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ESPN's Midseason Top 250 Keeper Ranks, Thoughts?Who is Too High? Too Low?


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#1 Colonel Forbin

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:19 PM

So the ESPN Midseason Keeper Ranks are out. What do you all think? Who is too high? Who is too low?

http://espn.go.com/f...keeper-rankings
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C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:20 PM

First thing i noticed. Allen Craig is disgustingly low
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:29 PM

I thought the same thing (as I am Craig owner). What about Homer Bailey being sandwiched between Sale and Moore (ahead of him) and Latos, J. Fernandez, and Cain behind him. I am missing something with Bailey that Im not seeing haha?
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM

View PostColonel Forbin, on 17 July 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

I thought the same thing (as I am Craig owner). What about Homer Bailey being sandwiched between Sale and Moore (ahead of him) and Latos, J. Fernandez, and Cain behind him. I am missing something with Bailey that Im not seeing haha?
theres absolutely no excuse for that either. Im taking  J fernandez Latos and even cain above Bailey   some of these rankings are just ridiculous. still cant get over Craig at 59 lol

Edited by NyMetsfan5, 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:31 PM

I have 5 in the top 29!

It's a list. These are hard anyway. Trying to include age makes it extremely difficult.
Lawrie, Rizzo, Hosmer have all lost some luster.
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Keep up to 7 (Lose round per keeper):

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#6 Colonel Forbin

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:32 PM

I also thought Wil Myers is pretty high at 34 when he has other rookies like Puig and Profar at 48 and 85 respectively.
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:33 PM

just noticed WTF  Pedro Alvarez at almost the top 30  damn man
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:34 PM

Gio Gonzalez over Chris Sale no thank you
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NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

just noticed WTF  Pedro Alvarez at almost the top 30  damn man
Ya he has taken a HUGE jump (#124 before the season)
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

Gio Gonzalez over Chris Sale no thank you
As a Nats fan it pains me to say I completely agree.
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:35 PM

No Bruxton.  I realize he is probably looking at late 2014 or 2015 but 67% of his rankings are based on 2015 and beyond.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:36 PM

No Buxton is a little surprising. He must think he wont get the call till at least Mid 2014
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:38 PM

Jose Reyes at 64 when he should be around where Alvarez is
Yadier Molina continues to be grossly underrated at the thinnest position in the game at 65
Jose Fernandez at 67 is a joke especially because they allegedly take the future into account
Zach Wheeler is too low but thats just because im a mets fan lol
Nick Franklin should be a bit higher
Personally id take machado over Mccutchen but thats just personal opinion
Prince is too high in my opinion
For a very inconsistent streaky player Bruce should be out of the top 25
Also agreed Wil Myers is a bit too high
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:41 PM

Im about to make my own rankings so we can compare them to ESPN  ill be on later tonight to present it. excited to see what you guys think of mine
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NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:42 PM

Well first they not 'Espns'. They are Cockcrofts. While he usually does a steady job, these and his all 2017 team seemed off his mark. Maybe he's trying to be 'bold' or what not. But overall these are a bit more reactionary than the norm for Cockcroft.

In any case, I appreciate his work and these are good for discussion.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:43 PM

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:46 PM

View Posttucker26, on 17 July 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

Well first they not 'Espns'. They are Cockcrofts. While he usually does a steady job, these and his all 2017 team seemed off his mark. Maybe he's trying to be 'bold' or what not. But overall these are a bit more reactionary than the norm for Cockcroft.

In any case, I appreciate his work and these are good for discussion.
Excuse me, I should have put Tristan Cockcroft instead of ESPN. Either way he was the one chosen by ESPN for the job.
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:46 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao
Do it, I'd like to see it
14 Team H2H - 8x8 (R, H, HR, RBI, SB, TB, AVG, OPS, IP, W, CG, SV, K, ERA, WHIP QS)
Keep 7 Players and 1 Prospect

C - Lucroy (C, 1B)
1B - Hosmer
2B - Kipnis
3B - Wright
SS - Bogaerts (3B, SS)
IF - Castellanos (OF, 3B)
OF -McCutchen, Harper, Heyward, Yelich
UTIL - Fowler
BN - G. Polanco
DL - Machado (3B), Profar (2B, 3B, SS)
NA - Buxton

SP - Teheran, Salazar, Porcello, Skaggs, Masterson
RP - Axford,K-Rod, Valverde, Santos, Broxton
BN - Straily, Smyly, Colon, Mejia (Streaming)
DL - Josh Johnson

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

View PostColonel Forbin, on 17 July 2013 - 01:46 PM, said:

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

would anyone bother to take my rankings in account or is this gona be a waste of time lmao
Do it, I'd like to see it
ok sounds good. ill be posting it later tonight   dw ill make sure our boy Allen Craig gets the spot he deserves lol

Edited by NyMetsfan5, 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM.

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"What do we need anybody for? We have Victor Cruz.”
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 01:47 PM

Max and Yu should be way higher.. ESPN SUCKS as USUAL
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C-Salvador Perez
1B - Albert Puljos
2B - Ryan Flaherty, Nick Franklin ( Minors)
SS - JJ Hardy
3B - Evan Longoria
OF - Kole Calhoun, Adam Eaton, Nori Aoki, Chris Carter, Colby Rasmus
UT - Mark Teixiera
DH - Edwin Encarnacion

SP - Weaver, Moore(DL), Kuroda, Erasmo Ramirez, Jared Cosart, Miguel Gonzalez, Tanner Scheppers, Drew Hutchinson, Erik Bedard, Ricky Nolasco
RP - Santos,Mujica, Shawn Kelley.




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