stats. Should drive in 70-80 and should score close to a 100 with Harper/Zimmerman/Laroche behind him.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 12:07 PM

I see why he's cheap...the injury risk is obviously a problem, but I also think that he's going waaaay too late in drafts. He's going outside the top 200 in many leagues. The talent is there...the playing time is there and he's sitting in the catbird's seat with all that talent behind him.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 02:44 PM

I see no reason not to take a later flier on this guy (got him round 25), unless you really need the roster spot elsewhere. Worst case scenario, he is not very good, you cut your (minimal) losses and if he finds his form again, snag him back off waivers.
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Posted 31 March 2013 - 02:42 PM

Has never had a 100 rbi season.


I know 99 is not 100, but c'mon. Anybody would take this guys 2009 -2010 stats for their starting OF. Obviously his 2011 was a disappointment, but he's hitting in a much better lineup with much less pressure
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