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#1 Z06vette

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:04 PM

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.

Figured it was time to get a thread going. I've seen a few good changeups, looks to be a circle change with a little fade to it. The command isn't great but not very many rookies have great command especially in their first start. Reserving judgement for now, he has had some hard hit balls right at people

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:06 PM

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.

Figured it was time to get a thread going. I've seen a few good changeups, looks to be a circle change with a little fade to it. The command isn't great but not very many rookies have great command especially in their first start. Reserving judgement for now, he has had some hard hit balls right at people

He's looked pretty good, but the one thing I w
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:08 PM

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.

Figured it was time to get a thread going. I've seen a few good changeups, looks to be a circle change with a little fade to it. The command isn't great but not very many rookies have great command especially in their first start. Reserving judgement for now, he has had some hard hit balls right at people

He's looked pretty good, but the one thing I would say is his delivery is more than unorthodox, it's downright painful. They showed an X-mo of his change, and you could see the torque he puts on that elbow as he sort of swings his arm around and holds it, putting crazy stress on that joint. I think he'll live up to his initials of TJ at some point in the near future. It also isn't great for his shoulder either.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:09 PM

View Postmcbane, on 29 June 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.

Figured it was time to get a thread going. I've seen a few good changeups, looks to be a circle change with a little fade to it. The command isn't great but not very many rookies have great command especially in their first start. Reserving judgement for now, he has had some hard hit balls right at people

He's looked pretty good, but the one thing I would say is his delivery is more than unorthodox, it's downright painful. They showed an X-mo of his change, and you could see the torque he puts on that elbow as he sort of swings his arm around and holds it, putting crazy stress on that joint. I think he'll live up to his initials of TJ at some point in the near future. It also isn't great for his shoulder either.

If I'm not mistaken, he's already had TJ surgery.
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“When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down ‘happy’. They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life.” - John Lennon

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:11 PM

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

View Postmcbane, on 29 June 2013 - 01:08 PM, said:

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 12:59 PM, said:

Making his debut against the Mets today.


Dude doesn't look bad. Produces tons of ground balls. Has a decent slider.  The word is his change-up is a work on progress, couldn't tell that by the ones he's thrown today.

He has a unorthodox delivery.

Velocity is from 91 to 95 with his sinking fastball.

Let's see what happens the 2nd time around against the Mets.

Figured it was time to get a thread going. I've seen a few good changeups, looks to be a circle change with a little fade to it. The command isn't great but not very many rookies have great command especially in their first start. Reserving judgement for now, he has had some hard hit balls right at people

He's looked pretty good, but the one thing I would say is his delivery is more than unorthodox, it's downright painful. They showed an X-mo of his change, and you could see the torque he puts on that elbow as he sort of swings his arm around and holds it, putting crazy stress on that joint. I think he'll live up to his initials of TJ at some point in the near future. It also isn't great for his shoulder either.

If I'm not mistaken, he's already had TJ surgery.

That would t surprise me. His delivery is just cringe worthy. I would guess he's going to have it again at some point.
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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

Yea hes already had tommy john but thats something I think everyone notices with that delivery. He leads with his elbow which puts a lot of pressure on it. Lets not forget the negative of playing behind the Nats D as mr. error Zimmerman commits another

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:31 PM

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Yea hes already had tommy john but thats something I think everyone notices with that delivery. He leads with his elbow which puts a lot of pressure on it. Lets not forget the negative of playing behind the Nats D as mr. error Zimmerman commits another

And now a bloop popup that everyone gets a terrible jump on. The Nationals wonder why they aren't doing as well this year, I think they need to start with defense.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:34 PM

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Yea hes already had tommy john but thats something I think everyone notices with that delivery. He leads with his elbow which puts a lot of pressure on it. Lets not forget the negative of playing behind the Nats D as mr. error Zimmerman commits another

And now a bloop popup that everyone gets a terrible jump on. The Nationals wonder why they aren't doing as well this year, I think they need to start with defense.

That was pretty sad.

Edited by Z06vette, 29 June 2013 - 01:35 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:47 PM

View PostZ06vette, on 29 June 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

View Postbravesfan4life, on 29 June 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Yea hes already had tommy john but thats something I think everyone notices with that delivery. He leads with his elbow which puts a lot of pressure on it. Lets not forget the negative of playing behind the Nats D as mr. error Zimmerman commits another

And now a bloop popup that everyone gets a terrible jump on. The Nationals wonder why they aren't doing as well this year, I think they need to start with defense.

That was pretty sad.

At least Dorn didn't undercut Willie Mays Hayes and almost get injured on the collision.


Edit: holy crap! Please tell me everyone saw that?! That was amazing.

Edited by mcbane, 29 June 2013 - 01:49 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:48 PM

Wow poor Taylor, defense hanging him out to dry

Edited by Yanksfan06, 29 June 2013 - 01:49 PM.


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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:49 PM

Awesome, 2 errors on one play.

Edited by neverrelaxed, 29 June 2013 - 01:50 PM.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 01:54 PM

Guy is probably thinking he had better defense in the minors right about now.

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Posted 29 June 2013 - 02:03 PM

His command was iffy all day. Not sure how I feel about keeping him.
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Posted 04 July 2013 - 12:54 PM

Someone please tell me why Storen is allowed near a stadium let alone a pitchers mound?


What's wrong with keeping Ohlendorf in there for the 7th?  His style would have been better suited against the Brewers.  Cost Jordan an easy win.  I hope Davey Johnson is fired soon, such dumb decisions.  And Rendon should be batting lead off, Span is clearly killing this team and is totally useless.
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Posted 04 July 2013 - 01:10 PM

Well they pinch hit for ohlendorf in the 6th...

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Posted 04 July 2013 - 02:02 PM

View Postfreevick, on 04 July 2013 - 01:10 PM, said:

Well they pinch hit for ohlendorf in the 6th...

Made no sense, he could have done the same thing Lombardozzi did, sac them over.   Until Storen figures out how to pitch again, he should be doing mop up duty.  Absolutely no reason to have a pitcher with a 5 ERA in the 7th trying to hold a 3 run lead unless it's the first week of April.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 01:44 PM

A nice two start this week - anybody rolling him out there?

vs Phil.
vs Mia.
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Posted 08 July 2013 - 03:18 PM

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A nice two start this week - anybody rolling him out there?

vs Phil.
vs Mia.

I've got him as a stream start tomorrow for ratios. Definitely worth a start against the Marlins.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 07:34 AM

looking ahead to next week for 2 start pitchers (for leagues that consider this week and next week 2 separate weeks).

Not a lot of steamers available, and this kid gets 2 home games, vs. Pitt and NYM.

Not the worst matchups you can ask for, especially with the Nats putting up some more runs, and getting both games at home, he has a decent chance for 2 wins...should get one at least.

I stopped watching him after that first outing debacle, but it looks like he's been pitching better each game. Opinions?
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