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Craig's Aka Nymetsfan5 Keeper rankingsLETS DO THIS


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#1 NyMetsfan5

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:31 PM

Using the same formula as Espns keeper rankings listed below
This is the player valuation formula I used:
• 2013 second-half performance: 10 percent.
• 2014 performance: 22.5 percent.
• 2015 performance: 22.5 percent.
• 2016 performance: 22.5 percent.
• 2017 performance and beyond: 22.5 percent.(credit to Espn and Tristan for formula)
so here we go :)
1.Matt Harvey
2.Matt Harvey
3.Matt Harvey
no but in all seriousness here it is
1.Mike Trout
2.Miguel Cabrera
3.Carlos Gonzalez
4.Giancarlo Stanton
5.Bryce Harper
6.Andrew Mccutchen
7.Manny Machado
8. Paul GoldSchmidt
9.Chris Davis
10.Ryan Braun
11.Buster Posey
12.Robinson Cano
13.Troy Tulowitzki
14.Joey Votto
15.Matt Harvey(i know people will gripe at this but this is based on my opinion that he will be the number 1 sp for years to come)
16.Adam jones
17.Clayton Kershaw
18.Hanley Ramirez
19.Prince Fielder
20.King Felix
21.Jason Kipnis
22.Evan Longoria
23.Jose Reyes
24.Carlos Gomez
25.David Wright
26.Stephen Strasburg
27.Justin Upton
28.Jean Segura
29.Allen Craig
30.Jay Bruce
31.Matt Kemp
32.Madison Bumgarner
33.Yu Darvish
34.Yasiel Puig
35.Adam Wainwright
36. Jose Bautista
37.Yadier Molina
38.Dustin Pedrioa
39.Justin Verlander
40.Freddie Freeman
41.Jose Fernandez
42.Edwin Encarnacion
43.Max Scherezer
44.Yoenis Cespedes
45.Wil Myers
46.Domonic Brown
47.David Price
48.Carlos Santana
49.Ian Desmond
50.Anthony Rizzo
51.Adrian Beltre
52.Chris Sale
53.Jordan Zimmerman
54.Starling Marte
55.Jorge Soler
56.Austin Jackson
57.Gio Gonzalez
58.Desmond Jennings
59.Dexter Fowler
60.Mat Latos
61.Josh Donaldson
62.Ryan Zimmerman
63.Matt Moore
64.Jason Heyward
65.Joe Mauer
66.Adrian Gonzalez
67.Oscar Taveras
68.Shin-soo Choo
69.Shelby Miller
70.Billy Butler
71.Jurickson profar
72.Alex Gordon
73.Patrick Corbin
74.Everth Cabrera
75.Nickmundo Franklin
76.Craig Kimbrel
77.Matt Cain
78.Matt Carpenter
79.Matt Adams
80.Jose Altuve
81.Ian Kinsler
82.Albert Pujols
83.Cliff Lee
84.Arodlis Chapman
85.Starlin Castro
86.Chase Hedley
87.Tony Cingrani
88.Gerrit Cole
89.Anthony Rendon
90.Chase Headley
91.Kyle Seager
92.Oswaldo Arcia
93.Asdrubal Cabrera
94.Jedd Gyorko
95. Danny Salazar
96.Johnny Cueto
97.Greg Holland
98.Zach Wheeler
99.Jason Castro(seriuosly underrated catcher may i add)
100.Miguel Sano

Honorable mentions who were on bubble- Byron Buxton (going to be a terrific player and who knows maybe in 5 years well have him in the top 3 of our keeper rankings but until then we wait) Xander Boegarts,Christian Yelich and all the other excellent prospects that didnt make it (didnt want to put too many young guys in the top 100 but if i did 200 they would be in there for sure)   Yes i know i am nuts to believe Soler should be that high but yea i believe

So heres my top 100 (not going to 250 because this took me 3 hours as it is) and i tried to work hard on it for you guys because i value your opinions. Please leave any feedback (positive or negative) and any thoughts you have on the list. I know i got some questionable ones but hey who doesnt   its all based on opinion anyway so take it as it is. Ps ive never done this sort of ranking thing before and trust me guys it is tough to do and find places to put players, so i will forever refrain from calling another guys rankings bad because it is very tough. ok im done talking now  enjoy!!
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NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:34 PM

86.Chase Hedley

Nope

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:36 PM

View PostStickfig13, on 17 July 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

86.Chase Hedley

Nope
hahah you think he shouldnt be on this list im assuming?
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:40 PM

Please give provide your ROS rankings as well. Thanks.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:41 PM

View Postfoeplay, on 17 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Please give provide your ROS rankings as well. Thanks.
so you want another top 100 list just for rest of season? ill do it   is that what you meant though?
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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#6 NoClownQuestionsBro

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:42 PM

I expected 100 Mets. I was wrong.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:43 PM

View PostNoClownQuestionsBro, on 17 July 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

I expected 100 Mets. I was wrong.
lmao sorry to disappoint
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

View Postfoeplay, on 17 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Please give provide your ROS rankings as well. Thanks.
so you want another top 100 list just for rest of season? ill do it   is that what you meant though?

Yup, ESPN gives both keeper and ROS rankings! I will be using your rankings exclusively. TIA

#9 Stickfig13

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 04:54 PM

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:

View PostStickfig13, on 17 July 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

86.Chase Hedley

Nope
hahah you think he shouldnt be on this list im assuming?

Nope.

I also think you have MadBum low and Justin Upton way high

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:07 PM

Good list.

Soler over Taveras though?  I think Taveras needs to be way, way higher.
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C  Doug Gwosdz, Mackey Sasser
1B  Razor Shines
2B  Arquimedez Pozo
3B  Scat Metha, Jim Walewander
SS  Steve Jeltz
OF  Johnny Dickshot, Rusty Kuntz, Bristol Robotham Lord, Johnny Wockenfuss, Hiram Bocachica
UT  Drungo Hazewood, Coot Veal

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RP  Ed Head, Boots Poffenberger, Firpo Marberry, Yorman Bazardo, Fu-Te Ni

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:10 PM

Moved over to the Baseball Rankings Forum for you.  Good luck.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:12 PM

Ya Great List - It's clear you put a lot of time into this.  Where would you rank Kris Bryant?  Also, one of my favorite guys is Cingrani, so he would be in my top 50.  I also like Duffy, but I understand not putting him in the top 100.  I like hard throwing lefties in general, because if they find control they can be unhittable, like Sale.  I may have included Carlos Martinez as well, I think he is going to be a star.  Thanks for making the list, great job.

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:15 PM

Also, why are you so high on Soler?  Is it just a gut feeling or are you basing it on Puig's success, Soler's young age, or because you've seen him in person?  Or some other reasons?

Edited by David Light, 17 July 2013 - 05:16 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:24 PM

View Postfoeplay, on 17 July 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:

View PostNyMetsfan5, on 17 July 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

View Postfoeplay, on 17 July 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

Please give provide your ROS rankings as well. Thanks.
so you want another top 100 list just for rest of season? ill do it   is that what you meant though?

Yup, ESPN gives both keeper and ROS rankings! I will be using your rankings exclusively. TIA
ok ill get on that by tonight it will be in
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:26 PM

View Postcompsella, on 17 July 2013 - 05:07 PM, said:

Good list.

Soler over Taveras though?  I think Taveras needs to be way, way higher.
thats just my general feeling on Soler and i love that Cuban baseball mold and ive done a far amount of research on Soler. Although i do admit i should have moved around a few players to get Taveras into the early 50s late 40's possibly, hes going to be special but i just like Soler more
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"What do we need anybody for? We have Victor Cruz.”
-Coach Tom Coughlin

NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

President of Matt Harvey Fan club(get well soon) and now an official MANBEARPUIG member   Tee shirts coming soon

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostDavid Light, on 17 July 2013 - 05:15 PM, said:

Also, why are you so high on Soler?  Is it just a gut feeling or are you basing it on Puig's success, Soler's young age, or because you've seen him in person?  Or some other reasons?
As i said in the last post   love that cuban baseball player mold and have done a lot of research on him as well and everything points to stud in that outfield. If i had to rank Kris bryant hed be in the mid 100's for me   say around 120-130   However im more of a George Springer fan myself
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NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:36 PM

Ya - I wish this wasn't moved out of the FB Forum.  It would be great for more discussion.  Anyways, I probably would have rated C.Davis a little lower.  I don't know if he is just a flash in the pan or not.  I also thought u underrated Sale and price a bit.  Other than that, I thought your rankings were right on.
      So just for clarification, if you were making a top 5 prospect list you would have soler in there?

Edited by David Light, 17 July 2013 - 09:37 PM.


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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:39 PM

View PostDavid Light, on 17 July 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

Ya - I wish this wasn't moved out of the FB Forum.  It would be great for more discussion.  Anyways, I probably would have rated C.Davis a little lower.  I don't know if he is just a flash in the pan or not.  I also thought u underrated Sale and price a bit.  Other than that, I thought your rankings were right on.
  So just for clarification, if you were making a top 5 prospect list you would have soler in there?
Yes Soler would be at 3 for me
1.Buxton
2.Boegarts
3.Soler
4.Taveras
5.Sano
thats my personal list
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-Coach Tom Coughlin

NFL Favorite Players; Victor Cruz and Cj Spiller
NBA favorite players: Carmelo Anthony(of course) and Damian Lillard (better than Kyrie when its all said and done), Giannis Antetokounmpo aka the Greek Freak

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Posted 17 July 2013 - 09:51 PM

I'll try to remember to comment more tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.

Could cherry pick here and there, but lists look easy till you try to put one together.  I'd have two closers in the top 100, kimbrel and chapman and that's it.
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Posted 17 July 2013 - 10:01 PM

Chase headley is on there twice
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