I drafted this guy. I have no idea why. It was just one of those late picks. I've only owned him as a streamer years ago, not last year.
So I got to look up his thread to see people's thoughts, and there's nothing
I figure most people are just sooo over him? ... I dunno ... can someone tell me why there's reason to be excited here? is there still a higher cieling than what we've seen?
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Edwin Jackson 2013 Outlookis who he is
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 10:13 PM
twelve team h2h, 3 keepers
avg/ops/hr/r/rbi/sb * k/w/whip/era/sv
C/ Zunino
1B/ Votto
2B/ Phillips
SS/ Franklin
MI/ Aybar
3B/ Freese
CI/ Rizzo
OF/ Craig
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
Ut/ Werth
SP/ Latos, Parker, Gio, Lohse, Teheran,
Nolasco, Dickey, Cole, Cahill, T Hudson
RP/ Perkins
BN/ Everth
DL/ Anderson, Burnett
avg/ops/hr/r/rbi/sb * k/w/whip/era/sv
C/ Zunino
1B/ Votto
2B/ Phillips
SS/ Franklin
MI/ Aybar
3B/ Freese
CI/ Rizzo
OF/ Craig
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
Ut/ Werth
SP/ Latos, Parker, Gio, Lohse, Teheran,
Nolasco, Dickey, Cole, Cahill, T Hudson
RP/ Perkins
BN/ Everth
DL/ Anderson, Burnett
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 11:36 PM
I don't think there is a higher ceiling. I'd take him in roto, but it's hard for me to get on board with an inconsistent #5 in H2H that might ruin your good pitchers starts.
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:37 AM
YR FIP xFIP
10- 3.87 3.71
11- 3.55 3.73
12- 3.85 3.79
K/9 ~7.0 every year.
Why doesn't he get more love? I don't think last year's 8 K/9 is sustainable but he's a solid back-end arm in mixed leagues and he gets no love.
GOING 4 THREEPEAT- DYNASTY 6x6 OPS and HOLDS 12 team $300 cap
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 04:26 AM
cyberer, on 21 March 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:
YR FIP xFIP
10- 3.87 3.71
11- 3.55 3.73
12- 3.85 3.79
K/9 ~7.0 every year.
Why doesn't he get more love? I don't think last year's 8 K/9 is sustainable but he's a solid back-end arm in mixed leagues and he gets no love.
Pitching in a terrible park/lineup & in the same division as the Cardinals (who historically OWN him). His shortstop is freakin rich man's Ronny Cedeno (Starlin Castro)
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 12:04 PM
cyberer, on 21 March 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:
Why doesn't he get more love?
It is hard to love a guy with a career 1.44 WHIP
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 09:53 PM
cyberer, on 21 March 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:
YR FIP xFIP
10- 3.87 3.71
11- 3.55 3.73
12- 3.85 3.79
K/9 ~7.0 every year.
Why doesn't he get more love? I don't think last year's 8 K/9 is sustainable but he's a solid back-end arm in mixed leagues and he gets no love.
I don't get it either. I understand the Cubs hurting his value a bit this year, but he gets hated on every year while putting up consistenly above-average numbers. I will gladly draft him when he falls every year. And his WHIP over the last 4 years, 1.33, is league average. Either way, who cares when he doesn't let it kill him?
18-team all-around points league
C- M. Montero
1B- P. Konerko
2B- J. Altuve
3B- D. Freese
SS- B. Zobrist
OF- A. Jackson
OF- C. Beltran
OF- A. Pagan
DH- G. Jones
BN- A. Ramirez, C. Ross, D. Stubbs, M. Izturis, A. Rodriguez (DL)
SP- S. Strasburg
SP- D. Price
SP- A. Sanchez
SP- A. Ogando
SP- A. Griffin
CL- G. Perkins
BN- J. Fernandez, J. Grimm, D. Phelps, J. Blanton, Z. Greinke (DL), B. Beachy (DL), T. Lilly (DL), B. Myers (DL), N. Eovaldi (DL)
C- M. Montero
1B- P. Konerko
2B- J. Altuve
3B- D. Freese
SS- B. Zobrist
OF- A. Jackson
OF- C. Beltran
OF- A. Pagan
DH- G. Jones
BN- A. Ramirez, C. Ross, D. Stubbs, M. Izturis, A. Rodriguez (DL)
SP- S. Strasburg
SP- D. Price
SP- A. Sanchez
SP- A. Ogando
SP- A. Griffin
CL- G. Perkins
BN- J. Fernandez, J. Grimm, D. Phelps, J. Blanton, Z. Greinke (DL), B. Beachy (DL), T. Lilly (DL), B. Myers (DL), N. Eovaldi (DL)
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Posted 21 March 2013 - 10:56 PM
cyberer, on 21 March 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:
YR FIP xFIP
10- 3.87 3.71
11- 3.55 3.73
12- 3.85 3.79
K/9 ~7.0 every year.
Why doesn't he get more love? I don't think last year's 8 K/9 is sustainable but he's a solid back-end arm in mixed leagues and he gets no love.
10- 3.87 3.71
11- 3.55 3.73
12- 3.85 3.79
K/9 ~7.0 every year.
Why doesn't he get more love? I don't think last year's 8 K/9 is sustainable but he's a solid back-end arm in mixed leagues and he gets no love.
Why isn't his K/9 sustainable? His SwStrk% shot thru the roof last year...if anything, his K/9 should be higher.
Edited by My Dinner With Andre, 21 March 2013 - 10:56 PM.
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Posted 22 March 2013 - 07:57 AM
umphrey, on 20 March 2013 - 11:36 PM, said:
I don't think there is a higher ceiling. I'd take him in roto, but it's hard for me to get on board with an inconsistent #5 in H2H that might ruin your good pitchers starts.
i take the opposite approach. i'd rather a guy implode in h2h, at least once the weeks over, the damage is done and i don't gotta trying working down the era wreckage for a month.
twelve team h2h, 3 keepers
avg/ops/hr/r/rbi/sb * k/w/whip/era/sv
C/ Zunino
1B/ Votto
2B/ Phillips
SS/ Franklin
MI/ Aybar
3B/ Freese
CI/ Rizzo
OF/ Craig
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
Ut/ Werth
SP/ Latos, Parker, Gio, Lohse, Teheran,
Nolasco, Dickey, Cole, Cahill, T Hudson
RP/ Perkins
BN/ Everth
DL/ Anderson, Burnett
avg/ops/hr/r/rbi/sb * k/w/whip/era/sv
C/ Zunino
1B/ Votto
2B/ Phillips
SS/ Franklin
MI/ Aybar
3B/ Freese
CI/ Rizzo
OF/ Craig
OF/ J Upton
OF/ Ellsbury
Ut/ Werth
SP/ Latos, Parker, Gio, Lohse, Teheran,
Nolasco, Dickey, Cole, Cahill, T Hudson
RP/ Perkins
BN/ Everth
DL/ Anderson, Burnett
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 07:12 PM
Bouncing everything out there this inning.. Doesnt have any control today looks like
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C: Posey
1B: Butler
2B: Kipnis
3B: Moustakas
SS: Asdrubal
IF: Alvarez
OF: McCutchen, Trout, Ethier, Young
U: Hardy, Duda, Gattis
Bench: McKenry, Sizemore, Nelson, Izturis
SP: Gio, Zimmerman, McCarthy, Holland, Bedard, McAllister, M. Gonzalez, Villanueva, Kazmir, J Sanchez
RP: Melancon, Pestano, Bailey, Frieri, Kelly, Rodney, Doolittle, Bell,, Rosenthal, Henderson, Cecil, Lyon, Bastardo
DL: Hutchison, Karstens, Affeldt
Notable prospects (35 man rosters):
Bundy, Mike Montgomery, Straily, Dahl, Hembree, Casey Kelly, Sims, DJ Davis, Heredia
C: Posey
1B: Butler
2B: Kipnis
3B: Moustakas
SS: Asdrubal
IF: Alvarez
OF: McCutchen, Trout, Ethier, Young
U: Hardy, Duda, Gattis
Bench: McKenry, Sizemore, Nelson, Izturis
SP: Gio, Zimmerman, McCarthy, Holland, Bedard, McAllister, M. Gonzalez, Villanueva, Kazmir, J Sanchez
RP: Melancon, Pestano, Bailey, Frieri, Kelly, Rodney, Doolittle, Bell,, Rosenthal, Henderson, Cecil, Lyon, Bastardo
DL: Hutchison, Karstens, Affeldt
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:35 PM
who's rolling him out there today? I'm a Milwaukeean and the brewers have to bounce back one of these days. its cold and rainy today in Chicago, and i guess the wind is blowing hard out to left....thoughts?????????
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SS: Asdrubal Cabrera
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:38 PM
Rolling with him in my weekly because of the two starts, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried about both. Hoping for a handful of K's and as little ERA and WHIP destruction as possible.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 12:52 PM
Wind is blowing out, beware.
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 01:53 PM
Well, disaster sums it up nicely
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 02:00 PM
Please pull him
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Posted 08 April 2013 - 04:05 PM
It was a bad start, but it could have been worse after that 1st inning. Maybe I just have a rosey outlook on bad starts since Price was bad enough to destroy my season yesterday.
GOING 4 THREEPEAT- DYNASTY 6x6 OPS and HOLDS 12 team $300 cap
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:28 PM
Unreliable clown
Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7......
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:29 PM
He pitched pretty well until that last inning. He was around 100 pitches, I would have yanked them, but the Cubs bullpen isn't exactly reliable.
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Lineup:
C: Matt Wieters ($19)
1B: Mark Reynolds ($6)
2B: Dustin Pedroia ($38, keeper)
SS: Starlin Castro ($35)
3B: Aramis Ramirez ($20)
OF: Mike Trout ($1, keeper)
OF: B.J. Upton ($10, keeper)
OF: Jose Bautista ($50)
UT: Adam Lind
3 SPs per week: Wainwright ($25), Ryu, G. Cole, Lohse, Ogando, Wheeler ($1), Beachy, Phelps, Straily, Hellickson
Reserves: C. Yelich (1$), K. Seager ($3), O. Taveras ($1)
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1B: Mark Reynolds ($6)
2B: Dustin Pedroia ($38, keeper)
SS: Starlin Castro ($35)
3B: Aramis Ramirez ($20)
OF: Mike Trout ($1, keeper)
OF: B.J. Upton ($10, keeper)
OF: Jose Bautista ($50)
UT: Adam Lind
3 SPs per week: Wainwright ($25), Ryu, G. Cole, Lohse, Ogando, Wheeler ($1), Beachy, Phelps, Straily, Hellickson
Reserves: C. Yelich (1$), K. Seager ($3), O. Taveras ($1)
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:41 PM
don't want to come across as a jerk/captain obvious, but unless youre in deep leagues or are allowed any number of streamers, there is no reason to own this guy. especially since he's on the cubs now. he'll be great in one outing and absolutely destroy your ratios the next one...
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Posted 14 April 2013 - 03:42 PM
This ones on sveum. Over 100 pitches, allowing baserunner after baserunner, throwing pitch in the dirt after pitch in the dirt, and he keeps riding him into the ground. Infuriating. He had a masterful start until that. Should have been pulled after the first 2 walks.
GOING 4 THREEPEAT- DYNASTY 6x6 OPS and HOLDS 12 team $300 cap
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
C Posey $15
1B Pujols $60
2B Howie Kendrick $5
3B Beltre $34
SS Hanley $38 Erick Aybar
OF1 Stanton $15 Bourn OF2 Nick Swisher OF3 Ryan Braun $59
UTIL1 Berkman $3 UTIL2 Brett Gardner
SP1 Waino $12 SP2 Shields $11 SP3 Hamels
SP4 Cain SP5 Jered Weaver SP6 Cashner
SP7 Josh Becket
CL1 Romo $12 CL2 Grant Balfour CL3 Bobby Parnell
HLD1 Clippard $3 HLD2 Benoit $1 HLD3 Duensing (SP eligible)
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