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Hiram Burgos 2013 Outlook


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#1 kobe24

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

Anything to see here?


Brewers prospect right-hander Hiram Burgos will be called up from Triple-A Nashville to start Saturday against the Cubs.

It will be his major league debut. Burgos, 25, posted a 1.95 ERA and 153/49 K/BB ratio in 171 innings last season between three different levels in the minors last season. He doesn't throw hard, but gets by with good command and his ability to throw strikes. Those in NL-only leagues should give him a shot



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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

Interesting. I was intrigued after seeing him in the WBC. I'll defer to the experts here on whether he would be fantasy relevant this year, though...

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 05:54 PM

I think he has a good chance to stick. The Brewers basically have Gallardo as a solid starter. The Fiers experiment has apparently failed as they sent him back to AAA. Wily Peralta has not done well at all so far. Looks like hes got good strikeout ability and he moved through the farm system quick last year. Hes already 25 so the Brewers might as well find out if he is a piece of their pitching puzzle now.

Edited by avatoot, 18 April 2013 - 05:55 PM.

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Hitting Categories: R. HR. RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OBP, SLG

Pitching Categories: W, SV, K, TB, ERA, WHIP, K/9, QS
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3B - Sandoval
SS - Holt

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OF - Pence

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Util - J. Harrison
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:00 PM

ESPN doesn't have him in the data base.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:02 PM

ESPN doesn't have him in the data base.


Either does Yahoo.
12 Team H2H Cats 8X8 $League
Hitting Categories: R. HR. RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OBP, SLG

Pitching Categories: W, SV, K, TB, ERA, WHIP, K/9, QS
C -   C. Santana

1B - V. Martinez
2B - Kinsler
3B - Sandoval
SS - Holt

OF - Blackmon
OF - Pence

OF - Yelich
Util - K. Vargas
Util - J. Harrison
BN - McCann, Granderson, Trumbo
SP - Greinke, Kershaw, Cueto, Hudson, Kuroda, Eovaldi, Holland, K. Hendricks
RP - K. Jansen, Rosenthal, C. Janssen, Petricka
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:05 PM

ESPN doesn't have him in the data base.


you sure? he is available in my league

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:07 PM

my bad, was looking under the phillies roster...DOH!
“There is nothing better than getting shot at and missed. It’s really great.” Gen "Mad Dog" Mattis

“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.” Gen "Mad Dog Mattis


“There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, cunning, obedience and alertness, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim.” Gen "Mad Dog" Mattis


"You must first realize the prison of your mind.......before you can escape it". author unknown


My comments and assessments are meant for long term keeper and dynasty leagues, not for redrafts

#8 kobe24

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:08 PM

i was gonna say espn has always been good at updating their player pools. yahoo on the other hand...

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

I'm intrigued by him. Fiers deception wasn't fooling anyone in his start. If Burgos pitches good, he could run with a spot in the rotation.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:10 PM

Chalk it up to an old man brainfart :blink:
“There is nothing better than getting shot at and missed. It’s really great.” Gen "Mad Dog" Mattis

“The most important six inches on the battlefield is between your ears.” Gen "Mad Dog Mattis


“There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, cunning, obedience and alertness, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim.” Gen "Mad Dog" Mattis


"You must first realize the prison of your mind.......before you can escape it". author unknown


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 06:12 PM

So he doesn't throw real hard but has 4 to 5 pitches? Doesn't throw his slider that much, and NOT a big walk machine. He tops out @ 90 to 91.
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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:40 PM

Streaming...

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RB:  Hill, Thomas, 

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 07:44 PM

So he doesn't throw real hard but has 4 to 5 pitches? Doesn't throw his slider that much, and NOT a big walk machine. He tops out @ 90 to 91.


His off-speed pitches are pretty damn good.

He dominated in the Classic.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 09:53 PM


So he doesn't throw real hard but has 4 to 5 pitches? Doesn't throw his slider that much, and NOT a big walk machine. He tops out @ 90 to 91.


His off-speed pitches are pretty damn good.

He dominated in the Classic.


Man wish I could have watched him in the classic or even knew that he pitched well. I debated the last two days whether or not to grab him and didn't pull the trigger. 25 year old that relies on control kind of turned me off but you never really know with these guys until you watch them or they get a chance

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 10:55 PM

Scouts have serious doubts about his stuff, and whether it will play in the big leagues. Last year, he started in high A, pitched well enough to get promoted all the way up to AAA, but saw his numbers regress with each promotion. He is #20 on a popular Brewers top prospect list.

I would be confident starting him against the Cubs in his first start, and streaming him if he's against a bottom 5 offense.

Edited by umphrey, 18 April 2013 - 10:57 PM.


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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:02 PM

Scouts have serious doubts about his stuff, and whether it will play in the big leagues. Last year, he started in high A, pitched well enough to get promoted all the way up to AAA, but saw his numbers regress with each promotion. He is #20 on a popular Brewers top prospect list.

I would be confident starting him against the Cubs in his first start, and streaming him if he's against a bottom 5 offense.


Maybe his stuff doesn't translate, but the regression argument seems rather weak. He dominated A ball last year so of course he wasn't going to repeat that in AA/AAA. He still pitched well at every level.

If I had to take a guess, I think he can be a good #3/#4 in the big leagues. From what I remember, his fastball velocity is rather underwhelming, but he has a 12-6 curve and a really good changeup.

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Posted 18 April 2013 - 11:29 PM

I'm going to go pick this guy up and give him a try. You don' t have to throw 95 plus to be a good pitcher. Sure as hell doesn't hurt, but locating & control, and keeping hitters off balance is key.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:06 PM

To anyone that saw the game, did he look good? His stat line is promising with 5 innings, 5 hits, and just 1 run. In position for the win.
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Posted 20 April 2013 - 08:28 PM

To anyone that saw the game, did he look good? His stat line is promising with 5 innings, 5 hits, and just 1 run. In position for the win.


He looked ok. I don't think you can make a determination after facing a team as weak-hitting as the Cubs. He didn't beat himself and he was around the plate, but he looked a little hittable to me, as evidenced by the 5 hits. I think a team like the Cardinals would tee off against him, and since he would face them frequently within the division, that hurts his value for me.

But he pitched well. I have doubts about his ability to be a fantasy asset if he's not going to be able to strike people out.

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Posted 22 April 2013 - 12:05 PM

whats his deal, is he in the rotation? is he getting skipped this week if he is?