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[cbe_88]

I've been the one all along saying that if SJax leaves town, which he officially has now, that Richardson will be in line to thrive in a starting role.

It was Richardson, not Pead, that stepped up as a valuable RB behind SJax last year that showed some promising runs. However, It would be naive to ignore Jeff Fisher's comments saying he thinks it's possible Pead could be an every down back for them.

I'm still a Richardson believer if St. Louis decides to roll with these two and not make any further additions. If it's between these two give me Daryl Richardson as a solid RB3 who I think has every shot at a starting gig next year.

Do you think they add some legitimate competition here? Where do you grade Daryl's value?

As I said he's absolutely on my RB3 radar, my guess is he ends up with a starting gig. Albeit not an very attractive starting gig but there's production to be had in every backfield and someone has a golden chace to step up here.

[Rob_P]

I own Richardson and Pead in my keeper league....can only keep one.   Richardson may be the logical choice based on last year but I have this feeling Pead will end up with the job.  Whoever starts there would have low RB2 potential especially in PPR leagues....but I don't know who it will be.

[Vupacalypse]

I like Pead more but I'm not gonna force the issue if his price skyrockets from now til the draft. The draft value of Richardson could likely warrant waiting on some sucker to reach on Pead, as we have yet to witness who wins the training camp battle it's very much up in the air.

[Winky]

Not sure anyone could like Pead more... no one has seen Pead.
Having said that, they did draft him higher, so that should buy him an an extended look.
Either way, both RBs are sub 200 lbs and neither are feature back material.
If you are inclined to draft one, just look at the one you choose as an RB3/RB4 flyer with upside.

Discliamer: I got Richardson and SJax in a dynasty, so good week overall this week. (cool stroy, bro)

[DocJ]

I have a feeling they will give Pead many opportunities to become the feature RB this season, time will tell if he steps up. If he struggles Richardson could be a pretty good RB3/flex gamble.

[Proteus]

It's too bad he's on a 3-and-out machine farm club. Otherwise he might be worth a 5-6th round pick. 7-8th ok. But isn't that when you better get the QB you're waiting on?

[Ribobizert]

Winky, on 15 March 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

Not sure anyone could like Pead more... no one has seen Pead.
Having said that, they did draft him higher, so that should buy him an an extended look.
Either way, both RBs are sub 200 lbs and neither are feature back material.
If you are inclined to draft one, just look at the one you choose as an RB3/RB4 flyer with upside.

Discliamer: I got Richardson and SJax in a dynasty, so good week overall this week. (cool stroy, bro)

Just checked richardsons stats, in that offense he had 98 carries for 475 yds (4.8 ypc).  SJAX had 4.1 ypc.

in games that he had 7 or more carries, he had 373 yds on 64 carries for 5.8 ypc.  

I don't believe he could maintain that high ypc if he is given the majority carries, but since he'll likely be in a RBBC he should have a good ypc.
Even if you think pead is better (despite the great point that Winky made above) its obvious richardson has talent.  So even if they want to give Pead the job, Richardson isn't going to just disappear. I think richardson will end up with the majority carries but it'll be an RBBC with those smaller RBs.  I'll take proven talent over unknown hype every time.  Unless there is a clear separation between the two by the end of preseason, I would think his adp/value going into next yr will be slightly higher than the Donald Brown/Beanie wells crowd last yr.  

Anyone know why Pead rode the pine last yr? like was he bad at pass protection or got in the dog house?

Disclaimer: I picked up D-Wilson right before Brown went down in a keeper league (another story made cool by offseason moves)

Edited by Ribobizert, 16 March 2013 - 02:51 AM.

[Winky]

Ribobizert, on 16 March 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

Anyone know why Pead rode the pine last yr? like was he bad at pass protection or got in the dog house?

He fumbled once or twice... immediate doghouse for a rookie.
David Wilson had to work through the same stuff, but he ended up getting back on the field whereas Pead never really got the opportunity.

Pead had 10 carries all season and 5 of those were Week 17... that's tough to figure for a high draft pick and the team going 7-8-1.  It leads me to believe there was something more than the fumbling issue (or the fumbling issue is worse than anyone outside the Rams knows).

Either way it is a new season with a new regime and an opportunity for a fresh start.
Fisher will get both players their looks early, but he will not tolerate any fumbling either if that happens to be the only issue for Pead.

FWIW:
The Rams won 4 of their last 6 while Richardson/Pead barely sniffed the ball.
Richardson finished off the last 5 games going for a total of 16 carries for 24 yards.
Couple that with the fact that he did not cross the stripe all season and you have pretty uninspiring results.
While he is deserving of a role in the offense, I am not sure he did enough to carve out top dog status.
He did catch 24 balls which was unexpected and pretty solid.

Pre-season will tell us a lot more about how each of these guys will be deployed.
If they do not draft a bruiser, then I anticipate a fairly even job split.

I can also see the Rams picking up someone like Ahmad Bradshaw... a vet with heart that can teach the kids a thing or two about a thing or two before he crumbles and hits IR.... maybe Deangelo Williams or someone else like that.

Edited by Winky, 16 March 2013 - 06:57 AM.

[Ribobizert]

I'm a believer in RBs needing more than a few carries to "warm up" and find their "rhythm" so to speak, kind of like how relief pitchers get warm up throws and NBA players do shoot arounds.  Though just as i extrapolated stats from when he got more than 6 carries for some of D-rich's stats, its completely fair that you present those as well to get a better idea of the whole picture

[Winky]

Ribobizert, on 16 March 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

I'm a believer in RBs needing more than a few carries to "warm up" and find their "rhythm" so to speak, kind of like how relief pitchers get warm up throws and NBA players do shoot arounds.  Though just as i extrapolated stats from when he got more than 6 carries for some of D-rich's stats, its completely fair that you present those as well to get a better idea of the whole picture

Believe me... I saw the flashes that dazzled, so I firmly in his camp as a fan, but I am loathe to overdraft.
That offense has a ways to go before committee RBs have stand alone value.

[Ribobizert]

Winky, on 16 March 2013 - 05:12 PM, said:

Ribobizert, on 16 March 2013 - 05:03 PM, said:

I'm a believer in RBs needing more than a few carries to "warm up" and find their "rhythm" so to speak, kind of like how relief pitchers get warm up throws and NBA players do shoot arounds.  Though just as i extrapolated stats from when he got more than 6 carries for some of D-rich's stats, its completely fair that you present those as well to get a better idea of the whole picture

Believe me... I saw the flashes that dazzled, so I firmly in his camp as a fan, but I am loathe to overdraft.
That offense has a ways to go before committee RBs have stand alone value.

That offense is also why I fear that he may get over drafted as it's hard to rely on a guy in a RBBC to be anything more than a RB3.  Unless Bradford starts balling like his days at OU, in that offense his TD potential is relatively minimal.  I'd compare the offensive situation  to something like the cards last season, but with more yardage opportunities since D-Rich/Pead have more talent than the cards RBBC (I've always been a charter member of the official Beanie Wells hater fan club).

[RotoRaysfan]

Pead got benched for 3 reasons as I understand it:

1.  He didn't know the playbook
2.  He didn't blitz protect well
3.  He fumbled

Those are going to get rookies benched for sure.  D-Rich did a nice job so deserves an open competition.  Fisher's most recent statements clearly show he thinks a lot about Pead, saying they drafted him to be a 3-down back.  

Reading the tea leaves, if Pead shows he understands the playbook & can pass protect, I think Fisher wants him to win the job.  But until then you have to give D-Rich his due.  For obvious reasons training camp will be huge for those 2.

[sasnumberonefan]

I am a D-Rich believer, and I think he steps up great in a full time starter role next year. Kid is talented.

[predator_05]

In comes Zac Stacy.

Another RBBC, i think. Stacy is a hard hitting inside runner. Richardson more of a speed guy that could feature on passing downs.