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ESPN's Midseason Top 250 Keeper Ranks, Thoughts?


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#1 Colonel Forbin

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

So the ESPN Midseason Keeper Ranks are out. What do you all think? Who is too high? Who is too low?

http://espn.go.com/f...keeper-rankings

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:20 PM

First thing i noticed. Allen Craig is disgustingly low
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

I thought the same thing (as I am Craig owner). What about Homer Bailey being sandwiched between Sale and Moore (ahead of him) and Latos, J. Fernandez, and Cain behind him. I am missing something with Bailey that Im not seeing haha?

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM

I thought the same thing (as I am Craig owner). What about Homer Bailey being sandwiched between Sale and Moore (ahead of him) and Latos, J. Fernandez, and Cain behind him. I am missing something with Bailey that Im not seeing haha?

theres absolutely no excuse for that either. Im taking J fernandez Latos and even cain above Bailey some of these rankings are just ridiculous. still cant get over Craig at 59 lol

Edited by NyMetsfan5, 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM

I have 5 in the top 29!

It's a list. These are hard anyway. Trying to include age makes it extremely difficult.
Lawrie, Rizzo, Hosmer have all lost some luster.

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#6 Colonel Forbin

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

I also thought Wil Myers is pretty high at 34 when he has other rookies like Puig and Profar at 48 and 85 respectively.

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

just noticed WTF Pedro Alvarez at almost the top 30 damn man
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:34 PM

Gio Gonzalez over Chris Sale no thank you
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

just noticed WTF Pedro Alvarez at almost the top 30 damn man

Ya he has taken a HUGE jump (#124 before the season)

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

Gio Gonzalez over Chris Sale no thank you

As a Nats fan it pains me to say I completely agree.

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

No Bruxton. I realize he is probably looking at late 2014 or 2015 but 67% of his rankings are based on 2015 and beyond.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

No Buxton is a little surprising. He must think he wont get the call till at least Mid 2014

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

Jose Reyes at 64 when he should be around where Alvarez is
Yadier Molina continues to be grossly underrated at the thinnest position in the game at 65
Jose Fernandez at 67 is a joke especially because they allegedly take the future into account
Zach Wheeler is too low but thats just because im a mets fan lol
Nick Franklin should be a bit higher
Personally id take machado over Mccutchen but thats just personal opinion
Prince is too high in my opinion
For a very inconsistent streaky player Bruce should be out of the top 25
Also agreed Wil Myers is a bit too high
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:41 PM

Im about to make my own rankings so we can compare them to ESPN ill be on later tonight to present it. excited to see what you guys think of mine
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:42 PM

Well first they not 'Espns'. They are Cockcrofts. While he usually does a steady job, these and his all 2017 team seemed off his mark. Maybe he's trying to be 'bold' or what not. But overall these are a bit more reactionary than the norm for Cockcroft.

In any case, I appreciate his work and these are good for discussion.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao
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#17 Colonel Forbin

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:46 PM

Well first they not 'Espns'. They are Cockcrofts. While he usually does a steady job, these and his all 2017 team seemed off his mark. Maybe he's trying to be 'bold' or what not. But overall these are a bit more reactionary than the norm for Cockcroft.

In any case, I appreciate his work and these are good for discussion.

Excuse me, I should have put Tristan Cockcroft instead of ESPN. Either way he was the one chosen by ESPN for the job.

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:46 PM

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao

Do it, I'd like to see it

12 Team, 8 Keeper, (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS - IP, W, CG, SV, K ERA, WHIP, QS)

 

C - Realmuto

1B - Ortiz

2B - Kipnis

3B - Machado (SS)

SS - Correa

IF - Rendon (2B, 3B)

LF - A. Gordon

CF - McCutchen

RF - Bautista

OF - Harper (CF, RF)

Util - C. Carter (1B)

BN - C. Seager (SS)

BN - B. Hamilton (CF)

BN - D. Gordon (2B)

 

SP - Sale, T. Walker, Kennedy, G. Gonzalez, Latos, Fiers, Hill

RP - Chapman, Casilla, Betances

DL - Darvish, McCullers, Boxberger


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao

Do it, I'd like to see it

ok sounds good. ill be posting it later tonight dw ill make sure our boy Allen Craig gets the spot he deserves lol

Edited by NyMetsfan5, 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM.

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Noah Syndergaard NL Cy Young 2016. Act like you already know
He's going to shock a ton of people this year so be ready for it

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

Max and Yu should be way higher.. ESPN SUCKS as USUAL
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