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Bryce Brown 2013 Season OutlookWorth taking if you're not a McCoy owner?


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#1 ipg46

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:12 AM

Of the three talented backups (Tate, Pierce, Bryce Brown) to stud RBs (Foster, Rice, McCoy), Bryce Brown is the only one I'd pick up if I wasn't a Foster/Rice/McCoy owner and didn't need to handcuff. The guy looked like Adrian Peterson in those first 2 games when he busted out for 350 yards and 4TDs. Sure, he was shut down in the next 2 games, but still showed some undeniable potential to be a major force if he solves his fumbling problems and gets some playing time. Worth a late round pick even if you don't have McCoy, I think.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 11:22 AM

I tend to agree with you. I really like this guy. Has plus vision, plus speed, is a bigger guy and runs hard. His only problems are that he bounces everything outside and the fumbling issues both of which can be fixed. In Kelly's college offense he routinely used two RBs sometimes even three. I know this isn't Oregon and he won't be running the same exact sets but he is a run first coach especially considering the lack of a real QB on their team. With that said I believe Brown can be drafted as a RB4/RB5 with a floor of being a Shady handcuff (whether you own him or not) and a ceiling of a RB3 even if Shady doesn't get hurt.

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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:02 PM

Absolutely unusable unless McCoy gets hurt.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

View Postchiefdog10, on 14 June 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

I tend to agree with you. I really like this guy. Has plus vision, plus speed, is a bigger guy and runs hard. His only problems are that he bounces everything outside and the fumbling issues both of which can be fixed. In Kelly's college offense he routinely used two RBs sometimes even three. I know this isn't Oregon and he won't be running the same exact sets but he is a run first coach especially considering the lack of a real QB on their team. With that said I believe Brown can be drafted as a RB4/RB5 with a floor of being a Shady handcuff (whether you own him or not) and a ceiling of a RB3 even if Shady doesn't get hurt.

A RB3 ceiling if McCoy is healthy? Maybe the funniest thing I've heard all year.
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Posted 14 June 2013 - 08:00 PM

I'm in a PPR league, and I've consistently been grabbing Bryce in the late rounds because I agree that he has flex appeal if this Kelly offense is going to run as many plays as it's rumored to be planning.  I think RB3 production is... what, 5-8 points a week?  2 catches and 40 yards as McCoys backup seems reasonable.  Add in McCoys concussions, an up tempo offense which could mean he stays on the field for an entire drive etc.  I'm probably biased because I picked him up last year and used him for those 2 awesome weeks!
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:25 AM

I know Philly is expected to run frequently this season but I'm not entirely sold on Brown as a legit flex option. I suppose his ceiling, barring a McCoy injury, would be low-end RB3, maybe a bye week flex fill-in. Worst case scenario, Philly stays healthy and Kelly doesn't get Brown involved enough to be fantasy relevant.

He has value, though, as a late round pick for cautious McCoy owners and for owners in deep leagues looking to add late-round backfield depth.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:57 AM

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 15 June 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

I know Philly is expected to run frequently this season but I'm not entirely sold on Brown as a legit flex option. I suppose his ceiling, barring a McCoy injury, would be low-end RB3, maybe a bye week flex fill-in. Worst case scenario, Philly stays healthy and Kelly doesn't get Brown involved enough to be fantasy relevant.

I agree, but he did say 'RB3 upside'  meaning not a weekly reliable flex play.  At the late rounds he's available (11.05) I simply view him as another Lotto Ticket who's already showed us what's he capable of with the lead role.
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 10:59 AM

View PostFFCollusion, on 15 June 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 15 June 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

I know Philly is expected to run frequently this season but I'm not entirely sold on Brown as a legit flex option. I suppose his ceiling, barring a McCoy injury, would be low-end RB3, maybe a bye week flex fill-in. Worst case scenario, Philly stays healthy and Kelly doesn't get Brown involved enough to be fantasy relevant.

I agree, but he did say 'RB3 upside'  meaning not a weekly reliable flex play.  At the late rounds he's available (11.05) I simply view him as another Lotto Ticket who's already showed us what's he capable of with the lead role.

Yeah??? I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with anyone. I was just giving my take.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 11:02 AM

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 15 June 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

View PostFFCollusion, on 15 June 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

View PostSenatorSpaceman, on 15 June 2013 - 01:25 AM, said:

I know Philly is expected to run frequently this season but I'm not entirely sold on Brown as a legit flex option. I suppose his ceiling, barring a McCoy injury, would be low-end RB3, maybe a bye week flex fill-in. Worst case scenario, Philly stays healthy and Kelly doesn't get Brown involved enough to be fantasy relevant.

I agree, but he did say 'RB3 upside'  meaning not a weekly reliable flex play.  At the late rounds he's available (11.05) I simply view him as another Lotto Ticket who's already showed us what's he capable of with the lead role.

Yeah??? I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with anyone. I was just giving my take.

I wasn't arguing with you, just expanding my views on the discussion at hand.
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:17 PM

If you're looking for a late round flex play, I would go Andre Brown over Bryce.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:23 PM

View PostCoprolagnia, on 15 June 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you're looking for a late round flex play, I would go Andre Brown over Bryce.

Moot point seeing as how Andre Brown is being drafted 2 rounds earlier.
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Posted 15 June 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostCoprolagnia, on 15 June 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you're looking for a late round flex play, I would go Andre Brown over Bryce.

Without a doubt. But yeah, these guys aren't really going in the same area in drafts. Andre is likely to be in more of a RBBC situation, while Bryce is the clear backup.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostFFCollusion, on 15 June 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostCoprolagnia, on 15 June 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you're looking for a late round flex play, I would go Andre Brown over Bryce.

Moot point seeing as how Andre Brown is being drafted 2 rounds earlier.

In my draft Andre went in RD 10, Bryce in RD 11...not all drafts are the same.

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Posted 15 June 2013 - 02:07 PM

View PostCoprolagnia, on 15 June 2013 - 01:44 PM, said:

View PostFFCollusion, on 15 June 2013 - 12:23 PM, said:

View PostCoprolagnia, on 15 June 2013 - 12:17 PM, said:

If you're looking for a late round flex play, I would go Andre Brown over Bryce.

Moot point seeing as how Andre Brown is being drafted 2 rounds earlier.

In my draft Andre went in RD 10, Bryce in RD 11...not all drafts are the same.

Andre in Round 10 is robbery.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:14 PM

A pit bull and her seven puppies belonging to Eagles RB Bryce Brown were among the animals seized in a suspected dog fighting operation in Wisconsin.
The seizure took place on May 21 at Northland Pits in Fall Creek, Wisconsin. During a Friday hearing, Bekah Weitz, the humane officer for the Eau Claire County Humane Association, said one of her concerns regarding the animals was they were being trained for fighting. When the dogs were seized, she saw scarring on seven animals. We'll have more on this story as further details emerge.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:20 PM

Ut oh.  Wouldn't you think you'd not dog fight if you had a QB in Philly who was in the pen for dog fighting?  Or maybe he is taking the rap for his QB?

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:33 PM

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Ut oh.  Wouldn't you think you'd not dog fight if you had a QB in Philly who was in the pen for dog fighting?  Or maybe he is taking the rap for his QB?

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:37 PM

From the looks of his Facebook page and his wife's, doesn't seem like he'd be involved in something like Vick was. I'd be very surprised if he was involved in illegal dog fighting. It does show him training his dog in "extreme" agility, but that could be just for self-defense or a hobby (be it an odd one.)  Who knows, maybe I'm being naive.

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http://www.philly.co...ting-case-.html

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In the comments of the above video, quote from his wife:
"I only posted this so B cod share it to his wall for all his dog ppl. He trains Clover so she can jump higher, get stronger, etc. and eventually compete in shows. not really my thing but I go to the park with them to be supportive lol"

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:43 PM

Pass protection a little bit too far. Great week for the NFL

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostholyBrowns, on 29 June 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

From the looks of his Facebook page and his wife's, doesn't seem like he'd be involved in something like Vick was. I'd be very surprised if he was involved in illegal dog fighting. It does show him training his dog in "extreme" agility, but that could be just for self-defense or a hobby (be it an odd one.)  Who knows, maybe I'm being naive.

Article I got this information from:

http://www.philly.co...ting-case-.html

Facebook page:
https://www.facebook...&type=2

In the comments of the above video, quote from his wife:
"I only posted this so B cod share it to his wall for all his dog ppl. He trains Clover so she can jump higher, get stronger, etc. and eventually compete in shows. not really my thing but I go to the park with them to be supportive lol"

The fact that his dogs were taken in relation to an actual dog-fighting thing means he has some link to it.  I think that's pretty clear.

The cops don't just randomly show up at your house and take your dogs without some kind of tip / reason for showing up at your house in the first place.
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FLEX2: Steven Jackson.......(04.02)............. RB - CJ Anderson..........(09.11)




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