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Jordan Cameron 2013 Season OutlookThe next Gates or Graham?


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#1 J.T. Marlin

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 12:04 PM

I don't see much of the CLE games or highlights and I know that this guy hasn't done much so far but his talent and potential to produce for this season is intriguing.  Chud and Norv love to utilize their TE and Cameron is in a position to be their clear starting/pass catching TE.  KDavis and Barnidge are part time players and better as blockers.

Can this former b-ball player actually play football?  If so, he's a major sleeper at TE for 2013.

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 01:34 PM

For awhile I've had visions of red zone targets dancing in my head for Cameron, then they signed Nelson who is 6'5" 225 so who knows. Will definitely be on my breakout candidate TE list.
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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:09 PM

Forgot about that recent signing.  Slightly concerning but unless CLE uses a high to mid rd draft pick on TE, I'm betting that they are sold on Cameron being able to make the leap.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:41 AM

I'm really excited for his potential this season. He's in a great spot to shine, my top TE sleeper candidate this year.

I'd love to have him on my team right now. I didn't have room on my dynasty league roster to get him so he sat on waivers for weeks, then a guy who never makes savvy moves picked him up causing much indignation. Housler too. Later I had to move Owen Daniels in a package for Cam Newton which opened a hole at TE. That hole got even worse when Scott Chandler blew out his knee. Consequently, I've spend all offseason obsessed with backup/unheralded TEs. This guy is unavailable but would be at the top of the list.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 03:36 PM

Does he have potential for the most tds ever?
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Posted 19 April 2013 - 01:59 PM

This is starting to look promising....
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Browns TE Jordan Cameron said he and the other tight ends on the roster are "lining up everywhere" -- in the slot, on the line, and out wide.

We wouldn't expect anything less under tight end aficionados Rob Chudzinski and Norv Turner. Chudzinski did the same with Greg Olsen in Carolina the last two seasons, and Olsen responded by setting career-highs in catches (69) and yards (843) in 2012. Cameron is expected to get in contact with Tony Gonzalez this summer to learn the intricacies of the position. Apr 18 - 2:08 PM
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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:59 AM

The arrow on Cameron's fantasy outlook continues to point up.  CLE did not address the TE position in the draft and their FA additions of Kellen "Hands of Stone" Davis and Gary "the Barn Burner" Barnidge should not be considered threats.  Cameron looks to be the clear starter on a team with an offense that heavily features their TE in the passing game.  Plus his 6'5" 250lb size makes him an ideal RZ option.

If Pitta ends up going too high for my liking, I will just sit back and use a late pick on someone like MBennett, Finley, BMyers, JCook, or Keller and then use an even later pick on Cameron.

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:15 AM

I'm ranking Cameron higher on my Dynasty FA/Rookie draft list than Cook, Housler, Myers and any of the rookie TE simply for opportunity (coaches with history of TE feature) and better QB play in Cleveland.

Edited by scienergy, 03 May 2013 - 10:16 AM.


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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:50 PM

If I pass on Graham I'm just waiting on this guy.

Been productive whenever on the field ... Could be a top 10 TE if he actually gets featured in the offense.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:04 PM

I forget who it was last season, but my main knock when talking about potential breakout TE candidates were their seemingly lack of physicality after the catch.  I was looking for a Gronk-type TE who would use his size/weight advantage to abuse secondary defenders who would try to tackle him after catching passes.

All Jordan Cameron's targets from 2011:


Marked improvement, all his catches from 2012:


You notice in the 2012 recap video, he's open a LOT more often, and he gets upfield after making the catch, and does not shy away from contact.  All qualities I like for a potential breakout TE.

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:06 PM



Might be notable that he did suffer a concussion on this play, a little reminiscent of Jahvid Best's massive college concussion:


View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:24 PM

Dunking a few footballs:


View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:51 PM

I would like him more if his QB wasn't Brandon Weeden.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:55 PM

i don't think the browns offense is going to be good enough to put him anywhere near graham at the end of the year.

cameron could easily be a top 10 TE, but he's definitely capped by the browns offense.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:04 PM

Its a run first offense, they will run it with Richardson more often than not and use his massive frame to punch it in when they get close to the end zone.

To be a solid fantasy TE, you need to be a major part of the passing game. How does Cameron become a major part of a passing game when, 1. the QB is average and 2. they have one of the few workhorse backs in the game? It won't happen.

Best case scenario: Kyle Rudolph. An easy target in the end zone, 7 TDs or so but low yardage. He will get very few targets between the 20s.

I would rather have Jared Cook.
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:04 PM

View Postrraayy3, on 10 May 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

i don't think the browns offense is going to be good enough to put him anywhere near graham at the end of the year.

cameron could easily be a top 10 TE, but he's definitely capped by the browns offense.

But a solid late-round TE option (I'd suggest pairing him with Cook AND Bennett in that scenario), and I think if he really comes on strong he could flirt with double-digit TDs (10, maybe 12 as his ceiling).

By late round, I mean any time after you lock up all the other starting positions on your roster.  In my 12-team league for example, we start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, and 1 K, soooo...Round 7 or 8 and after.  Maybe take a guy like Finley or Gates if he fell to Round 7 or 8 and you don't see any RBs/WRs left that you love, then take Cook AND Cameron the following two rounds (since TE is probably your weakest position with that draft strategy, it gives you more chances to hit gold), or something like that.

I think we might peg him for Zach Miller 2009 type numbers at this point:

66 receptions, 805 receiving yards

With room for some more upside if things actually come together for him.

I'm not saying he's going to be close to Gronk or Graham, but the potential for upside is certainly there.  I think I like Cook's chances of hitting that kind of upside a little more than Cameron's, but if you can load up on other positions early, some mixture of Finley/Cook/Cameron/Bennett/Pitta should suffice most weeks if your early round picks pan out.

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:06 PM

View Postpredator_05, on 10 May 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

Its a run first offense, they will run it with Richardson more often than not and use his massive frame to punch it in when they get close to the end zone.

To be a solid fantasy TE, you need to be a major part of the passing game. How does Cameron become a major part of a passing game when, 1. the QB is average and 2. they have one of the few workhorse backs in the game? It won't happen.

Best case scenario: Kyle Rudolph. An easy target in the end zone, 7 TDs or so but low yardage. He will get very few targets between the 20s.

I would rather have Jared Cook.

I think this is actually a good, logical assessment of the situation.  The upside potential is there, but there are other factors why that upside may simply not come to fruition.

If Richardson gets hurt though, and this guy is somehow floating in your league's FA pool during the season, I'd burn a high waiver claim on him in that scenario.

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:10 PM

View PostRobrain, on 10 May 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

View Postrraayy3, on 10 May 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

i don't think the browns offense is going to be good enough to put him anywhere near graham at the end of the year.

cameron could easily be a top 10 TE, but he's definitely capped by the browns offense.

But a solid late-round TE option (I'd suggest pairing him with Cook AND Bennett in that scenario), and I think if he really comes on strong he could flirt with double-digit TDs (10, maybe 12 as his ceiling).

By late round, I mean any time after you lock up all the other starting positions on your roster.  In my 12-team league for example, we start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, and 1 K, soooo...Round 7 or 8 and after.  Maybe take a guy like Finley or Gates if he fell to Round 7 or 8 and you don't see any RBs/WRs left that you love, then take Cook AND Cameron the following two rounds (since TE is probably your weakest position with that draft strategy, it gives you more chances to hit gold), or something like that.

I think we might peg him for Zach Miller 2009 type numbers at this point:

66 receptions, 805 receiving yards

With room for some more upside if things actually come together for him.

I'm not saying he's going to be close to Gronk or Graham, but the potential for upside is certainly there.  I think I like Cook's chances of hitting that kind of upside a little more than Cameron's, but if you can load up on other positions early, some mixture of Finley/Cook/Cameron/Bennett/Pitta should suffice most weeks if your early round picks pan out.

Wow, draft 3 TE's?  I get it, but in most leagues that takes up way too many roster spots.

Edited by Deadpool, 11 May 2013 - 08:11 PM.

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Posted 11 May 2013 - 08:27 PM

View PostDeadpool, on 11 May 2013 - 08:10 PM, said:

View PostRobrain, on 10 May 2013 - 03:04 PM, said:

View Postrraayy3, on 10 May 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

i don't think the browns offense is going to be good enough to put him anywhere near graham at the end of the year.

cameron could easily be a top 10 TE, but he's definitely capped by the browns offense.

But a solid late-round TE option (I'd suggest pairing him with Cook AND Bennett in that scenario), and I think if he really comes on strong he could flirt with double-digit TDs (10, maybe 12 as his ceiling).

By late round, I mean any time after you lock up all the other starting positions on your roster.  In my 12-team league for example, we start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 DEF, and 1 K, soooo...Round 7 or 8 and after.  Maybe take a guy like Finley or Gates if he fell to Round 7 or 8 and you don't see any RBs/WRs left that you love, then take Cook AND Cameron the following two rounds (since TE is probably your weakest position with that draft strategy, it gives you more chances to hit gold), or something like that.

I think we might peg him for Zach Miller 2009 type numbers at this point:

66 receptions, 805 receiving yards

With room for some more upside if things actually come together for him.

I'm not saying he's going to be close to Gronk or Graham, but the potential for upside is certainly there.  I think I like Cook's chances of hitting that kind of upside a little more than Cameron's, but if you can load up on other positions early, some mixture of Finley/Cook/Cameron/Bennett/Pitta should suffice most weeks if your early round picks pan out.

Wow, draft 3 TE's?  I get it, but in most leagues that takes up way too many roster spots.

My strategy is typically draft an absurd amount of high upside fliers at the final position I draft.

QB:
WR1:
WR2:
WR3:
RB1:
RB2:
TE:

Whichever slot I fill last, I usually draft a minimum of 3 players for that slot.  That way, I can at worst play a rotation each week with their matchups, or one of the three pans out into a most-weeks type of starter.

Let's say I take WR, RB, WR, RB, QB, TE, through the first six rounds.  The only spot I haven't filled yet is my WR3 spot.  It's highly likely that at least 2 of my next 3 draft picks will be a WR at that point. (Rounds 7, 8, and 9).  I worry primarily about my starting spots first, then worry about depth after I'm confident in my starters.

So if I take TE last, I'm definitely going to draft/roster 3 of them.  They won't necessarily stay on my roster all season.  Most likely the suckiest of the trio will get cut by Week 4 of the regular season.  You hold onto them long enough to get an idea of whether or not they have a reasonable chance of panning out to the point where you'd actually insert them into your starting lineup.  If they would never make your starting lineup, they get cut (that goes for all positions).

View PostHolben, on 20 July 2012 - 04:44 PM, said:

Jackie Battle...Better than Chris Johnson...

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RB1: Mikel LeShoure - RB2: Dexter McCluster - Bench: Montario Hardesty, Kevin Smith
TE: Dennis Pitta
FLEX: Tony Gonzalez
K: Greg Zuerlein

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:33 PM

Not a terrible strategy I suppose, but I'm not drafting more than 1 te, seems to easy to find one in fa to worry about stashing them.




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