Kelly Johnson signed a one-year, $2.45M deal with the Rays in the offseason. He is expected to be their everyday 2B in 2013, but is also expected to see a bit of time in the corner outfield spots and spell James Loney at 1B on occasion.
As a Jays fan, his tenure on our team was kind of disappointing. I was hoping for more of his 2010 production, when he posted a sexy 26/71/13 line over 585 AB. Instead, his numbers were remarkably similar to what he put up in 2011, and we had to sit back and watch with envy as Aaron Hill raked in the desert.
I think he makes for somewhat of a decent rebound candidate in larger (14+ team) leagues and AL only formats. Current average draft position is 259, and I see him as the last guy on a cusp of suitable 2B options before the bottom really falls out at that position (Beckham, Roberts, Infante, etc).
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Kelly Johnson 2013 Outlook
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 12:34 PM
Is this kid back? His avg doesn't look great, but his OBP and BB% are really nice so far
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 09:22 AM
He looks great lately, I'm thinking he's good for 20-25hrs and 10+sbs.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 10:05 AM
placeholder, on 29 April 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:
He looks great lately, I'm thinking he's good for 20-25hrs and 10+sbs.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
He might have more value than UGHla
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Posted 06 May 2013 - 07:20 PM
placeholder, on 29 April 2013 - 09:22 AM, said:
He looks great lately, I'm thinking he's good for 20-25hrs and 10+sbs.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
I'd grab him before he stops flying under the radar.
Since your post on Apr 29, Kelly Johnson continues to produce. This guy's ownership is bound to get ratcheted up this month if things continue on like this.
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 02:49 AM
Picked him up and he's been on a tear lately.
Up to April 25th: 10-54 (.185), 7 runs, 3 hrs, 5 rbi
April 26th and on: 13-33 (.394), 4 runs, 1 hr, 11 rbi
Up to April 25th: 10-54 (.185), 7 runs, 3 hrs, 5 rbi
April 26th and on: 13-33 (.394), 4 runs, 1 hr, 11 rbi
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1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Aaron Hill
SS: Jed Lowrie
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OF: Matt Holliday
OF: Justin Upton
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DH: Billy Butler
Bench: Carlos Gomez, Nolan Arenado, Kelly Johnson, Jean Segura,
SP: Johnny Cueto, Jeff Samardzjia, Matt Harvey, Marco Estrada, Hyun Jin Ryu, Patrick Corbin
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C: Wilin Rosario
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Aaron Hill
SS: Jed Lowrie
3B: Evan Longoria
OF: Matt Holliday
OF: Justin Upton
OF: Curtis Granderson
DH: Billy Butler
Bench: Carlos Gomez, Nolan Arenado, Kelly Johnson, Jean Segura,
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Posted 07 May 2013 - 08:29 AM
He's been on a nice tear over the last ten days, raised his average from .185 to .264. Long overdue for people like me who've been patient with him all season.
He's a sneaky mix of power and speed. Not the best SB % (4 for 7), but the number of attempts shows that the Rays coaches are confident in giving him the green light.
It's frustrating to see him batting cleanup one game, 8th the next game, 2nd the game after that, and 9th the game after that. Maddon being Maddon, I guess. Would love it if he found a regular spot near the top of the order.
He's a sneaky mix of power and speed. Not the best SB % (4 for 7), but the number of attempts shows that the Rays coaches are confident in giving him the green light.
It's frustrating to see him batting cleanup one game, 8th the next game, 2nd the game after that, and 9th the game after that. Maddon being Maddon, I guess. Would love it if he found a regular spot near the top of the order.
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:31 PM
So far today 3-4 with a single, double, 2 run homer and 3 runs scored. Average is up to .283 now Benefiting from hitting in front of Zobrist and Longoria
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C: Wilin Rosario
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Aaron Hill
SS: Jed Lowrie
3B: Evan Longoria
OF: Matt Holliday
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DH: Billy Butler
Bench: Carlos Gomez, Nolan Arenado, Kelly Johnson, Jean Segura,
SP: Johnny Cueto, Jeff Samardzjia, Matt Harvey, Marco Estrada, Hyun Jin Ryu, Patrick Corbin
RP: Andrew Cashner, Hector Santiago
C: Wilin Rosario
1B: Prince Fielder
2B: Aaron Hill
SS: Jed Lowrie
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Bench: Carlos Gomez, Nolan Arenado, Kelly Johnson, Jean Segura,
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:53 PM
riding him at 2nd right now and loving the results....
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:19 PM
Really been under the radar this yr. Hitting 9th was terrible for him but looks like he's been hitting out ot the 2 spot lately...any tampa homers want to chime in?
With 2b/OF eligibility , he should be on alot more fantasy teams.
Currently only 50% ownership in CBS
With 2b/OF eligibility , he should be on alot more fantasy teams.
Currently only 50% ownership in CBS
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:21 PM
He's among the top 5 streakiest players in the league. Ride it out and then prepare for 2-3 months where he struggles to touch .200
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:26 PM
Thats fair but he's also not that far removed from being a huge fantasy asset. 2010 - he was a top-5 option at 2b.
.283 26/71/93/13
Also was the last time he played a full season. If he's getting shafted in the 9 hole most games, hard to trust.
But in the 2 hole, he's awfully intriguing.
.283 26/71/93/13
Also was the last time he played a full season. If he's getting shafted in the 9 hole most games, hard to trust.
But in the 2 hole, he's awfully intriguing.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:33 PM
Wombat, on 10 May 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:
He's among the top 5 streakiest players in the league. Ride it out and then prepare for 2-3 months where he struggles to touch .200
This. Owned him before and he'll be locked in for a few weeks and then fall off a cliff. Enjoy the ride, though.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:34 PM
I gave him a shot, what the hey....of course he's not in the lineup tonight! grrr
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:38 PM
rrich46, on 10 May 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:
I gave him a shot, what the hey....of course he's not in the lineup tonight! grrr
Yep, thats the big detterent. Joe Maddon.
If you're not Longoria or Zobrist, odds are you wont be playing every day and if u do, you can bat anywhere 1-9.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:08 PM
Another HR for Mr.Johnson. Make that 6 HR - 22 RBI - 4 SB on the season.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
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OF L.Walker (1997)
OF E.Burks (1996)
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 07:28 PM
Sine_cera, on 17 May 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:
Another HR for Mr.Johnson. Make that 6 HR - 22 RBI - 4 SB on the season.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
Its also very wrong
Contact Rate by season:
2007 -- 78
2008 -- 79
2009 -- 82
2010 -- 75
2011 -- 70
2012 -- 69
2013 -- 69
Edited by Zumayaaaa, 17 May 2013 - 07:28 PM.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:24 PM
Zumayaaaa, on 17 May 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:
Sine_cera, on 17 May 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:
Another HR for Mr.Johnson. Make that 6 HR - 22 RBI - 4 SB on the season.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
Its also very wrong
Contact Rate by season:
2007 -- 78
2008 -- 79
2009 -- 82
2010 -- 75
2011 -- 70
2012 -- 69
2013 -- 69
Not sure what numbers your looking at but I know some sites have different definitions for contact% and swing and miss% etc. But his contact rate this year is 78% The last two years it has been 71%, and his big year in 2010 it was 77%. His SwSt% is also down 4% from last year which is pretty massive.
Unfortunately his strikeout rate is still pretty absurdly high so the change in contact rates haven't made that much of a difference yet. That could be a bit fluky, or it could be due to him being someone who is constantly taking strike 3. I swear I see him sit there with the bat on his shoulders for strike 3 more than anyone in the league.
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:32 PM
Zumayaaaa, on 17 May 2013 - 07:28 PM, said:
Sine_cera, on 17 May 2013 - 07:08 PM, said:
Another HR for Mr.Johnson. Make that 6 HR - 22 RBI - 4 SB on the season.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
I read on Fangraphs that his contact% is back to where it was during his days with the D'Backs. That's very good news.
Its also very wrong
Contact Rate by season:
2007 -- 78
2008 -- 79
2009 -- 82
2010 -- 75
2011 -- 70
2012 -- 69
2013 -- 69
I don't know what sites you're using but according to Fangraphs:
2010 - 76,9%
2011 - 71,8%
2012 - 71,4%
2013 - 78%
And his Z-Contact% is back to where it was back then too:
2010 - 86,9%
2011 - 79,8%
2012 - 82,5%
2013 - 85,3%
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C I.Rodriguez (1999)
1B T.Helton (2000)
2B A.Soriano (2002)
3B D.Wright (2007)
SS A.Rodriguez (1998)
OF L.Walker (1997)
OF E.Burks (1996)
OF S.Sosa (1998)
OF M.Kemp (2011)
Util B.Bonds (2001)
SP Pedro Martinez (2000), Randy Johnson (2001), J.Verlander (2011), R.Clemens (1997), C.Schilling (2002)
RP E.Gagne (2003), J.Wetteland (1993), T.Hoffman (1996)
* Players eligible after 1990
C I.Rodriguez (1999)
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2B A.Soriano (2002)
3B D.Wright (2007)
SS A.Rodriguez (1998)
OF L.Walker (1997)
OF E.Burks (1996)
OF S.Sosa (1998)
OF M.Kemp (2011)
Util B.Bonds (2001)
SP Pedro Martinez (2000), Randy Johnson (2001), J.Verlander (2011), R.Clemens (1997), C.Schilling (2002)
RP E.Gagne (2003), J.Wetteland (1993), T.Hoffman (1996)
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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:40 PM
Love the numbers and his 2B/OF
On pace for like 24/100 right now, and his average is almost .280
On pace for like 24/100 right now, and his average is almost .280
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1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Matt Carpenter
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
OF - Alex Gordon
OF - Alfonso Soriano
OF - Dayan Viciedo
U - Eric Hosmer
Bench - Coco Crisp, Dayan Viciedo, Marcell Ozuna, Kelly Johnson, Dee Gordon
DL - Josh Reddick,
SP - Adam Wainwright, Lance Lynn, Derek Holland, Paul Maholm, Edinson Volquez, Bronson Arroyo, Jarrod Parker
RP - Craig Kimbrel, Trevor Rosenthal
C - Jesus Montero
1B - Freddie Freeman
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Matt Carpenter
SS - Troy Tulowitzki
OF - Alex Gordon
OF - Alfonso Soriano
OF - Dayan Viciedo
U - Eric Hosmer
Bench - Coco Crisp, Dayan Viciedo, Marcell Ozuna, Kelly Johnson, Dee Gordon
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