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Quinton Patton 2013 Season OutlookSF 49ers


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#41 sfdevil

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:42 PM

lol even though I love kaep the hype about his arm is getting ridiculous.
even more ridiculous is people thinking he will be gunning out there, unless defense falls apart like it did in the offs

but, let these people live in the their own world I guess :lol:

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?
The last time they had a QB with an arm like Kap..

So that's why the WR2 put up such HUGE numbers last season in the playoffs right? I guess I missed those stats on the score sheet.

But go ahead and compare this to the days when they had Rice and Owens. Two of the best WR's of their generation.
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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:50 PM

Why was this guy drafted so late? Checking into, everything checked out...he has had alot of injuries threw out his career in Lousiana Tech, Impressive didn't know this guy was born where I live now, Tennessee.

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:06 PM

View Postkeep it ONE hunnid, on 28 August 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

Why was this guy drafted so late? Checking into, everything checked out...he has had alot of injuries threw out his career in Lousiana Tech, Impressive didn't know this guy was born where I live now, Tennessee.

Small school, not fast, gimmick college O, only 6 225 reps at combine so might struggle in bump coverage

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:15 PM

I dropped Crabtree and picked him up in a dynasty league

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 11:24 PM

Let's see
How he looks tonight

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 10:20 AM

This is crazy Id never think that a guy from La Vergne Tennessee would make it to NFL. This place is so country lol.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostDez Bryants Mama, on 28 August 2013 - 11:24 PM, said:

Let's see
How he looks tonight

Can't wait

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:05 PM

Is he confirmed as the WR2 or is that just speculation?
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:08 PM

As of right now Marlon Moore is the #2 (or 3 if you count Davis) but Moore couldn't crack the starting roster of the Dolphins so I'm on the fence about him.  Patton has been running routes and catching balls one handed during the preseason due to his index finger injury which is why we haven't seen him in a game up until last week.

After doing extensive research on Patton, I believe he is the future of the organization.  A leader, a hard worker, good footwork, knows how to get open and especially when the QB is scrambling, decent size and good hands.  What more could you ask for?  Patton definitely carries more value in keepers than redrafts.

Edited by scienergy, 29 August 2013 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:12 PM


View PostRonPaulRonPaulRonPaul, on 29 August 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is he confirmed as the WR2 or is that just speculation?

definitely not confirmed. however, he's currently trying to beat out Kyle Williams and Moore, a guy the Niners signed off the street in March.

However, when trying to read the tea leaves known as Harbaugh you can really see he likes this kid. Says he's a "great player" after his first preseason game? After a broken pinky limited him to just route running for the past month? Me thinks that Harbaugh is running this kid's koolaid stand.

"One dollar, one dollar. Step right up and get your Patton punch. It's good to the last drop, which happened in college. One dollar!"

Edited by bbythepier, 29 August 2013 - 01:15 PM.


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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:21 PM

View Postjb_power, on 28 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?

Jerry Rice / John Taylor

Jerry Rice / Terrel Owens

Terrel Owens / J.J. Stokes (a bit of a stretch)

I think the poster was referring to the current regime.

This is a run-heavy offense.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:38 PM

View Postbs61014, on 29 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

View Postjb_power, on 28 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?

Jerry Rice / John Taylor
Jerry Rice / Terrel Owens
Terrel Owens / J.J. Stokes (a bit of a stretch)

I think the poster was referring to the current regime.
This is a run-heavy offense.

FTR, i am 100% in agreement that the Niners are not the Patriots in terms of scheme. Just 2 caveats from my chair:

1) When Kap took over, the Niners played some dud teams. STL, @STL, ARZ, etc But when the Niners play tougher teams, they might not have the luxury to get in a slogfest (ex. @NO & @NE last year)
2) While Boldin is the WR1 in name until Crabtree gets back, I'm not really sold he's a WR1 any longer. So while some may suggest Patton's ceiling for the first 12 weeks is WR2, I'm not so sure. In the back of my mind, this has the potential to be a Victor Cruz type deal.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:42 PM

View Postbbythepier, on 29 August 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

View PostRonPaulRonPaulRonPaul, on 29 August 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is he confirmed as the WR2 or is that just speculation?

definitely not confirmed. however, he's currently trying to beat out Kyle Williams and Moore, a guy the Niners signed off the street in March.

However, when trying to read the tea leaves known as Harbaugh you can really see he likes this kid. Says he's a "great player" after his first preseason game? After a broken pinky limited him to just route running for the past month? Me thinks that Harbaugh is running this kid's koolaid stand.

"One dollar, one dollar. Step right up and get your Patton punch. It's good to the last drop, which happened in college. One dollar!"

You're forgetting Baldwin also has prototypical size as disappointing as he's been with the Chiefs

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:45 PM

View Postbbythepier, on 29 August 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

View PostRonPaulRonPaulRonPaul, on 29 August 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is he confirmed as the WR2 or is that just speculation?

definitely not confirmed. however, he's currently trying to beat out Kyle Williams and Moore, a guy the Niners signed off the street in March.

However, when trying to read the tea leaves known as Harbaugh you can really see he likes this kid. Says he's a "great player" after his first preseason game? After a broken pinky limited him to just route running for the past month? Me thinks that Harbaugh is running this kid's koolaid stand.

"One dollar, one dollar. Step right up and get your Patton punch. It's good to the last drop, which happened in college. One dollar!"

I remember when Bill Walsh was talking to rep[orters years ago about this kid from Mississippi Valley State, and how he liked the kid and how special he thought the kid could be. The rest is history. Just brings back memories.
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Posted 29 August 2013 - 01:56 PM

View Postbdams19, on 29 August 2013 - 01:42 PM, said:

View Postbbythepier, on 29 August 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

View PostRonPaulRonPaulRonPaul, on 29 August 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is he confirmed as the WR2 or is that just speculation?

definitely not confirmed. however, he's currently trying to beat out Kyle Williams and Moore, a guy the Niners signed off the street in March.

However, when trying to read the tea leaves known as Harbaugh you can really see he likes this kid. Says he's a "great player" after his first preseason game? After a broken pinky limited him to just route running for the past month? Me thinks that Harbaugh is running this kid's koolaid stand.

"One dollar, one dollar. Step right up and get your Patton punch. It's good to the last drop, which happened in college. One dollar!"

You're forgetting Baldwin also has prototypical size as disappointing as he's been with the Chiefs

Except Baldwin hasn't worked with Kap or the O before. Plus, the masses over at Niners Webzone aren't even sure he is one of the 5 WRs the Niners keep (debatable).
Locks: Boldin, Patton, Moore
Bubble: Kyle Williams, Baldwin, Austin Collie, Chad Hall

** I'm dead serious here. Fans on every messageboard in the nation are trying to guess their team's 53 players, and Baldwin is not on 50% of the guesses. We'll see next week.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:04 PM

View Postowenmills, on 28 August 2013 - 11:15 PM, said:

I dropped Crabtree and picked him up in a dynasty league

Be prepared for a ton of trade offers. After a move like that I'm sure your leaguemates are scouring your roster and will be looking to relieve you of any players of value.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?
The last time they had a QB with an arm like Kap..

So that's why the WR2 put up such HUGE numbers last season in the playoffs right? I guess I missed those stats on the score sheet.

But go ahead and compare this to the days when they had Rice and Owens. Two of the best WR's of their generation.
Hey you asked, I answered and answered accurately. The last time their WR2 was relevant was when they had Rice/Owens and a strong armed QB. Do you think that SF hates their WR2's or something? That they purposely dont use them? Because unless thats what your thinking I dont fully understand your point here. They havent had a great WR2 in some time.. why would they pour targets into their WR2 when they havent had a great one to rely on recently? If you were Kaepernick last year and you have Crabtree and a TE like Vernon Davis.. how often are your looking at your WR2 when its nobody even close to Crabtree or Vernon Davis? Plus Kap didnt have a whole offseason to prep as a starter and gain some chemistry with his wideouts like he does this year... i dont blame him for zeroing in on Crabs and VD last year. He knew where the talent was in the receiving game and thats where he went. Before him you had Alex Smith at the helm which was doing no favors for any WRs on this squad. Before Smith you had Jeff Garcia who had 2 very good seasons with the 49ers particularly in 2001, but his main wideout was T.O. and the WR2 was JJ Stokes... who didnt have a bad season with 60/600/7.. but its JJ Stokes were talking about not some great WR2 that they underused so I dont really see why SF and Kaepernick wouldnt give Patton targets if his talent dictates it.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 03:44 PM

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 29 August 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?
The last time they had a QB with an arm like Kap..

So that's why the WR2 put up such HUGE numbers last season in the playoffs right? I guess I missed those stats on the score sheet.

But go ahead and compare this to the days when they had Rice and Owens. Two of the best WR's of their generation.
Hey you asked, I answered and answered accurately. The last time their WR2 was relevant was when they had Rice/Owens and a strong armed QB. Do you think that SF hates their WR2's or something? That they purposely dont use them? Because unless thats what your thinking I dont fully understand your point here. They havent had a great WR2 in some time.. why would they pour targets into their WR2 when they havent had a great one to rely on recently? If you were Kaepernick last year and you have Crabtree and a TE like Vernon Davis.. how often are your looking at your WR2 when its nobody even close to Crabtree or Vernon Davis? Plus Kap didnt have a whole offseason to prep as a starter and gain some chemistry with his wideouts like he does this year... i dont blame him for zeroing in on Crabs and VD last year. He knew where the talent was in the receiving game and thats where he went. Before him you had Alex Smith at the helm which was doing no favors for any WRs on this squad. Before Smith you had Jeff Garcia who had 2 very good seasons with the 49ers particularly in 2001, but his main wideout was T.O. and the WR2 was JJ Stokes... who didnt have a bad season with 60/600/7.. but its JJ Stokes were talking about not some great WR2 that they underused so I dont really see why SF and Kaepernick wouldnt give Patton targets if his talent dictates it.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 06:29 PM

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 29 August 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 07:22 PM, said:

View PostBxBOMBERs28, on 28 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

View PostSine_cera, on 28 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

When was the last time a WR2 in San Fran was fantasy relevant?
The last time they had a QB with an arm like Kap..

So that's why the WR2 put up such HUGE numbers last season in the playoffs right? I guess I missed those stats on the score sheet.

But go ahead and compare this to the days when they had Rice and Owens. Two of the best WR's of their generation.
Hey you asked, I answered and answered accurately. The last time their WR2 was relevant was when they had Rice/Owens and a strong armed QB. Do you think that SF hates their WR2's or something? That they purposely dont use them? Because unless thats what your thinking I dont fully understand your point here. They havent had a great WR2 in some time.. why would they pour targets into their WR2 when they havent had a great one to rely on recently? If you were Kaepernick last year and you have Crabtree and a TE like Vernon Davis.. how often are your looking at your WR2 when its nobody even close to Crabtree or Vernon Davis? Plus Kap didnt have a whole offseason to prep as a starter and gain some chemistry with his wideouts like he does this year... i dont blame him for zeroing in on Crabs and VD last year. He knew where the talent was in the receiving game and thats where he went. Before him you had Alex Smith at the helm which was doing no favors for any WRs on this squad. Before Smith you had Jeff Garcia who had 2 very good seasons with the 49ers particularly in 2001, but his main wideout was T.O. and the WR2 was JJ Stokes... who didnt have a bad season with 60/600/7.. but its JJ Stokes were talking about not some great WR2 that they underused so I dont really see why SF and Kaepernick wouldnt give Patton targets if his talent dictates it.

Hmm, ok.

So last season they had nobody close to the level of Crabtree and Davis? Maybe.  But they did have Manningham and Moss last season. They might not be Pro Bowl WR's but they're not exactly scrubs either.

I'm here not to trash Patton. I like his talent. But to say that he's more talented than the WR2's that they had last season is ludicrous. Based on one single preseason game? Based on what Kaepernick said after the game? Go check the Niners message boards. They'll take a healthy Manningham over Patton every day of the week.

And if your argument is true that Kaep didn't throw to anyone else because they didn't have a WR2 who was on the same talent level as their WR1 and TE then that won't change this season either. Because Patton is NOT on the level of Boldin and Davis.

Again, I like the kid's talent but I see a lot of wishful thinking going on. Something you often see in players threads who are labeled sleepers. Because everyone wants to have that one lottery ticket.

Edited by Sine_cera, 29 August 2013 - 06:32 PM.

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