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Jared Cosart 2013 OutlookHigh-upside... Astro?


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#1 Rabbit Maranville

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:28 PM

He's made it through 8 scoreless with 2 hits 2 walks and 2 K's.

Let's see if he can get the SO in his first major league start so we can pump up that hype machine heading into the ASB.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:31 PM

I'm on board - was waiting for this thread to pop up.

The Rays have been so hit or miss it's tough to tell if they're a difficult matchup but they've been hot recently so I believe they are in the top half of mlb offenses. Mighty impressive
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:32 PM

I did not watch the game and have not seen the highlights yet. Can someone give me the scouting report on this guy.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:38 PM

View PostDMCRUN, on 12 July 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

I did not watch the game and have not seen the highlights yet. Can someone give me the scouting report on this guy.
I'mma just copy and paste what I found:

Scouting Report

Body: Lean, athletic body with proportional limbs and natural strength through his core. Moderately broad shoulders tapers through torso to the waist. Needs to add strength to frame and has the room to do it.
Makeup: Diligent worker between starts and reportedly during the off-season. Continues to seek ways to improve. Very competitive on the mound with an almost arrogant belief in his ability to be overpower the batter.
Delivery/Mechanics: Lightning quick arm and an easy release of the ball from his hand make the arm action look easy. Explodes toward the plate from the balance position atop his windup, frequently landing very hard on a stiff front leg that causes his body to jolt as he releases the ball. Could stand to smooth things out to help improve his command.
Fastball (FB) Velocity (Wind-up): High – 99, Low – 92, Average – 94-95, Grade –70/80
Fastball (FB) Velocity (Stretch): High – 98, Low 92, Average 94-95, Grade – 70/80
Fastball (FB) Movement:  Explosive velocity with some deceptive life as it approaches the plate. Will bore in on right-handed hitters at times. Grade – 60/60
Overall Fastball: Elite pitch in short bursts with a chance to sit there with added strength and stamina. Very tough to square up when he maintains a good angle to the hitting zone. Can miss bats with just his fastball, even when hitters know its coming. Grade – 70/80
Curveball (CB): Consistently thrown in the 77-78 mph range. Pitch has good 11-5 shape with swing-and-miss potential when it’s on. Doesn’t always finish the pitch and will leave a spinner up in the zone. I have seen the pitch at its best and it can be a true out-pitch in the big leagues with added consistency. Grade – 50/70
Change-up (CH): Deceptive pitch because he maintains his arm speed. Lacks significant movement in any direction and relies purely on change in speed. Needs increased confidence to throw the pitch in critical spots. Could be a valuable piece against left-handed hitters even if it is only a fringe-average pitch. Grade – 40/50
Control:  Worked in the strike zone more in 2011 and showed significant improvement as a strike thrower. Throws strikes more consistently from the stretch than the windup where the jolt to his upper body is exaggerated.  Grade – 40/50
Command:  Athleticism allows for some command projection but the second half of his delivery mitigates that hope. Likely will never locate his fastball that well. Big step would be consistently working low and elevating when needed during an at-bat. Grade – 30/40

Summation: I have had the opportunity to personally scout Cosart extensively over the last three years, giving me a very good feel for his present and potential future abilities. His fastball-curveball combination gives him an outstanding foundation to be an impact MLB pitcher. Though his raw upside stands at the front of a rotation, his battles with command and consistency could leave him as more of a number three starter with maddeningly electric stuff. If the Astros become concerned over his long term durability, he could play up as an elite level two-pitch closer. His extreme competitiveness should allow him to pitch in either role with success.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:39 PM

So, he's going back to the minors, right?
100%?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:43 PM

View PostGumbo_Ghost, on 12 July 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

So, he's going back to the minors, right?
100%?

I would be truly shocked to see that. What makes you think this is the case?
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:15 PM

View PostRabbit Maranville, on 12 July 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostGumbo_Ghost, on 12 July 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

So, he's going back to the minors, right?
100%?

I would be truly shocked to see that. What makes you think this is the case?

I'm pretty sure the coaches said that
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 09:38 PM

View PostRabbit Maranville, on 12 July 2013 - 08:43 PM, said:

View PostGumbo_Ghost, on 12 July 2013 - 08:39 PM, said:

So, he's going back to the minors, right?
100%?

I would be truly shocked to see that. What makes you think this is the case?

that was the original plan. We'll see what happens after this performance though
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:39 PM

I'm pretty sure he's just being sent back down so he stays on his regular schedule and so that the Astros have that extra spot Saturday and Sunday.

After that performance, there's very little chance the stros leave him in AAA
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1B- Hee-Seop Choi
2B- Bo Hart  
3B- Doug Strange
SS- Matt Stairs
OF- Quinton McCracken
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OF- William Beane
UTIL- Kevin Young
BN- Tony Womack, Abner Dalrymple
SP- Luis Tiant, Dustin Nippert, Rick Ankiel, Charles Radbourn, Bea Arthur, Bob Walk
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

Not sure what some people are raving about. Dude only struck out two batters over 8 innings with FOUR swinging strikes out of 96 pitches (4.2% SwStr - atrocious). He also threw about 45% balls.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:59 PM

So are there any indications or reports as to when/if the Astros may call him back up?
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Posted 19 July 2013 - 04:21 PM

As expected Jarred Cosart will be recalled to start Tuesday, Bo Porter said. He is the Astros No. 5 starter.

Great news for dynasty owners because Cosart shouldn't be owned in mixed leagues until he can string together a couple of good starts.

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 06:00 PM

so he will stay up the rest of the season?

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Posted 23 July 2013 - 09:20 PM

Cosart's stat line is looking pretty decent for his 2nd career start against Oakland.

6 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K.

I haven't really seen this kid pitch yet, but his 1st two starts of his career are looking good right now. How do you guys feel about him for the rest of the year? I know he pitches for the Astros and they stink, but his first two starts look decent. Thoughts?
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Posted 24 July 2013 - 11:35 AM

I watched him pitch his last inning of last night's game. He was doing a good job of keeping the ball down in the zone (and yielded a start-saving double play), had some good movement on his curveball. He should be able to put up some decent ERA/K numbers moving forward.

The bad: He pitches on a crappy team with a less than stellar bullpen so wins will be hard to come by. He has a history of command issues so his WHIP may be on the high side, and he may have a few blow-up starts. Also, Brad Peacock is tearing it up in AAA right now and already on the 40-man roster so Cosart's leash isn't infinitely long.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 11:58 AM

Is he going to be up the rest of the year? Just by looking at the box score from last night it looks like he pitched good.

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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:25 PM

View Postjeffcarroll23, on 29 July 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Is he going to be up the rest of the year? Just by looking at the box score from last night it looks like he pitched good.

5 BB's? Ya, okay.
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Posted 29 July 2013 - 12:48 PM

View Postbmay, on 29 July 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

View Postjeffcarroll23, on 29 July 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Is he going to be up the rest of the year? Just by looking at the box score from last night it looks like he pitched good.

5 BB's? Ya, okay.

And 1 K. Up to 7 Ks and 11 walks in 21 innings.  That <1 ERA is smoke and mirrors, and he's about to get blown up when a team stops letting him off the hook.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 12:59 PM

Anyone starting him against the red sox after that offensive outburst last night?
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 01:29 PM

12 BBs, 11 Ks in 28 innings. I wouldn't start him against any team, let alone the Red Sox.
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